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Jul 7th, 2009 at 2:39pm
 
I've been listening to the Michael Jackson service (ok, I'm just too lazy to change channels) and I guess I was wrong all along about the boy...

I didn't realize he was solely responsible for the civil rights movement, but I'll swear that's what that last speaker just said. So I guess MLK and all that bunch that I thought I remembered was just my imagination and it was MJ all along... and I'm a big enough girl to admit when I'm wrong...

Guess it's true what they've been saying -- If you think you remember the 60's - you just weren't there!!!

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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 2:44pm
 
That's mighty big of ya, Barb.

At least we all know the truth about MJ now. I don't think I'd have made it another day...

By the way, why the hell are you wasting your time watching that crap?
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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 3:54pm
 
IMO, it's time to chuckle about the fact that a lot of black celebrities and media types tried to put as much distance as possible between the ever-increasingly-white-Michael-Jackson and themselves while he was alive.

Now that he's dead they want to own him.

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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 4:40pm
 
Isn't that the damned truth!  I subscribe to CNN news alerts for major headlines. You know, the things I'm concerned with for work reasons such as a hurricane threatening networks, bombing of location where I have networks, etc.

Imagine my disgust when the best they can come up with is celebrity news. I sure hope that's because there's nothing else bad going on.
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 4:41pm
 
I guess if there ever was a case where some loon is worth more dead than alive; this is it. I'm hoping that by next year there will be only a dozen or so specials per day on MJ.


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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 4:52pm
 
QnHeartMM wrote on Jul 7th, 2009 at 4:40pm:
I sure hope that's because there's nothing else bad going on.

You mean like hand-to-hand combat in the streets of China, retribution by the mullahs for the recent uprising in Iran, US troops chasing down terrorists in Afghanistan, or a showdown between democracy and a communist thug dictator (who's taking temporary refuge in Washington D.C. - I know, what's up with that?) in Honduras?

Nah, there's nothing else significant going on in the world. Drink a Pepsi. Watch the memorial. Life is good.

(Not directed at you, Christy. I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.)
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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 4:54pm
 
I'm with you Brew! I just cannot believe what the media thinks is NEWS anymore. Sigh.
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Reply #7 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 5:07pm
 
With the exception of the occasional UFC fight or Cops (I LOVE Cops), I am proud to say I havent watched TV in a few years now. 

It's absolutely brainless.  I'd rather do laundry than watch TV.
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Reply #8 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 5:10pm
 
BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Jul 7th, 2009 at 5:07pm:
 I'd rather do laundry than watch TV.


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Reply #9 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 5:14pm
 
The important issue is that there are dozens and dozens of millions of sheeple in this country who "know" that anything presented to them on TV is the truth. And the sin of the media isn't always in what they present - it's sometimes in what they don't present.

It's enough to make you want to spit.
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Reply #10 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 5:51pm
 
It sure is like all that Lady Diana crap that happened this side of the pond a few years back. I never seen so much mass hysteria like it. I was in London during that time and I seen grown men falling to the ground crying, complete and utter madness...!

Now MJ hysteria, don't get me wrong maybe the guy didn't do what they accused him off, but if it were me or you accused of these things you would go to every court in the land to redeem your good name and not settle out of court and leave seeds of doubt in the public arena.

I don't know, I'm still very suspicious. All these celebs queuing  up to pay homage to him now he's dead is a bit sickening.
He's probably not even dead, they didn't name Wacko Jacko for nothing.


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Reply #11 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 6:45pm
 
Brew,

Please allow me to add to the list of things that slid under the rug while nobody was looking during all the MJ hysteria...  like scrapping a third of our nuclear stockpile and that includes future pro-drafts for technology upgrades...  

And relearning revisionist history on who really put the pressure on the USSR to win the Cold War...  

Foolish us... it was Poland and Czechoslovakia now Bos Nia and Hurt Zo Go Veena... that brought the Ruskies to their knees according to the Apologist in Chief who just got faked out of his jockstrap by a former head of the KGB as he conned the Marxist trained community organizer out of BMD sites in Poland...  That was easy and predictable...

Then there was Porkulus III POS legislation now cooking in the politburo and on it's way for another No-Read passage by the social progressives in the politburo.

Take care... and BOHICA

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Reply #12 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 8:24pm
 
It's all sad.

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Reply #13 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 10:43pm
 
Say what you will but there are no flies on Obama....oops...there was one that he zapped. I'm convinced that he left for Moscow in an effort to get as far from Michael mania as possible.

Bourst with Putin would be pleasurable in comparison.

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Charlie wrote on Jul 7th, 2009 at 10:43pm:
Say what you will but there are no flies on Obama....oops...there was one that he zapped. I'm convinced that he left for Moscow in an effort to get as far from Michael mania as possible.

Bourst with Putin would be pleasurable in comparison.

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I want to make sure I'm understanding you, Charlie - did you mean borscht (beet soup)?
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Reply #15 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 11:38pm
 
Better spelling. Thanks. I even looked it up before posting if you can believe it....

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Reply #16 - Jul 7th, 2009 at 11:45pm
 
I watched MJ funneral until the speaker got up and started saying he was resplonsible for the civil rights movement, black singers, black commedians, and of course he was solely responsible for Obama getting elected into office lets not forget.  It was then I shut the internet off and said enough of this stuff.
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Reply #17 - Jul 8th, 2009 at 3:15am
 
who is micheal jackson,

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Reply #18 - Jul 8th, 2009 at 5:48am
 
I might have my history (excplistitly the USA) history wrong,
But was it not Dr. Martin Luther King that paved the way for
African Americans to where we stand today.......
Was it not The Civil Rights Movement (1954 to 1968) that was directed at abolishing racial discrimination against African Americans, putting pressure on President John F. Kennedy and then Lyndon B. Johnson. subsequently passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and later the Voting Rights Act (1965).......

MJ was born in 1958....

With the outmost respect for the phenomena MJ his musical legacy.... his charity work (I did know he did charity work, but didn’t know to what extent..... never to late to learn.... and respect!)
But to rewrite History and legacy of some grate individuals.... by a gentleman by the name of Reverend Al Sharpton (don’t know exactly who he is, still need to research it),
and tribute almost all the success of the integration of African American in the American
society to MJ is just simply outrages……
Yes he did have a grate impact.... yes he did have (in his way) brought religions and people to rise above discrimination and race....
But No he did not make Mr. Barak Obama the USA president..... he did not almost exclusively bring equality and human rights to the African Americans......

that is what I presived, grasped from Reverend Al Sharpton…… and that is simply wrong………


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Reply #19 - Jul 8th, 2009 at 10:07am
 
Michael Jackson doesn't compare to Martin Luther King. I'm not sure if anyone really put him on that level - I haven't watched all these speeches.  Michael Jackson was closer to Jackie Robinson. He did cross some color barriers in music.  Jackson was young when the civil rights laws were passed, but those laws didn't end all segregation - in particular, mainstream channels were still for white people. MTV (Music Television) started around 1980, but did not play much music by people with black skin until 1983, when it played Thriller by MJ... and the popularity of that video changed the landscape at MTV, and at radio stations around the country.  He should be recognized as having a certain role in the history of bringing people together, but it should be a fair discussion of what he really did.

Was flipping channels the other day, and it seems the media whoring is universal - from MSNBC to Fox, including all the less partisan channels between them. We need to repeal the law that requires TV news to behave in this way.   Wink  

The newspapers are much more sensible - a few articles on MJ, but no going overboard for them.
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Reply #20 - Jul 8th, 2009 at 10:17am
 
Michael - you're exactly right about this rewriting of history - Al Sharpton is a nut case and a half who likes to hear himself talk. He doesn't ever bother with "facts" - just talks and talks and talks.....

I've seen Presidents buried with less fanfare than MJ. And most of THEM actually deserved the praise they got.

Oh well, surely they'll find something else to talk about by next week... Maybe?

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Reply #21 - Jul 8th, 2009 at 3:56pm
 
We're in a lot of trouble, Michael:

NY Times column excerpt:

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Even on mute, the tribute mattered: as the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales, showed in 1997, communal sorrow is moving, public frenzy is alarming, but the two together make for irresistible television. In a culture that considers Madonna’s divorce major news and breaks away from war and summitry to watch live police car chases, the arrival of the coffin on stage, covered in red blossoms, was the ultimate rubberneck moment.

Some network anchors seemed a bit mortified by their own unstinting and reverential coverage. Brian Williams of NBC, who sat on a special platform outside the Staples Center, told his colleague Lester Holt that the public had a way of deciding for itself what matters, “despite, at some times, the news media’s better wishes.” He added ruefully, “And this is an event because it is.”

But there was another, less obvious allure to the incessant, insatiable coverage. With so many hours to fill, television anchors and commentators give voice — literally and loudly — to the kinds of private, contradictory thoughts that so often dart through guests’ minds at a funeral. Flashes of sorrow and reminiscence collide with nosy curiosity about the will, the debts, custody battles, family entanglements and even the extravagant cost of the ceremony.

In the hours leading up to the funeral, the stars of Fox News debated whether deficit-ridden California should be burdened with the cost of security. They also worried about whether Mr. Jackson’s children should be raised by his mother, Katherine, since, as one Fox commentator put it, “Grandma Jackson watched her own children being abused at the hand of her husband.”

By the way Michael.....be glad you don't know too much about Al Sharpton. He fit right in with this crowd..... Shocked

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