The OUCH convention is history..... and as it seems OUCH is still out there
to continue its mission...........

As I can not use the OUCH boards to post this I take the liberty of posting
this on CH.com..... with the hope that I am not ignored......

I, a member of OUCH, that have not been present at the convention, for what ever
reason, would like to know, what came out of the convention, be it in terms of OUCH as
an organization.... and the short / long term duties and mission......
Many have posted prior to the convention, with some wonderful ideas, and pledged
a commitment to the organization, to help and do with in OUCH and for OUCH.......

I (and I believe some more) would like to know....... and the organization has a responsibility to report......
I have looked on OUCH website..... and could not see any communiqué.... or a notice that
with in a given time a report and minutes of the meetings will be posted......

I know this is an un orthodox venue....  but I would like to do it in the open and publicly, not using e-mail or other channels of communication-that are not public and open.....
I would like to be able to see an open and constructive (on going) discussion, with respect
as we had it before the convention....... it gave me a feeling of involvement!

As I can not post on OUCH my request, I use this board for my inquiry.....

Michael

I follow you on this thread Michael

Svenn

I think it is important to say that no major decisions were made at the convention except that the direction of OUCh seems to be to reorganize efforts and redefine the focus.  The BOD will be taking all of the suggestions and discussions and acting on them but that will take some time. 

I think most of us at the convention felt good about the meetings.  I hope that those who have passion for the cause and a little bit of time (even a very little bit) will find a way to get involved in OUCH.  While the BOD will be guiding the ship, it is the people who volunteer time and effort that can make OUCH strong and effective. 

I think 1 other thing was very clear to me.  The current BOD members at the convention are dedicated to making OUCH the best it can be.  They are dedicated and intelligent and have a lot of input now to work with.

I look forward to finding out (along with you) exactly what will happen with OUCH next.

Can we get some laundry done first?

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ROFLMAO!

Michael - It would have been thoughtful if you had given us a chance to get home from the convention before demanding a report.  As Convention Chair I had planned from the beginning to give a report, knowing that few had been posted in the past.  BoD members will attest that my reports are on time or early.  The 14 days you gave would be much too long in my books. 

The drafts has been written from the notes taken and is being proof read for the second time as you read this.  It will be posted in the couple of days on ouch-us.org.  I will have to wait until it has completed reviews and I don’t have full control on that.  I do hope you can wait just a little longer.  OH – Don’t think that your post had any influence into the reports being written or posted, or the speed of posting them – it really didn’t.

The reports will be posted on the Business Board on ouch-us.org.  For those that have been having difficulties, a reminder or two:
1)      You have to register/log-in to get into the ‘Member Area’ and register/log-in* again to get on to the ‘Business Board’.  (It was that way on the old website as well.) (*Could be the same username/password or different – it is/was your choice.)
2)      If you have problems there is a link on the lower left column of the Home Page for ‘username/password maintenance’.  There is also a link to ‘contact the webmaster’.  Mike will help get your sign-in straightened out.

I will post here when the reports are up on OUCH.

Jim Welch
Treasurer
Convention Chair

Jim.....

I do not demand....  I ask!!! (Semantics)

No need for sarcasm....  arrogance.... or boastful  banter...

If you (or OUCH BoD) have a problem with me asking for a report or to pose a question to the OUCH BoD,
then you (or the OUCH BoD) can communicate it as it was intended, in a respectful way!

Please let me  know if I ask for to much.......

I look forward to your report.  I'm told a lot transpired over two days of meetings.


Michael

Sounded like a demand to a LOT of us here.

(Because our names are Different, Jim is my husband just so you all know)

My husband Jim did an outstanding job at the convention.   He was professional (as always)and  his reports will be coming soon.

Those that would be demanding as well as threatening cristism..well, I have this to say to you:

We need BoD members.  We also need someone to run the newsletter, education committee and Media. We already have a lot of folks willing and able to take on the web-site.  We also have someone to take on the OUCH store.(You guys rock!!!!!!)


Those of you who stepped up to the plate and volunteered your resources, time and money...I thank you from the bottom of my heart.  YOU are the people for whom we need to thank.




What should OUCH put you down for Michael?   OUCH will await and post what you have decided you'd be best suited for.    Media?   Education commitee?  The newsletter?   There are three.  Please contact OUCH for more areas you can be of service and help to.

Arrogance and boastful is not Jim.  He was just stating facts.  Anyone who listened to Jim at this convention for 2 days knows that.  And has said that in no uncertain terms.

Arrogance, boastful and   sarcastic may however be someone elses shortcomings...not Jims though.

OK guys, there is no need for this to deteriorate.

I don't think Michael meant to come off as antagonistic.  Jim and the BoD are working hard already to do what Michael is looking for.  Now, when it comes out, let's see what we can all do to help OUCH refocus and become effective again!!!

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I've always had a problem with this concept. In order for a member to participate or request info they have to work for it? What if for one reason or another someone is not in a position to step up? They get cast away? They are still a member/sufferer and deserve a response with out feeling as though they not worthy. Is that what OUCH is supposed to be about?

Of course how you go about requesting info. may influence the response you get from those who are able to be working for OUCH.

A demanding approach breeds resentment and that helps no one.

I think Michael is rather articulate, but then I've been known to have a propensity to pontificate.

Yes, those of us who want to see some positive changes are anxious to see what happens. Based on what I've seen/read so far, I've decided to let folks try and move forward on the momentum created at the convention.

After waiting this long to see if OUCH would even survive, I think I can wait just a little longer to let people catch their breath.

But then, that's just my Californian-transplanted-to-Texas attitude 

Marc

I read Michael's posts with interest whenever he posts.  He is articulate and thoughtful in his writing.  As someone said things get lost in the translation.  I don't believe he intended to be demanding based on the personality he has presented over the years.

Jim did a great job at the convention.  Those of us who were there know that.  Those who were not there do not.  What they know is the way things have been in the past when we either did not get the info needed or got part of it after an extended time.  I can understand Michael's anticipation and wanting to get the news officially while it is still fresh.  All he has heard is the great things we have had to say about the talk there, but has yet to see the official word.  Those of us who were there KNOW Jim will come through promptly.  Those not there can only hope it won't just be business as usual.  Cut Michael and the others who were unable to be there a little slack.

JMHO
Jerry

Linda.... (and all)

Quote: „We need BoD members.“

I have been on the BoD, I have resigned for reasons that I don’t think
I should post...... and to be honest don’t even think about going into
the reasons......

But if you would like I will share them in a telephone (Skype) call with you and Jim!

Quote: What should OUCH put you down for Michael?   OUCH will
await and post what you have decided you'd be best suited for.    Media?   Education commitee?  The newsletter?   There are three.  Please contact OUCH for more areas you can be of service and help to.

Lind, I believe you know that even as this (unnecessary) discussion is going I am involved in one major project.... the O2 study and clinical test, and the link (and $) from Linde are a result of work I and Pete have done.....  and still do!

I am involved in one more project involving O2, that is yet to become public....

I am involved in promoting ONS studies and trail procedures..... ONB (occipital nerve Block)
trail procedures..... in both also personally as a “lab mouse”.......
I am involved in a project in a very promising area for CH, searching for donors and financial
support!
Just because I have hardly ever hang my engagement on the big horn, dose not entail I am
forgetting the urgent need for doing!  I do not need my name on thing..... or any gratitude.....
I do things because I believe it has to be done....

Sorry Linda but I do need to support a family to.... and with the above involvement I can not
commit my self to another commitment – I will probably be doing wrong to OUCH and the projects
I am involved in – I will do many things, but only half way, time is a scarcity, and I try to do the things
I do right..... do less but do it right!

Linda..... I am at times sarcastic! but to tell me I am arrogant and boastful.... I let it by
this.... and attribute it to your personal (and natural) obligation to take Jims side!

All  I am looking for is a discussion....
keep the POSITIVE momentum from before the convention.... to keep OUCH on our daily
agenda....
I choose to write the way I do... and express my self the way I do in order to generate
an on going discussion.... and I will continue doing so – I believe OUCH needs to be on
our agenda, and by having OUCH on the boards the interest of the members will grow
productive and positive discussions will (I think) will generate also higher personal involvement in the organization, and will enable to recruit volunteers and an easier
manor!

I do not take any of the posted attributes personally! situations like that accrue
in any open and constructive discussion.....  and as I said often I do and will
always respect each and every one of our virtual family members.... I might
disagree with them, I might dislike some of the ideas or posts, and most likely voice
my opinion, positive or negative.....
but asking or posing a question, or just commenting dose not entail disrespect
in the contrary by commenting, I have taken my time to read and react.... and that
is a very respectful act, I care and show interest......
I respect very much the ones that have taken responsibility.... and do! I might disagree
with them, but I do respect them very much.....

Its not a cheer leading contest.... and award winning contest.... it is a work for the good
of all of us....

I would like to keep this discussion going, it might get at times uncomfortable for some
(including my self) but we need to take our egos and persona out of this and focus on
what is important to all of us.... OUCH
its not about who did what and why.... it is about the constructive exchange of information... stimulation..... open discussion.... respectful and positive
constructive discussion is the first step in involvement...... and commitment.......

Michael