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robert riegelsperger

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Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Aug 7^th, 2009 at 11:41am

Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED

FYI Please read. .

Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to know....

Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our

backs. You may want to read about it.. It wasn' t mentioned on the

news... just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN

screen.

Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA . This is the news that didn't ' t make the headlines...

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees and "conflict victims" in Gaza .

The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands

of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States ,

was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on

February 4.

Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order

provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to

individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the

Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.

Let ' s review....itemized list of some of Barack Obama ' s most recent

actions since his inauguration:

His first call to any head of state, as president, was to Mahmoud

Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.

His first one-on-one television interview with any news organization

was with Al Arabia television.

His first executive order was to fund/facilitate abortion(s) not just

here within the U. S. , but within the world, using U. S. tax payer

funds.

He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees

halted.

He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.

He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole

and the "terror attack" on 9/11.

Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian

refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.

These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the

blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.

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PLEASE PASS THIS ON... AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW

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BarbaraD CH.com Alumnus Offline Hugs to ya Posts: 8333 Douglasville, TX Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #1 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 12:34pm Robert, I read this some time ago and I still don't see where it's moving anyone to the US and feeding and housing them. It may be in there but what you posted just don't show it....
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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #2 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 12:37pm

robert riegelsperger wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 11:41am:

PLEASE PASS THIS ON... AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW

America needs to know the truth - not a twisted distortion.

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More dishonest conservative chain mails to instill fear and promote unrest.

Anyone who posts a chain email without verifying it is a FOOL! I will forgive the fool at work who sent one around yesterday about adopting those two cute retrievers, but this right wing pattern of lying about liberals is annoying -- and it makes you a liar and a tool, Robert.

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BarbaraD CH.com Alumnus Offline Hugs to ya Posts: 8333 Douglasville, TX Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #3 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 12:42pm Thanks Monty - that sounds more reasonable...
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #4 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 1:14pm Quote: but this right wing pattern of lying about liberals is annoying That's a big two-way street there, bub.
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robert riegelsperger CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 16 houston Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #5 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 1:39pm I sincerely apologize for posting bad information. I did check on snopes but HB1388 yielded no results. In this case, I indeed am a "tool". I am sorry for getting your panties in a wad. I hope you can remove them without causing any brain damage.
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Kilroy 2.0 CH.com Sponsor Offline Kilroy 2. is Here! Kilroy 2. is Everywhere! Posts: 1637 Madison,WI Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #6 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:07pm Quote: but this right wing pattern of lying about liberals is annoying What is that about, So if you do not like Obama that makes a person right winged whatever? What if I don't like Obama or anything he stands for and I also hated GW Bush. Then what would you call me.
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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #7 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:36pm

Kilroy 2.0 wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:07pm:

What is that about, So if you do not like Obama that makes a person right winged whatever? What if I don't like Obama or anything he stands for and I also hated GW Bush. Then what would you call me.

No, I didn't say that you have to like Obama, regardless of where on the spectrum you fall. And I didn't mean to imply that every conservative is a liar, although my statement that you quoted could be interpreted that way. Apologies, and let me map it out a little clearer:

The original post: Obama is opening America up to terrorists!
Birthers: Obama isn't a citizen!
Health Care Opponents: Obama wants to Kill Grandma! Obama wants to destroy private insurance! Obama gonna take your Kodachrome away!

It wasn't long ago that the right wing was up in arms about a routine law enforcement briefing document that mentioned possible domestic terrorism from racist groups, militias, and anti-abortion groups.

Since that report, one doctor who performs abortions has been gunned down (by an anti-abortion activist), one white supremacist nut has opened fire on the Holocaust Museum, and one birther afraid of gun control boarded himself up in his parent's home, shot 3 policemen (killing one officer), and then turned a gun on himself. Maybe the talking heads on the right should try to reign in the angry schizophrenics instead of encouraging them?

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #8 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:36pm Kilroy 2.0 wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:07pm: What is that about, So if you do not like Obama that makes a person right winged whatever? What if I don't like Obama or anything he stands for and I also hated GW Bush. Then what would you call me. One of the few, the proud, the sane.
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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #9 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:43pm

Kilroy 2.0 wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 3:07pm:

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but this right wing pattern of lying about liberals is annoying

What is that about, So if you do not like Obama that makes a person right winged whatever? What if I don't like Obama or anything he stands for and I also hated GW Bush. Then what would you call me.

Intelligent & a non-sheeple.

Sheeple
It is often used to denote persons who voluntarily acquiesce to a perceived authority, or suggestion without sufficient research to understand fully the scope of the ramifications involved in that decision, and thus undermine their own human individuality or in other cases give up certain rights. The implication of sheeple is that as a collective, people believe whatever they are told, especially if told so by a perceived authority figure believed to be trustworthy, without processing it or doing adequate research to be sure that it is an accurate representation of the real world around them. The term is generally used in a political and sometimes in a religious sense.

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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #10 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 4:05pm

Monty,

Those few extreme examples are hardly cause to stereotype 50-60 million people. Nobody can "reign in" truly deranged people of any color, flavor or variety.

Interesting how you neatly connect the dots from deranged gunmen to average conservative citizens. Is it your indirect inference that we should all be demonized?

Do you feel that no similar examples exist on the far fringes of the extreme left? I can provide them as "proof of evil" if that would help.

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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #11 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 4:28pm

Marc,

Obviously, each and every action of the schizophrenic or loner cannot be controlled. But creating a climate of hysteria, hatred, and encouraging violence does make a difference.

Do you think when Glenn Beck jokes about poisoning the Speaker of the House of Representatives on TV ... is that going too far?

And who is trying to derail the conversation??

Quote:

Jewish Groups Assail Nazi Comparisons Made by Conservatives in Health Care Debate

August 07, 2009 2:14 PM

“Regardless of the political differences and the substantive differences in the debate over health care, the use of Nazi symbolism is outrageous, offensive and inappropriate,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. “Americans should be able to disagree on the issues without coloring it with Nazi imagery and comparisons to Hitler. This is not where the debate should be at all.”

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Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED
Reply #12 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 4:57pm

To answer your question about Nazi symbols: People with the same type of mentality that did so with GWB, repeatedly.

Do you not recall the severe divisiveness being nurtured and rallied by mainstream liberals?

I question your choice of what group should carry the blame for causing hysteria. From where I sit, that is certainly a two way street, my friend.

Do you honestly feel that radical, inappropriate behavior is unique to conservatives?

Do you feel that "demonizing the enemy" is some new tactic only recently invented by the right? In reality, the left is simply not liking the taste of what they have been dishing out.

None of my comments are meant to condone inappropriate behavior.

Merely an honest observation of what is going on - no blinders.

Marc

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Reply #13 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 8:31pm

OK since Nancy Pelosi's statement earlier this week that the people at the town meetings disagreeing with the health care bill, are Nazis, carrying Nazi signs and wearing Nazi armbands and threatning people. I suppose this now makes her a Liberal left wing schizophrenic Neo Conservative crank. Let me know your mind on this Monty. You seem to have a handle on these conservative hate mongers.

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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #14 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 9:20pm Has anyone actually seen videos (from credible sources) of the Nazi crowd? The only eye witness reports I've been able to find indicate that there was A sign with a swastika in the center of a circle with a line through it - indicating "no Nazis." Like no smoking signs. Anyone have a picture/video? Marc
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Jennifer CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 3265 Supply, VA Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #15 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 9:27pm robert riegelsperger wrote on Aug 7^th, 2009 at 1:39pm: I am sorry for getting your panties in a wad. I hope you can remove them without causing any brain damage. AHEM???!!!! And FAIR is ....................?????????????????????
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Marc Ex Member Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #16 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 9:32pm Jen, He doesn't know about the sand...................
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Jennifer CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 3265 Supply, VA Gender:	Re: Subject: Fwd: HB 1388 PASSED Reply #17 - Aug 7^th, 2009 at 9:41pm rules are at the top of the page. Same rules apply to everyone. And that is MY sand Marc, I EARNED it lol.
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