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verapamil question on doses
Aug 13th, 2009 at 8:55pm
 
[color=#333333][/color][size=14][/size]Ok....I finally got verapamil from my doctor...He gave me 240 mg.
    I have read in here, that one should take it 40mg in the am, and 40mg noonish, and 80mg night, and then some...or something like that.   So What should I do...First dose I broke one in half, and took that, just to make sure of no bad side effects. Wink

    What is the best way to dose with this?   lorac
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Re: verapamil question on doses
Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 9:43pm
 
1st the dosage should be discussed with your doctor if you are planning to play around with it, get his or her advice 1st.

It will also depend on whether or not you are taking the (slow release) meaning time release Verapamil or the regular release variety of Verapamil.

Initially my Doctor suggested I take it at night when he had me start on the regular variety of Verap.  This didn't seem to work to well for me so I wound up taking my dr prescribed dose between 11am and 12pm needed to have it in my system before the afternoon/evening hit along with the CH attacks.   Each person is different, again speak with your doctor.

I am on the SR-slow release verapamil and it's the highest dose my doctor can or will prescribe someone of my meager size   Tongue  for now it does the trick, but have had to add extra herbals to help keep the number and intensity of CH attacks down.

I hope this helps and please speak with your DR before you mess with your prescribed dosage.

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Re: verapamil question on doses
Reply #2 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 10:32am
 
SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.
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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   

Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.

    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).
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Re: verapamil question on doses
Reply #3 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 4:26pm
 
[color=#0000ff][/color]Thanks a bunch guys.

The Verapimil seems to be working ok so far, even though its only two days....I am optimistic!     Smiley   lorac
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