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Paul98
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Aug 23rd, 2009 at 11:23am
 
Over 30 Syracuse University students died fo no other reason than being on an aircraft that was the target of finatics.  The names of the students are carved in stone at SU fo all to remember.  My heart goes out to the people who knew them.

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Ronnie Reagan did the right thing.

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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2009 at 6:09pm
 
Paul98 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2009 at 11:23am:
Ronnie Reagan did the right thing.


I couldn't agree more, more than you'll ever know, now go on facebook and accept my friends request please  Smiley
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2009 at 7:08pm
 
Gordon Brown is a disgrace to this country as our PM and a disgrace to Scotland as being one of theirs.

I am disgusted and ashamed beyond belief at this duplicity but truly - I expected no better from the spineless toe-rag.
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Reply #3 - Aug 24th, 2009 at 12:41am
 
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Gordon Brown is a disgrace to this country as our PM and a disgrace to Scotland as being one of theirs.


I don't know about that but WTF was Mr. Brown eating when picture was taken?

God what a beautiful couple!

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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2009 at 8:32am
 
FBI director, Robert Mueller is p*ssed.

\FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER'S LETTER

For Immediate Release
August 22, 2009


Washington D.C.
FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

Letter from FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, III, to Scottish Minister Kenny MacAskill

August 21, 2009

The Honorable Kenny MacAskill, MSP
Cabinet Secretary for Justice
Scottish Government
St. Andrew's House
Regent Road
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom
EH13DG

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Over the years I have been a prosecutor, and recently as the Director of the FBI, I have made it a practice not to comment on the actions of other prosecutors, since only the prosecutor handling the case has all the facts and the law before him in reaching the appropriate decision.

Your decision to release Megrahi causes me to abandon that practice in this case. I do so because I am familiar with the facts, and the law, having been the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the investigation and indictment of Megrahi in 1991. And I do so because I am outraged at your decision, blithely defended on the grounds of "compassion."

Your action in releasing Megrahi is as inexplicable as it is detrimental to the cause of justice. Indeed your action makes a mockery of the rule of law. Your action gives comfort to terrorists around the world who now believe that regardless of the quality of the investigation, the conviction by jury after the defendant is given all due process, and sentence appropriate to the crime, the terrorist will be freed by one man's exercise of "compassion." Your action rewards a terrorist even though he never admitted to his role in this act of mass murder and even though neither he nor the government of Libya ever disclosed the names and roles of others who were responsible.

Your action makes a mockery of the emotions, passions and pathos of all those affected by the Lockerbie tragedy: the medical personnel who first faced the horror of 270 bodies strewn in the fields around Lockerbie, and in the town of Lockerbie itself; the hundreds of volunteers who walked the fields of Lockerbie to retrieve any piece of debris related to the breakup of the plane; the hundreds of FBI agents and Scottish police who undertook an unprecedented global investigation to identify those responsible; the prosecutors who worked for years--in some cases a full career--to see justice done.

But most importantly, your action makes a mockery of the grief of the families who lost their own on December 21, 1988. You could not have spent much time with the families, certainly not as much time as others involved in the investigation and prosecution. You could not have visited the small wooden warehouse where the personal items of those who perished were gathered for identification--the single sneaker belonging to a teenager; the Syracuse sweatshirt never again to be worn by a college student returning home for the holidays; the toys in a suitcase of a businessman looking forward to spending Christmas with his wife and children.

You apparently made this decision without regard to the views of your partners in the investigation and prosecution of those responsible for the Lockerbie tragedy. Although the FBI and Scottish police, and prosecutors in both countries, worked exceptionally closely to hold those responsible accountable, you never once sought our opinion, preferring to keep your own counsel and hiding behind opaque references to "the need for compassion."

You have given the family members of those who died continued grief and frustration. You have given those who sought to assure that the persons responsible would be held accountable the back of your hand. You have given Megrahi a "jubilant welcome" in Tripoli, according to the reporting. Where, I ask, is the justice?

Sincerely yours,

Robert S. Mueller, III
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Reply #5 - Aug 24th, 2009 at 9:41am
 
McASSkill made a WRONG discission in my opinion and that of most of the world. I hope the Scots see fit to relieve him of his high and mighty position.

I heard his interview yesterday trying to "justify" his position and there just ain't no justification for what he did. The got a little testy trying to draw sympathy cause the man was dying... I was "touched" (yeah right)...

Let one of these bleeding hearts loose a kid to something like this and let's see how quickly their position changes... It's easy to have an opinion when you're not involved or never lost anyone.

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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 8:07am
 
Why should that evil toerag get to spend his last days with his family? The people on the plane didn't. The people of Lockerbie who died didn't.

There are thousands of people over the world who personally knew the victims. Family's, friends, co-workers, teachers - all of them are serving a life sentence too and they CAN'T get a reprieve.

Why should he?
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Reply #7 - Aug 25th, 2009 at 6:06pm
 
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There are thousands of people over the world who personally knew the victims. Family's, friends, co-workers, teachers - all of them are serving a life sentence too and they CAN'T get a reprieve.


I lost a good friend Helen, who I still think of often. Usually if I drive by the house, the shades are always down, its sad really, I can't explain it any other way. Even reading this brings me back to the phone booth near her house where I first heard the news. I keep getting flash backs.

I don't think we can change whats been done, all I hope and pray for is that he doesn't go out as a maartar, and hurt more innocent people.

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Reply #8 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:23am
 
Oh my God Sean, I'm cold thinking about that. It hadn't even occurred to me. That is truly terrifying.
I'm so sorry about your friend too
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Reply #9 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 6:29am
 
Kind of like cutting loose the terrorists from Gitmo, some who are now greenskeepers on a Bermuda golf course!
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Reply #10 - Aug 26th, 2009 at 11:20am
 
Part of a Times editorial:

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In the gap of perception over Mr. Megrahi’s homecoming, where the West expressed outrage, Colonel Qaddafi saw hypocrisy, experts said. When in 2007 Libya released five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor sentenced to death on charges they had infected children with the virus that causes AIDS, they were greeted by the Bulgarian president and prime minister, the French president’s wife and the foreign affairs commissioner of the European Union.

Colonel Qaddafi agreed to send them to Bulgaria to serve out prison terms, but they were immediately pardoned by the Bulgarian president.

“Why didn’t we hear these objections, on the exoneration of this condemned team?” Colonel Qaddafi asked last week. “Are we donkeys, but they are humans?”


And your point is?

Charlie
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