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My wife told me God would heal me
Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:06pm

Kinda pissed me off a little bit.
To tell you the truth. I been having these things for 20 years.
For the love of everything good, whats the freaking hold-up then man? Roll Eyes

Then my wife told me I dont have enough FAITH.

OH, OK.....like now, its MY OWN FAULT Cheesy

that I haven't been healed.

WHATEVER DUDE

Any religious folk in here, or what?

Or am in even allowed to talk about this stuff in here?

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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #1 - Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:08pm Cloister headaches?
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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #2 - Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:27pm

ROFLMAO

Brian!!!

If that's the case we are all cloister f@cked

I completely understand where you are coming from Lawrence. We have all been told some really stupid chit over the years with regards to CH.

I was once told "You just need to learn to control them" OMG next you'll want me to control the weather while you're at it!

Some people just don't get it Lawrence and there isn't much you can do about it. You may want to have your wife come here and read up some on CH. Maybe ... just maybe then she'll change her tune.

I've been praying for years for God to take them away. All I can say is maybe God has a plan for us that we are unaware of yet.

Or on the other hand...

Maybe the devil is just f-ing around with us, because we're all so GOOD!! Grin

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #3 - Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:37pm I look forward to the day when seemingly rational people will stop religionizing stupid shit that just happens.
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Lawrence CH.com Veteran Offline There WILL be a cure Posts: 163 Merrillville, Indiana Gender:	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #4 - Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:40pm Brew wrote on Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:37pm: I look forward to the day when seemingly rational people will stop religionizing stupid shit that just happens. aint that the truth
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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #5 - Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:42pm

JustNotRight wrote on Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:27pm:

ROFLMAO

I've been praying for years for God to take them away. All I can say is maybe God has a plan for us that we are unaware of yet.

I stopped praying that God end these clusters.....because I had done this sooo much It felt....redundant.
it felt.....not good.

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #6 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 12:09am

I tend to get quite bitter about this.

I've got family members who believe in THE SECRET.

I can't, I can't even listen to that stuff due to the shit I've been through.

When I was 11, and first got ill... I went into complete denial.

I convinced myself that I was not sick. I did not have a disease that controlled what my body did. I was going to continue to go to school, and could succeed. I didn't have to admit to the constant headache I had.

It didn't fucking work.

I prayed more than enough. I had more than enough faith.

The only thing prayer and faith did was get me through it. It has not cured me.

It's kept me going, but so has medication to control my conditions.

It's a tool for coping with things for me. Nothing more. I believe that everything happens for a reason (most of my problems have at least helped me ease someone elses suffering in the end...) but that doesn't mean to me that God will cure me.

I put my hope and faith in researchers, In doctors, In my family and in the other sufferers of my conditions, as those are people who may be able to do something about it, and if not, at least share my plight.

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #7 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 1:45am

Lawrence,

I guess you could say I'm "religious" although I don't consider my beliefs "religion", but rather a personal faith and relationship with God.

To answer your questions about what your wife said, First of all, she has a faulty understanding of what the Scriptures teach about healing. Nowhere does it say that all will be healed if they "have enough faith". I have seen healing take place in a number of cases, have experienced it in a couple of instances myself, (the day before surgery once). I have full faith that God is able and often willing to heal, but it is for HIS purposes not ours. It is HIS choice as to when and where, and not ours to demand. If I could demand it of Him then I would be God and not He.

I used to ask repeatedly for healing and for them to go away also, but have come to understand as did the apostle Paul that "My grace is sufficient for thee", and that "My strength is made perfect (complete) in weakness." Once I was willing to accept that He has a purpose in my life that includes CH I've also learned to live with them instead of constantly fighting them. Doesn't mean I don't still feel the pain as intensely, but I have peace of mind knowing that He knows the end from the beginning and that I can trust Him. I've also learned a real appreciation for the book of Job, as you can see from my signature line.

PM me if I can help. Anything beyond this needs to be private.

Jerry

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #8 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 5:25am

chronic clusterhead=Doomed.devil's son.Lucifer.666
episodic clusterhead=he recieves absolution but after a while he falls in temptation and takes a bath in pool of sins until he regrets once again and recieves absolution but after a while.... Grin

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All I can say is maybe God has a plan for us that we are unaware of yet.

God:You will get on that cross.stay for three days.And then i ll call you near me and humans will have a chance to salvation!alright?
Jesus:huh?

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #10 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 10:00am

I will shorten this story:

Man trapped in flood on his roof...water is rising, prays to God to save him...a guy in a canoe shows up says get in, man refuses says God will save me...a boat shows up to rescue him..man refuses the help says God will save me.....a helicopter shows up...man refuses says God will save me...water rises...man drowns...gets to heaven, asks God why didn't you save me? God said for heavens sake I sent a canoe, a boat and a Helicopter.....

you get the point. Don't wait for a miraculous cure, use the people God sends you. I'm sure she meant well! Wink

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jay CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 35	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #11 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 11:13am We all have the right to beleive in what we want to, I do not peronaly believe (why would any CH suffer!) But also the law gives you thye right to choice divorice or not!
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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #12 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 12:11pm

Pixie-elf wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 12:09am:

I tend to get quite bitter about this.

I've got family members who believe in THE SECRET.

I can't, I can't even listen to that stuff due to the shit I've been through.

When I was 11, and first got ill... I went into complete denial.

I convinced myself that I was not sick. I did not have a disease that controlled what my body did. I was going to continue to go to school, and could succeed. I didn't have to admit to the constant headache I had.

It didn't fucking work.

I prayed more than enough. I had more than enough faith.

The only thing prayer and faith did was get me through it. It has not cured me.

It's kept me going, but so has medication to control my conditions.

It's a tool for coping with things for me. Nothing more. I believe that everything happens for a reason (most of my problems have at least helped me ease someone elses suffering in the end...) but that doesn't mean to me that God will cure me.

I put my hope and faith in researchers, In doctors, In my family and in the other sufferers of my conditions, as those are people who may be able to do something about it, and if not, at least share my plight.

i hear ya. i guess i feel the same way you do.

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 1:57pm

Callico wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 1:45am:

I have full faith that God is able and often willing to heal, but it is for HIS purposes not ours. It is HIS choice as to when and where, and not ours

Seems awfully.....anti-selfless to me.

So.....if God gets something out of it, then he'll help out? Damn.

Now I know what the collection plate stuff is all about.......

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #14 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 2:22pm

BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 1:57pm:

Callico wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 1:45am:

I have full faith that God is able and often willing to heal, but it is for HIS purposes not ours. It is HIS choice as to when and where, and not ours

Seems awfully.....anti-selfless to me.

So.....if God gets something out of it, then he'll help out? Damn.

Now I know what the collection plate stuff is all about.......

I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 2:24pm

Guiseppi wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 10:00am:

I will shorten this story:

Man trapped in flood on his roof...water is rising, prays to God to save him...a guy in a canoe shows up says get in, man refuses says God will save me...a boat shows up to rescue him..man refuses the help says God will save me.....a helicopter shows up...man refuses says God will save me...water rises...man drowns...gets to heaven, asks God why didn't you save me? God said for heavens sake I sent a canoe, a boat and a Helicopter.....

you get the point. Don't wait for a miraculous cure, use the people God sends you. I'm sure she meant well! Wink

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #16 - Aug 29^th, 2009 at 5:24pm

I agree with everything Jerry posted. I feel the same way. I had epilepsy for 28 years. I had over 30 seizures a day. The drs could do nothing for me. I was allergic to all meds on the market. I had my pastor and a visiting evangelist lay hands on me and pray for me for a healing. I was healed on the spot and have been siezure free for 17 years now. I had torn my rotator cuff and needed surgery. God healed me the day before surgery so I didn't need surgery any more. I have been part of, seen and heard about many miricles being preformed. God is able! However, it is in His time and according to His purpose. I pray that I am healed of ch but I am not stupid. God may choose not to heal me like he didn't heal Paul of his afflictions. I take medication and let drs help me. But I will say that God performs his best miricles when we are up against all odds and the drs just cant do anything. That is my opinion based on my relationship with God. I am sorry that your wife is shoving this belief on you to a point where it sounds like you are getting angry. Please keep seeking medical help and read the boards there is lots of good advice here like oxygen, imitrex, verapamil, lithium, etc. I hope you find relief one way or another.

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black CH.com Old Timer Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 347 Greece,Athens Gender:	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #17 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 5:01am Quote: I look forward to the day when seemingly rational people will stop religionizing stupid shit that just happens. i am with you Brew on this.But it seems one needs more than guts to see the truth when it does not serve him. so this day will come around..midnight?
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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #18 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 8:45am

Well, my faith in God is strong. I've read The Secret and plenty of other self help books for other interests.

But I'm still a clusterhead and don't count on it to end because of God's miracle or something like that.

However, I do believe that I did become a clusterhead for a reason, and that is part of my path in this life. if I'd be in remission for the rest of my life, that would be a blessing...but I'm still prepared for hits and cycles. What's true for others, is true to others, that's how I see it myself.

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Re: My wife told me God would heal me
Reply #19 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 1:20pm

Lawrence wrote on Aug 28^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

....My wife told me God would heal me

....I been having these things for 20 years.

Well if you've been attending church and adding to the collection plate I think you may have grounds for a refund! Cheesy

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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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seaworthy CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 706	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #20 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 6:15pm I'm reasonably certain God doesn't like the things I call him when I'm getting hit so I don't expect a lot of assitance from him.
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foxxfury666 CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 7	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #21 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 6:39pm i have a prayer that i say, "let me have tonight" i'll say it hundreds of times before i go to bed, it's never worked, but when in the war, i can't help it. maybe it is brain damage
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #22 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 6:54pm When I pray, it's usually along the lines of, "Thank you for my wife, thank you for my son, thank you for my health, and thank you for the opportunity to provide for my family." And then it's usually something like "Thy will be done." I stopped asking for anything a long time ago.
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-johnny- CH.com Sponsor Offline theres no smoking on the dock Posts: 1642 fayette county ohio Gender:	Re: My wife told me God would heal me Reply #24 - Aug 30^th, 2009 at 7:19pm asking god to get rid of your headaches is like asking god for a million dollars. instead of getting a direct result it opens doors of opportunity. god gives you the tools and you have to figure out how to use them.
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