I'm not talking about punching out everybody in striking distance,lol,altho sometimes I really really want to! lol

More of being at a kip 9-10 and punching a wall,drilling your fist into your temples,slamming doors and shit like that.When I am in an extreme h/a I kinda zone out,dont talk to me and certainly dont offer assistance,theres nothing ANYBODY can do so I clench my teeth and say no thank you but go away NOW!!!!!!!!

I have a few holes in my walls,one in solid pine door,lol,and if Im hurtin and in public? I'd hate to be the person who steps on my toe! 

I usually run to a hidden area if Im not home,which can be hard to find sometimes,just ask Central Park in New York City! LOL

can ya relate?

Honestly? No.

You might want to talk to someone regarding developing some tools for anger management.

I've seen "random acts of violence" come out of a number of people, none of whom had CH. What they all had was an inability to control and direct their anger.

Nope.

During a true high level hit, I just withdraw into myself and tune out the rest of the world. Nothing exists but the pain itself.

Patrick S. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2009 at 3:40pm:


I used to get to that point sometimes, long time ago when I couldnt really handle a kip-10 and didnt have the proper meds.
I never banged my head on anything, but I did punch a few holes in some walls as a teenager.
Learning to control your emotions, can be hard when in such pain. You just gotta practice it.
One thing that helped me thru this stage when I was around 18 or 19 years old, was the fact that acting out with this rage didnt make the pain go away any quicker, and it seemed to almost intensify it, make it worse.

Get a rag to chew on and flex your muscles, dont hit nobody man...

A little bitchy    maybe but not violent   

I prefer to be by myself unless it's really baadd then I want help with hot clothes etc if nothing else is working, including my abortives.  My Dad has had to help me through a few unfortunately, poor guy gets out of breath just helping me through them sometimes.  Admittedly those few he had to help with I probably should have gone to hospital for, but I can be stubborn even when battling the beast.

I don't like to talk or be spoken to during one so if you get chatty around me when I'm rockin the beast then I'm liable to get up and just leave the room or ignore you all together, my Chatty daughter learned this the hard way, poor kid.  But she now is understanding a little bit more of what I go through, it's taken her longer than my son or Dad to come around on CH.

No violence.
But no light, no sound, some hair pulling, some palm of the hand against the head. Lots of ice water soaked hand towels to the side and back of head.

And when it's over......just some time to lay there and recover whats left.

Marc wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2009 at 5:21pm:


Same here exactly.

seaworthy wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 11:49am:

But it was a Vega, so no big whoop.

seaworthy wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 6:27pm:



A Roller skate with a visor   

Remember the Yugo ???   

E-Double wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2009 at 9:44pm:

yeah,i didnt mean violence on other people but anger and rage from the pain,sorry to mislead.

I do zone but when i enter a cycle my minds not ready and after a couple 10's I normally get into the zone and suffer mode.Last night I had a 5 hour headache,well 4 consecutive ones that oxygen aborted but they would return very soon,I gave up on the O2 and went old school,just pace or did my dance lying down with ice packs for well over an hour.My head is still sore and Im afraid of what today will bring.

added: I have had mri and ctscans about 4 years ago after 3 or 4 years of needless suffering and diagnosed "cluster".I use O2 as abortive and no preventatives.