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Reply #50 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 7:25am
 
Yeah Chuck, for a minute there, you looked a lot like Tony Bourdain. Wink


BTW, anyone else think that by putting the bit about CH's at the beginning of the show it legitimized the rest of the show more?

I just thought about that when I woke up this a.m.
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Reply #51 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 7:51am
 
Hey all.   According to my tv guide (on the dish) Same show is on again at 7pm on Saturday the 7th of Nov.

  I did watch the one about Meth, and part of the one about weed, before I fell asleep. Angry  They were good.

   We tried to tape it, but it didn't work,,,,haven't used the vcr in soooo long..I guess we forgot how!!

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Reply #52 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 8:47am
 
Bummer, National Geographic Canada had bull riding in it's 10:00pm slot.

Looking forward to finding it elsewhere.
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Reply #53 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 9:18am
 
I'm glad I recorded it on my dvr because I could not stay awake last night.  Looking forward to seeing it when I get home.
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Reply #54 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 9:46am
 

Does anyone else think that they could have done away with the woman with ribbons on her head twirling sticks  around and 'tripping"?  I thought that it detracted from the seriousness of the good benefits that can be harnessed..as in the case of Cancer patients, CH, Autism and drug and alcohol addiction.
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Reply #55 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 10:17am
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Nov 4th, 2009 at 9:46am:
Does anyone else think that they could have done away with the woman with ribbons on her head twirling sticks  around and 'tripping"?  I thought that it detracted from the seriousness of the good benefits that can be harnessed..as in the case of Cancer patients, CH, Autism and drug and alcohol addiction.

I guess we're all critics after the fact, but I can see why they put that kind of stuff in. In this community, we're interested in one thing - how can this substance improve our lives. Most people are interested in how the hallucinogenic properties might improve their lives.

Not us. It's already proven that non-hallucinogenic doses get the job done for us. I guess I can forgive NGC for the overall presentation. Their interests are slightly different than ours.
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Reply #56 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 10:22am
 
Not having seen it yet, I can't speak to how the information "was" presented.

But I agree with Brew in that the producers of the show certainly would have differing interests than ours in how it gathered and presented the information.

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Reply #57 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 10:44am
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Nov 4th, 2009 at 9:46am:
Does anyone else think that they could have done away with the woman with ribbons on her head twirling sticks  around and 'tripping"?  I thought that it detracted from the seriousness of the good benefits that can be harnessed..as in the case of Cancer patients, CH, Autism and drug and alcohol addiction.

   Yep, but Chuck brought it back to reality.

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Reply #58 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 1:24pm
 
Chuck... you did an exceptional job there.  Well done. 

I am really dying to get my hands on some 2-Bromo.  One would think it would be less-controlled, but the fact there are few practical uses for it likely makes it impossible to source.
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Reply #59 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 3:56pm
 
YAY Chuck!! I don't have NatGeo channel (we are too cheap lol),so i did not watch, but thank you so much!!!
      I appreciate you helping the cause and everyone else who was on the show too... Thank you!!

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Reply #60 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 4:28pm
 
Looks like it will air again on Sat., 11-7

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Reply #61 - Nov 4th, 2009 at 8:35pm
 
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I watched it. All it is is a CSNY album cover. I watched it very closely. It didn't move.
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Reply #62 - Nov 5th, 2009 at 7:50am
 
After watching it, and the following Meth show (talk about scary, I was in Omaha and closely followed the search for the two young kids) but what struck me is the dopamine mechanism.  Do we know if the dopamine mechanism is triggered with Bromo or the other psychadelics?  At McMaster University they conducted trials where a person could actually increase their dopamine levels themselves with training.  I WANT that training.  The ultimate natural pain medication.  Wonder what it takes to trick to the brain into firing off that powerful pain killer feel good chemical without OVER stimulating it.

So many areas to look into, and just not enough money, time or resources to help .... *sigh*

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Reply #63 - Nov 5th, 2009 at 9:54am
 
I watched it and thought it was a good show overall.  Thank you Chuck for representing the ch community.  Very well done.

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Reply #64 - Nov 5th, 2009 at 1:22pm
 
Good work Chuck.

I fell asleep on the couch during the preceeding weed episode which is what normally happened to me when weed was involved.

I woke up in the middle of the night just in time to catch the rerun of the LSD episode.

I want my controlled substances.

Chuck, you're a star.

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Reply #65 - Nov 5th, 2009 at 3:16pm
 
Great program!  Thanks to all those involved!

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Reply #66 - Nov 7th, 2009 at 12:48pm
 
Chuck!  You were NOT a dork!  The video of you getting hit showed exactly what a CH sufferer goes through with each hit.  During your interview, you gave very well thought out responses, were very intelligent, and.......quite charming, I might add.

Well done!

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Reply #67 - Nov 7th, 2009 at 7:23pm
 
Sandy_C wrote on Nov 7th, 2009 at 12:48pm:
Chuck!  You were NOT a dork!  The video of you getting hit showed exactly what a CH sufferer goes through with each hit.  During your interview, you gave very well thought out responses, were very intelligent, and.......quite charming, I might add.

Well done!

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What she said!! Great job Chuck!
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Reply #68 - Nov 7th, 2009 at 10:52pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Nov 4th, 2009 at 9:46am:
Does anyone else think that they could have done away with the woman with ribbons on her head twirling sticks  around and 'tripping"?  I thought that it detracted from the seriousness of the good benefits that can be harnessed..as in the case of Cancer patients, CH, Autism and drug and alcohol addiction.


I so agree with you Linda. It just didn't fit into the rest of the stories. The time spent there could have been used for more medical content. And Chuck, you were great. Thanks for putting yourself out there for others to learn from.

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Reply #69 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 12:54pm
 
I'll respectfully disagree on the twirling sticks lady.  It was there to round out the discussion on LSD. I was very pleasantly surprised that they put CH early on and covered it so well for what they were doing.

Chuck and the rest did an awesome job on their part.  I was very impressed Chuck with your wording and attitude, it came off very well and you didn't come off as a "whoa is me" victim! 

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Reply #70 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 6:27pm
 
cash5542 wrote on Nov 7th, 2009 at 10:52pm:
I so agree with you Linda. It just didn't fit into the rest of the stories. The time spent there could have been used for more medical content. And Chuck, you were great. Thanks for putting yourself out there for others to learn from.

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Oh, you girls probably don't see a good reason for having girls in bikinis in the beer commercials either.  Cheesy

If the story is, "Ya can't tell a book by it's cover" then you need to show the cover. To dispel misconceptions you need to tell the entire history.

Besides that, I'm sure all the ladies out there twirling sticks with ribbons have a different viewpoint of the content of the show and what else could have been focused upon.

I can tell you all this. The producers of the show took our part of the story very seriously and were determined to make it a serious, respectful look at what we as the cluster community had to say. I cant say enough about the care and concern they showed in telling our part of the story.

If you consider the long and storied history of LSD and psychedelics, we easily could have ended up on the cutting room floor without the producers commitment to our story.

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Reply #71 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 7:43pm
 
I kind of see the point but not really. When ever I talk about alternative medicines, the trippping psychadelic is what everyone thinks of. I would have loved to have seen more medical issues like post traumatic syndrome so that people could begin to see it in this light only, just for a moment. And Bob it's ok if bikini girl sell beer, that's supposed to be fun!I am very thankful for what was done with National Geographic. I called Lisas allergy dr before it was on. I can't wait to here his opinion.

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Reply #72 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 8:13pm
 
Brew wrote on Nov 4th, 2009 at 10:17am:
I guess I can forgive NGC for the overall presentation. Their interests are slightly different than ours.

I mentioned this right after the program aired, and I'll say it again. NGC has bills to pay, and they do that through advertisers. This was NOT merely a report on some scientific studies. They had to dedicate part of this show to something that drew the non-scientific community in. Part of it was aimed at aging hippies, and I'm okay with that. I'm also grateful they included what they did about CH.
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Reply #73 - Nov 8th, 2009 at 9:34pm
 
Very good point Bill!

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Reply #74 - Nov 9th, 2009 at 1:02am
 
Ordered my copy day before yesterday.    Smiley  Several of my (non-CH) friends have expressed interest in seeing it as well, and I've passed along the ordering information to them.

Kudos to the NGS, and to all those involved in the making of this production. 

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