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Reply #25 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:40am

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So then 95%-98% of them have cluster headaches?

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There are some other factors besides vitamin-D deficiency ex. smoking, to much alcohol, lack of exercise etc. Vitamin-D protects all your cells, has influence on almost 2000 genes and normalizes every other hormone in your body. But you have to get your level up between 50-80 ng/ml to get the full benefit. BTW vitamin-D is not a vitamin but a hormon.

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1000-2000 iu/dy (depending on remembering dosing schedule....prefer divided doses of most meds/supplements as it is a personal belief that the body can only absorb so much at a time).

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You can read a lot about D-vitamin here at Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #26 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 5:09pm I just found some interesting news about D-vitamin. It has nothing to do with CH, but confirms how important D-vitamin is for our health. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Best Niels
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Reply #27 - Oct 13^th, 2009 at 6:06pm

Several months ago at a checkup, I found out that my D was low (I wasn't having HA's). My Internist put me on an Rx of 50,000 units for 8 weeks, then 2000 units thereafter. I just finished my 8 weeks of headaches, so I can't see a connection from that experience. It would be so great if it were a help, but like the others here, I am curious to hear new findings, but I don't get my hopes up after 25 years of this. I, too, use to check everything out and think it was the culprit. I would have to hear it from many sources for a long period of time involving many people before I would take notice anymore. Hope it works for you...keep us posted.
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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #28 - Oct 14^th, 2009 at 5:25am Hi Joni Don't expect that vitamin-D will "cure" CH in the short term. It will take some time, maybe up to a year for the body to regenerate the damages after a long time of deficiency. Have you got a blood test recently? Best Niels
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Re: The CH cure?
Reply #29 - Oct 14^th, 2009 at 8:52am

Niels wrote on Oct 13^th, 2009 at 11:40am:

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There are some other factors besides vitamin-D deficiency ex. smoking, to much alcohol, lack of exercise etc.

I will agree that exercising more and quitting smoking has contributed to reducing my cycles in total time, intensity and frequency. Maybe it's a coincidence. Either way it can only help the body. I think rc seeds are big part of it too.

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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #30 - Oct 15^th, 2009 at 1:51am Yes, exercising and quitting smoking have a huge influence to normalize our blood pressure as D-vitamin has.
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1961mom CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 39 Eugene, Or Gender:	Re: The CH cure? Reply #31 - Oct 15^th, 2009 at 2:35am I had the Vitamin D test done last Spring (failed!) My Doc had me take 5000 mg per day through the summer and reduce to 2000 mg per day from then on. This series (that I'm in now) has been notably milder. I will keep Vitamin D3 in my cocktail!
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Reply #32 - Oct 15^th, 2009 at 3:42am

I'm very glad to hear that you have got some relief by taking vitamin-D.

But I don't understand why your Doc have reduced the intake to 2000 IU per day. Your D-level will drop during fall and winter. Normally you will get enough vitamin-D in the summer period, but have to take 3000-6000 IU per day rest of the year to maintain your D-level.
I will recommend you to get a new blood test and start taking 5000 IU again to get your serum level up between 50-80 ng/L.

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Reply #34 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 5:09am

Hi

Some new info about Vit-D.

Headaches Can Be Relieved With Calcium And Vitamin D
Dr. Richard Jensen, a San Diego holistic nutritionist, finds that using nutritional supplements can help relieve headaches without drugs.

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PRLog (Press Release) – Oct 20, 2009 – Headaches are one of the most common health complaints of adults. There are three types of headaches; tension, migraine, and cluster. The tension headache is the most common and often results from muscle tension around the neck and shoulders. Migraines may be due to hormonal imbalances within the brain. Cluster headaches usually affect men and are in some ways the most obscure of the three headache types. Headaches are usually treated with drugs, often painkillers such as aspirin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen. Migraine headache drugs are more complicated and sometimes involve the use of antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs that often have significant side effects.

However, there are natural alternatives to drug use for helping get rid of headaches. In one study, eight patients with chronic tension-type headaches and low vitamin D levels were put on a vitamin D and calcium regimen. All eight patients reported significant lessening of their headaches after supplementing with calcium and vitamin D. It appears that vitamin D and calcium can also help people with migraine headaches, including women who are in the postmenopausal phase of their lives. Several different hormonal changes accompany both menopause and its aftermath, post-menopause. These two changes in a woman’s life can result in many different ailments, including migraine headaches. In a small study, treatment with vitamin D and calcium dramatically reduced both the frequency and duration of migraine headaches within two months of starting the supplement therapy.

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Re: The CH cure?
Reply #35 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 11:01am

Niels wrote on Oct 27^th, 2009 at 5:09am:

Hi

Some new info about Vit-D.

Headaches Can Be Relieved With Calcium And Vitamin D
Dr. Richard Jensen, a San Diego holistic nutritionist, finds that using nutritional supplements can help relieve headaches without drugs.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

PRLog (Press Release) – Oct 20, 2009 – Headaches are one of the most common health complaints of adults. There are three types of headaches; tension, migraine, and cluster. The tension headache is the most common and often results from muscle tension around the neck and shoulders. Migraines may be due to hormonal imbalances within the brain. Cluster headaches usually affect men and are in some ways the most obscure of the three headache types. Headaches are usually treated with drugs, often painkillers such as aspirin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen. Migraine headache drugs are more complicated and sometimes involve the use of antidepressants and other psychiatric drugs that often have significant side effects.

However, there are natural alternatives to drug use for helping get rid of headaches. In one study, eight patients with chronic tension-type headaches and low vitamin D levels were put on a vitamin D and calcium regimen. All eight patients reported significant lessening of their headaches after supplementing with calcium and vitamin D. It appears that vitamin D and calcium can also help people with migraine headaches, including women who are in the postmenopausal phase of their lives. Several different hormonal changes accompany both menopause and its aftermath, post-menopause. These two changes in a woman’s life can result in many different ailments, including migraine headaches. In a small study, treatment with vitamin D and calcium dramatically reduced both the frequency and duration of migraine headaches within two months of starting the supplement therapy.

Absolute bullshit.
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Jeannie CH.com Sponsor Offline Live, Laugh, Love.... Posts: 2333 St Louis, Missouri Gender:	Re: The CH cure? Reply #36 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 11:25am Potter wrote on Oct 12^th, 2009 at 11:11pm: I ain't touchin this thread. Potter I KNEW you couldn't leave it alone! You know I love you, Potter!! Hope you are well! Jeannie
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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #37 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 11:58am Quote: Absolute bullshit. Potter Yes it's really hard to believe that Vitamin-D will have some effect on CH, isn't it Potter? Vitamin-D, Are you kidding me.....
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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: The CH cure? Reply #38 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 12:15pm Niels wrote on Oct 27^th, 2009 at 11:58am: Quote: Absolute bullshit. Potter Yes it's really hard to believe that Vitamin-D will have some effect on CH, isn't it Potter? Vitamin-D, Are you kidding me..... Perfect. Potter
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Reply #39 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 12:46pm

Perfect. And now all my dreams will come true.
I think maintaining all around general good eating habits, with a full spectrum multi vitamin will do the same thing. Then again I think alot of things. Like Potter could no way stay off this thread, and I would concur with his assessment of this topic. If it works for you do it. It is unreasonable to expect it to work for all.
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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #40 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:10pm Quote: It is unreasonable to expect it to work for all. If you don't try it, you will never know it. Some other vit-D benefits are 70% lower risk of cancer and heart diseases etc. But only if you have a level between 50-80ng/ml. Best Niels
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Joni CH.com Old Timer Offline Knowledge is Power Posts: 476 Gender:	Re: The CH cure? Reply #41 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:10pm Niels wrote on Oct 15^th, 2009 at 3:42am: I will recommend you to get a new blood test and start taking 5000 IU again to get your serum level up between 50-80 ng/L. Are you a physician?
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: The CH cure? Reply #42 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:21pm Perfect. If you don't try it, you will never know it. How do you know I haven't? Vitamin D good for me. the bb
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Re: The CH cure?
Reply #43 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:28pm

I am thrilled for you that your HA's are gone. If it truly is the Vitamin D that has caused your remission that is great. However, remission is the key word. So far, there is no CURE for CH.

Thank you for sharing what has been helpful to you in your battle. That is what this site is all about. I don't want you to be too surprised or disappointed if your CH returns. I hope it doesn't but please be prepared if it does.

Best of luck,

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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #44 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:30pm Quote: How do you know I haven't? Have you done it? Niels
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: The CH cure? Reply #45 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:37pm Yes,my levels are fine, however my CH doesn't know that. I'm in remission. My blood chemistry does not show any significant change when in an episode, so your theory does not hold water in my house. Dont take it personal though. We are all different. the bb
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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #46 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:49pm Quote: I don't want you to be too surprised or disappointed if your CH returns I'm definitely convinced that it won't. Vitamin-D is acting the same way as the drug sumatriptan (imitrex) by regulating the serotonin level. Thats a fact. Best, Niels
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Niels Ex Member I Love CH.com!	Re: The CH cure? Reply #47 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:52pm Hi bb What is your D-level? Is it between 50-80 ng/ml? Niels
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thebbz Ex Member	Re: The CH cure? Reply #48 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:55pm I'm definitely convinced that it won't. I am praying that it doesn't. Keep up the good fight and tanks for posting your thoughts. Still rowin the bb
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Reply #49 - Oct 27^th, 2009 at 1:56pm

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However, there are natural alternatives to drug use for helping get rid of headaches. In one study, eight patients with chronic tension-type headaches and low vitamin D levels were put on a vitamin D and calcium regimen. All eight patients reported significant lessening of their headaches after supplementing with calcium and vitamin D. It appears that vitamin D and calcium can also help people with migraine headaches, including women who are in the postmenopausal phase of their lives. Several different hormonal changes accompany both menopause and its aftermath, post-menopause. These two changes in a woman’s life can result in many different ailments, including migraine headaches. In a small study, treatment with vitamin D and calcium dramatically reduced both the frequency and duration of migraine headaches within two months of starting the supplement therapy.

Looks like it may help tension and migraine headaches but no mention of clusters. Is it safe to say if vitamin D helps, you don't have clusters?

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