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5 yr old, may be Clusters...any advice?
Oct 12th, 2009 at 6:42pm
 
Hi. I have a 5 yr old (6 in Dec.) son who I am worried about, maybe having cluster. I thought someone here might could offer some advice, maybe help me through this.
I am a Clusterhead myself. I am 32, and I have suffered since childhood. I can remember back to around age 12, but my Mom said since I was very small, I had them bad, but was always treated for the most common misdiagnosis, "sinus headache". It wasn't till about 7 yrs ago that I found my doctor now who finally diagnosed me. I am cf right now, but I feel it is cycle time creeping up, and I have some classic symptoms showing.  It seems to happen more often to me this time of year.

As for my son...He started getting bad headaches back in May, so I took him to my doctor. He was diagnosed with headaches in general, since the doc knows I suffer from migraines, monthly hormonal HA's, as well as my clusters. He said is was very common to run in the family. Well he prescribed him propranolol. Being the type of medicine it is, I gave him about a week to see if this headache thing would blow over before starting it, and pretty much it did. He would only have a HA 1-2 times a week, so I saw no need in dosing him with the med. full time since they went away. Well starting about 2-3 weeks ago, he is getting them really bad again. Only different this time. They are hitting him hard, sometimes suddenly out of the blue he will get very upset, crying with a HA, other times, they seem to be an all day ongoing thing. He is having them bad at school. It breaks my heart to see this.
Just this past Saturday, he pointed out something to me, that really caught my attention, he was having an all day episode when he said "why is my eye crying mama?"...I looked at him, sure enough, droopy watery eye, and nose was running on same side. He doesn't seem to be waking at night with any HA's, but he has a very hard time falling asleep due to a HA every night.
He is a very bright kid, but I worry about the HA's at school. I went to the school last Friday for a field trip, I walked into class and he was sitting there angry and in tears, so I asked him what was wrong, he said his head hurt.
I don't know what to do. I hate the idea of him taking that propranolol...His father passed away of a heart attack when he was 2. I know this med. affects your heart somehow.
I got him another doctors appt. in November (soon as I could get him in). I give him Tylenol w/ codeine that was prescribed to him also, but he is almost out of that. Tylenol and Motrin doesn't work for the poor lil guy. I'm just at a loss, and I'm worried sick and it breaks my heart to see him this way. He hasn't missed any school yet, but if he is hurting should I send him? Should I write his teacher a note explaining the situation, or go pick him up when he has a HA?
I feel so helpless for him.
Any advice is welcome. Just please keep us in your prayers.
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Re: 5 yr old, may be Clusters...any advice?
Reply #1 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:50pm
 
I can empathize with your situation it is very hard to watch your child go through something like that.  Heart wrenching would be an understatement.  If I could hug you right now I would. 

I am not a doctor but am a mother who raised a child with migraines from a very young age (2 years old he's now 21) so the following is just my opinion and I would first advise a call to your doctor or a visit to the emergency room when he has an attack.  On that note...I would start giving him the propranolol again if you have any left and ditch the  Tylenol with codeine, barbiturates tend to have bad affects on CH and migraines for that matter and can be addictive.

Please let us know how things turn out and I'll be keeping your little one in my thoughts.



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Re: 5 yr old, may be Clusters...any advice?
Reply #2 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 5:25pm
 
Get a referral to a pediatric neurologist.

While it does happen, CH passed along to the next generation is rare. Chances are something like 1.4% greater than the general population. But see the specialist, if only to rule it out.
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Reply #3 - Oct 14th, 2009 at 8:36pm
 
Do you use O2 to abort your own CH's and have you considered that for your son?
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2009 at 1:40pm
 
Brew wrote on Oct 13th, 2009 at 5:25pm:
Get a referral to a pediatric neurologist.

While it does happen, CH passed along to the next generation is rare. Chances are something like 1.4% greater than the general population. But see the specialist, if only to rule it out.



I agree with Brew...get a pediatric neurologist.  Chances being rare that it is hereditary doesn't mean it isn't of course.  Through the generations in my family, there are 10 of us with Clusters...8 diagnosed and the other 2 so long ago they called them Migraines, but the same symptoms as us all.  Our youngest was 3 years old...she is in cycle right now at age 19.  We are all episodic with one maybe changing to chronic.  I will ask her Mother what they did when she was young...I know they took her to a specialist at Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville, TN.

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Reply #5 - Nov 3rd, 2009 at 9:58am
 
First off - I totally have your back on this one.

You don't need "just" a paediatric neurologist but one SPECIALISING in headache.

I cannot stress that enough.

I'm dismayed that your doctor would give your child propranalol without sending him for an MRI.

Headache in children is not common and to treat severe pain without looking for a cause properly is disturbing to say the least.

Pain of this severity should always be investigated with an MRI to rule out anything more insidious. This is not an option this is absolute necessity added to which, some meds can exacerbate some conditions so treating without determining exact cause is - well enough said.

Can you describe how your son behaves when he has an attack? How long do they last? What helps? Not just meds but other stuff too.

Remember, there are over 600 headache types and many symptoms overlap. You need to be absolutely accurate to get a good diagnosis and meds that will work as what works for one condition can kill in another.

Keep a headache diary. Monitor what your son is eating, what times of day he has attacks, duration, any observations at all, record everything you can. It can only help.

I am a cluster sufferer too. I have a son who suffers as well so I know EXACTLY where you are. If you want or need to talk send me a pm and I'll chat on msn or phone or whatever you want. I'll help in any way I can.

I don't want to overwhelm you with too much info or whatever in one post. Just know there are people here who understand your position and your son's and will help and support you - and hope with all our hearts that it turns out to be nothing but horrible sinusitus!

Please keep us updated and let us know how we can help

Helen
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Reply #6 - Dec 6th, 2009 at 10:41am
 
Does he vomit at all during these attacks or have a strong need to go to sleep? Complain about the light or noise? If so, these attacks could be migraines, my 7 y/o daughter suffers from chronic migraines. I hope you are able to get a proper diagnosis and help ease your son's pain.
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Reply #7 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 7:05pm
 
My son has been on propranolol since he was three and a half. The side effects are lowered heart rate and blood pressure. He was closely monitored and he did absolutely fine, until I believe he outgrew the max safe dosage, and had a major attack almost four weeks ago. The doc has change his med and we are now weaning him off the propranolol while we use the other. He seems to be doing fine so far with the current med. My advice to you is that you religiously continue the meds, and right on time, every day. One time we gave him half a dosage of his current med twice in a row, and the headache kicked in the very next day. I have decided that I would rather use the preventative than see him suffer and then have to bombard him with painkillers which dont quite work and also have side effects. Another thing is, when it gets real bad, he vomits all day and ends up dehydrated and in hospital, which is an outcome I really really want to avoid.

Hang in there, and good luck! Funny how these things make us appreciate every great day and blessing more!

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