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Some ramblings on the meaning of finding hope...
Nov 13th, 2009 at 11:14am
 
I'm posting this section as a separate thread as well as in my update, because if the concept/message I am sending can get through to even one person, can show even one person that they can do ANYTHING, then I will be doing the very thing I am meant to do in this universe.

After discovering how great it is to feel good again, to feel like ME again, and to remember that "hey, I like me" I did some writing and some planning to ensure success with the journey I've begun.  This is some of what I remembered about me, some of what I remembered about the things I like about me.

All my life I set pretty huge goals - I said I would finish high school in 4 years - at the time, in Canada, I was an 'advanced' hono(u)r roll student primed to go to University, which required FIVE years of high school - you had to complete grade 13.  While I didn't actually graduate - that's a story for another time, I did accomplish the goal I set out to do - I had my grade 13 credits completed by my 4th year.  I was a competitive gymnast from being wee little.  In high school I was on the gymnastics team as well as coached the little kids;  I made up my mind I was going to get good enough to go all Ontario, and that I was going to be the coach of the high school team that took our entire team to the championship.  I did just that.  I made all Ontario for balance beam, and in my 12th grade year, I was co-captain with Kathy Mathis of the entire high school team.  The championship competition was being hosted for the first time at OUR high school, and I had broken 2 fingers and kept missing my turn catch on the uneven bars.  I had decided to drop out of the uneven bar event so as not to jeopardize the team with a poor score.  Well I was talked into doing it anyway - and I'll be damned, I made the catch even with my two fingers taped together.  That presented a wee problem.  I didn't know how to continue the routine from a catch, I'd always missed.  So I had to drop to the floor, turn around and remount the bars and complete my routine as if I HAD missed.  I scored a whopping 1.9 out of 10.  WDSS (my high school) won the championship - BY ONE POINT - message here? the smallest of contributions from anyone at all can be the deciding factor between winning and losing.  I was also a swimmer and was training to be a lifeguard.  I grew up on the St. Clair River and had seen 3 people drown because they did not know how to swim well enough and because there was no one other than my father who was trained and capable of rescuing a drowning victim.  I decided I was never going to see another person drown and set about my Royal Life Saving Society of Canada training to get certified as a life guard.  At that time, certification was the Bronze Medallion - it changes regularly - Bronze Cross, Bronze Star, Bronze Medallion etc. - but the requirements are always the same.  The goal however was not just to get my certification, it was to get it BY THE TIME I WAS 16.  I've already told you I was a competing gymnast at the same time, coaching the little kids, and cramming 5 years of high school into 4...getting the picture here?  Well this is where the first obstacle reared it's ugly head.  The law says you cannot be certified by the RLSSC before the age of 16.  Oh shit.  I have just committed myself to being certified by the time I was 16!!!  It took some doing, but I managed to get my coach and instructors to go to bat for me, the Bronze medallion certification course began in September 1983, and finished Feb 15th 1984.  I turned 16 Feb. 6 1984.  We did a lot of finagling but the RLSSC relented and allowed me to take the course and then write the certification exam and do the water certification as I would BE 16 when I did those things.  Cross another accomplished goal off the list.

Here's the thing.  On November 11th I saw Dr. Finkel and I got a brand new opportunity to make my life good again.  The change has been incredibly dramatic and extreme.  From ready to join my cat in the afterlife on Nov. 10th to ready to take on the world on Nov. 11th.  Doesn't make a lot of sense really.  Sure a pill can help, but it shouldn't be able to do all that!  My feel good pill didn't bring on this epiphany, it simply let me feel like me again, just long enough for me see something in me that I had always known, the thing about me that I really like.  Dr. Finkel has done his part, and now I'm doing mine.  All the drugs in the world cannot create success if the process is one sided.  I have to do my part in this journey as well.  I've laid the ground work as best I can at this moment, to ensure my success.  The option of suicide is not an option. "Too bad, so sad, you don't get to quit.  You've achieved goals that were considered impossible and you did it because you simply were too dumb to know there was any tiny possibility you could fail."

This journey is the exact same thing as all the other goals and achievements.  I KNOW with 100% absolute certainty that I am going to succed in this journey.  How do I know?  Why am I so certain?  Because I have Dr. Finkel, and I have a great support network, and every fiber of being in everyone of those people has screamed at me that it's simply IMPOSSIBLE to fail in this journey;  The universe has made it quite clear that I'm once again too dumb to know that there is any possibility of failure out there.  It's that simple.

So, here's to success and happiness, and a brand new beginning to my life that was once filled every day with joy and love and challenges that I thrived on and loved overcoming (cause I was too dumb to know I could lose them), and now can, and WILL be that way again.  There's something to be said for being dumb when it comes to certain things Wink

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Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2009 at 12:31pm
 
I thankyou for this great message. I will be reading this again.

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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2009 at 4:13pm
 
Sometimes too few docs have the experience for given time to study the anatomy of hope, also.   Smiley
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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2009 at 6:30pm
 
Most people can grasp the meaning of “I felt like myself again” I think only people like us who suffer a pain that alters you to the core. When I read this it made me remember what it felt like to be me and how happy I am when those times occur. You are correct, giving up is not an option and we just have to live for those times that we do actually feel like ourselves and enjoy those times to the fullest, attacking life at full speed and making the most of those PF times as short or as long as we are lucky to have.
Don’t take PF time for granted, if you are PF even for an hour get out and do something and smile bigger than anyone else in the room. I wish you all some PF time this weekend positive vibes to all.
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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2009 at 10:18am
 
I love your 'ramblings', Cat.
You even sound like your old self again.
This turn of events gives me a big smile!!!

Love to you,
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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2009 at 10:51pm
 
Just think what could be accomplished if everyone were as dumb as you!

Love ya Cat, and am so glad you are back on the right track.  I've missed you around here.

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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2009 at 11:12pm
 
Callico wrote on Nov 14th, 2009 at 10:51pm:
Just think what could be accomplished if everyone were as dumb as you!

Love ya Cat, and am so glad you are back on the right track.  I've missed you around here.




Cat...your msg had me in tears (good ones)...I've thought long and hard how to reply....typically it would be paragraphs....but Jerry said it all in a couple of sentences...thank you brother....be well sister...

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Reply #7 - Nov 15th, 2009 at 2:56am
 
Congratulations on finding a great doctor and taking responsibility for yourself!  It is great that you are encouraged and have hope.  I am wishing that it continues for you after the amphetamines because as you said, it sounds like an extreme and dramatic change in 1 day.  Enjoy your happiness, but be cautious with that drug.  I am saying this to you as I would say to my own daughter...I would be concerned for her.

Sorry if this is one of those mom things kids don't want to hear.  Just be careful.

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Reply #8 - Nov 15th, 2009 at 6:05am
 
Joni  I can't tell you how I appreciate your advice and caring for my good friend and soul sister Cat. She and I have been friends forever - literally!

She and I have talked long and hard on the phone and we have a "network" in place of people keeping an eye on her how, with her knowledge and input. We are all watching for things she won't see herself and we're ready. We're checking daily!

The other thing I can state categorically after the last few months of a very different Cat - is that this change isn't chemical. This isn't "just" happy pills. This is happy Cat. This is a Cat who isn't carrying an enormous burden alone anymore. The burden is still there, it isn't gone. She still has all of us helping her carry it but the difference now is she has someone with a map helping her get out of hell.

We can all do so much - and we do - we love Cat dearly.. but she's needed expert help, meds that will work and a plan of action and now she has it.

Her delirium is understandable and the biggest pleasure I have had in a very long time. I'm so truly happy for her and - for all of us because you know one of the best things is I am not just happy for Cat now. I have hope for me and you and all of us!

Hope is contagious!

Hey Cat - I love you lady and I am delirious myself every time I "hear" you laughing at me on the phone again in my mind! It's my favourite song right now!  Smiley
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Reply #9 - Nov 15th, 2009 at 10:56am
 
Joni, you are absolutely correct to urge caution and express concern.  This drug is not something that can be taken lightly.  It's an amphetamine.  There are risks with it, as with any drug, including dependence.  Doc Finkel and I went over every aspect of this.  It isn't for a long term treatment, it's short term for a very specific use, and the science and medical rationale behind it was fully explained and makes so much sense it almost seemed ridiculous no one had thought of it before.

Amphetamines are prescribed to ADD/ADHD patients, Adderall is prescribed at a typical dose of 30mg, I am on dextroamphetamine 5 mg.  It's a fairly low dose, and the way it works is to give what I call a 'juice boost' to the seratonin, norephinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine levels as well as the next level down to the calcitonin gene related peptides.  I've been doing advocacy for CH for many years now, and have extensive papers on the various theories and causative considerations involved with CH.  SSRI's and SNRI's are often prescribed for us, both for CH for the speculation that seratonin is involved, and for the natural depression that results from severe pain over an extended period.  The problem with those medications is they take a fairly long time to work for a clusterhead.  And an eternity to work for a patient who scored so high on the BDA test it indicated I should have already killed myself.  So the dextro is to give a boost to those chemicals that govern mood and pain and allow them to normalize and regulate.  The brain has a regulatory system that mandates regulation of those chemicals if, say, dopamine is released in large quantities too often.  It's well documented in methamphetamine users - the amount of dopamine released is staggering, and that euphoria is what hooks people.  Unfortunately, the receptors can't reuptake that much.  Eventually, the brain will literally kill the cells that give off the dopamine in order to try to regulate the amount.

So yes, there is caution to be used.  A great deal of it.  As Helen said, there is a network in place to make sure I don't do anything stupid at any end of the spectrum.  The immediate 'watchers' know me so well that I cannot fool them through voice, in person, or through black squiggles on a computer.  They have every possible means of contact to Clark and will use it any time day or night and can reach him anywhere.  I also have the family here to make sure I stay true.

The idea behind all this is to allow the amphetamines to get my mood back to a somewhat stable position so that whatever the next phase in treatment is will have a much much better chance of succeeding.  There is a significant and scientific, medically rational argument behind this that was explained to me, but it's part of ongoing research and I really don't think it's my place to start telling the world about it.  No doubt there will be papers published and it will be shouted from the mountain tops when it's evidenciary based and documented data.  Right now it's very much like the busters, it's got a huge pool of anecdotal data, but medicine likes evidence.

What I can tell you is that I don't get 'high'.  Although Doc Finkel said more than once a little bit of euphoria is not a bad thing LOL.  I prefer my euphoria to be natural.  High on life kind of stuff.  It's why I posted the story of impossibles.  I am a person who gets a natural high from being told you can't, it's impossible, it will never happen, etc. and proving them wrong.  It's that part of me that I remembered exists - that I was able to tap into again.  THAT is what is bringing about the dramatic change, the drug was simply a catalyst that allowed me a momentary reprieve to see that.  If that didn't already exist in my personality, it wouldn't have shown up.

I have been laid flat by blow after blow in life over the last 15 months.  It is unreasonable to expect that I am going go from that state to taking on the world overnight.  I want to, but it would be foolish and disastrous.  So, I have gone from laid flat to all fours.  Next step will be to crawl, then to stand, then to walk then to run, then I'll take over the world.  I feel good, I am feeling like me again, and I am thankful for that every minute and every minute I feel that way builds upon itself ensuring the same for the next minute.  I am being very realistic with this process, and am cautiously optimistic.  I have a plan of attack for the next month.  That's all.  I have no cure all, no permanent fix, no sure fire gonna make it all better treatment.  What I have is hope.  A doctor that understands me as a friend would rather than as a patient.  And together, we have a plan for the next month and it's a feasible plan, and it will have bumps in the road, and I know that.  Being aware is enough for me, I can deal with what is coming if I know it's coming.  Doc Finkel did his part, now it's my turn to go to work.  And make no mistake, it's work.  No medication in the world can give you sustainable hope and happiness.  And those things require effort, flexibility, persistence, perseverance, a positive attitude and a dose of realistic optimism.  All that takes some effort and work when you are in the dumps and feeling really down.  I am simply going to continue to build on each and every positive feeling and action, and in doing so, success is inevitable. 

A tenet I've always believed is it's impossible to fail in the journey of life - there is no destination to reach so you can't fail by not reaching it - life is the journey - and as long as you've lived, you've succeeded.  HOW you live your life is what determines your level of contentment and happiness, and each of us has a different set of criteria for that.  I know what mine are, and I've been given a reprieve from the depths of hell to see that criteria and remember "Oh yeah, that's what I do...that's who I am....shit, I better get a move on".

Do NOT ever apologize for stating a concern or something that you feel is a danger, or even a criticism - human beings require that kind of feedback as social creatures.  Without it, I shudder to think what some would end up doing.  It's one thing to be too dumb to know you can fail, it's altogether different to be too dumb to know that jumping off that cliff will kill you.  There's a fine line to walk, I'm just a person who has achieved some things for the simple reason that I simply did not once consider, or even have it occur to me, that I might not succeed.  I'm just applying that same thing to this process.

Cat

egads, I am glad I didn't author war and peace, it would have been 3 times longer.  See what you all get for me feeling like me again? Tongue Cheesy
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Reply #10 - Nov 15th, 2009 at 12:19pm
 
LeLimey-It is comforting to know there are such great friends and supporters as you!  Cat is very lucky!  You are right, it is a balancing act with compassion and strength in helping others through any crisis regardless of the relationship (parent/child, friend/friend, spouse/spouse, etc.)  And each person's needs is varied so the scale is always balancing.

Cat-I'm so glad you have LeLimey, friends, and family to support you!  That is priceless!  I am also happy to know that you have such a good understanding of the medications and biological processes as well as a great doctor.  Most of all, I am encouraged that you feel better and hopeful that we all learn something from you and Dr. Finkel.  Please keep us posted!

Accepting and considering other perspectives makes you are a good critical thinker, Cat.  That will take you far in life!  However, I still have this little voice in me wanting to say I'm sorry for being the one with a cautionary perspective.

Good luck!  You and Lelimey are precious!
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