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I am not alone..... (Read 4742 times)
LeLimey
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Re: I am not alone.....
Reply #25 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 6:11pm
 
Hi Andy, PM sent with full details - hope it helps!
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Reply #26 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 3:27pm
 
Hi Helen - thanks for recommending a good Neurologist at the QMC. I  am seeing my GP n Monday 30th Nov ( i wrote him a 3page A4 size letter & passed it on to receptionist to give to him) marked it Private & Confidential in big letters & high lighted it to make sure it will be him that only reads it (otherwise the receptionists open it & put it in any Dr's "in " tray. I gave him a full account of everything (as you know they cant hardly wait to get you out - or you forget something) I will make sure i have another note to leave with the Dr so he can refer me to Dr Evangelou - I cant tell you how happy its made me to get a name of a good Neurologist.
I had been 7days pain free but starting from wednesday its been coming back - on & off throughout the day, each day that as passed the pain intensity has increased - last night up untill i went to bed 12.30 its was kip 5/6 - was thinking will it be the worst one last....i am nervous about it (its a massive relief to know what it is but at the same time i cant quite get my head round it) thats mainly because for many years its always been a headcold coming on which brings on another sinus infection or its spring/summer, infected sinus from that. I'm trying to look for  pattern/cycle with it but  - its like looking at it with different eyes now. And its THE KNOWING that the big one will come....starts 1am ish and is kip10+ , lasts up to 3hrs, completley goes but comes back once more or twice & that would the end of it for me except for a few lingering shadows (as its called here) for a few days after then its completely gone .....its that time i'm really scared of now!!! I know it sounds stupid when i'v had it for so long but stupid as it sounds i was in my own way, unaware the big would always comes (usually had 2/3 attacks a year which is why i suspose it was diagnosed at chronic sinusitus)
Its this year thats changed everthing - since feb i have had a attack every month, being 10days free at the most then starting again. Its not always 10kip+ - it builds up to that over 2/3wks - getting shorter attacks to start with last few mins at a time but kip2/3 but bearable because their reasonable short. The one's i had last night  was lasting up to 20mins pain 5/6 up to 8/9 - didnt think i would get to sleep but i did eventually - and the big one didnt come. I thought it would last night - so i wait....
I had been at the end of my tether - no strength left - was ready to give up (i was calling it a day with my other half as well, i kept trying to explain to him the agony of this pain but  he just dismissed it) at times have not wonted to be here no more - i dont mean it now of course but when its bad your mind doesnt/cant think and that knife as shouted at me many times recently just to "CUT IT OUT-CUT IT OUT"
I'm hoping that it will stop soon and go back to be a episode cluster head Lol!!! You have to laugh or you would defiantly go barmy.
I will ask my GP if he will prescribe the injections & the oxygen but i dont hold up much hope yet - i think he will wont be to be "officially" diagnosed first by the neurologist ...so i will just hang in there.
I told my boss the other day (after they asked me about when i would be having the operation for my deviated septum) i knew obv they was only asking becuz they are wondering how much time i wud have off!!!  Well i told them that was on hold for now, because having that corrected could possible cause nerve damage & that after taking my full symptoms he diagnosed me with Cluster Headaches - i told her a little bit about how bad its been for me this past year, that its something i'v had for over 20yr & i told her what Cluster headaches are - i could practically see her eyes roll...the look saying Yea,alight,as if!!!!" Was totally uninterested - didnt believe it could be much painful than migraine. I dont think i will be mentioning to any others.
How long have you had clusters - how do your cycles go for you - what are your symptoms? Hope you dont mind me asking? Its just that it helps me to have more of a understanding and to know that symptoms do vary with others - and in some way it comforts me knowing the symptoms i have are the same as other suffers - that i know it is how the cluster cycle runs. Can i also ask is there anyone who as had it for a long time and has the years go by the symptoms get lighter and then disappear never to come back again. The thought of being a 60yr/70yr/80yr old and still having this agony come visit you when ever it wants - is just too much...i dont think i would have the same strength then to be able to get through it.
Anyway its time for me to order our Chinese takeway - its bliss not to cook for a change - then its a dvd to watch - just brought the new terminator  one - watched it at the cinema and its quite a good one. Bye for now - steph X
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Reply #27 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 5:22am
 
Hi again!

Well - your doctor is kind of on a sticky wicket with NOT prescribing you the injections given that he's already given you the pills - its the same drug, merely in a faster acting format (and a hell of a lot more expensive!)
If he doesn't want to prescribe I can 100% guarantee it will be on grounds of cost and thats unacceptable.

In the case he does say no, point out he has already prescribed imigran, all you are asking is for him to change the method of delivery and tell him if he refuses you will go to the PCT (Primary Care Trust)
They WILL overrule him and he'll get a slapped wrist too so I don't think he'll be overly keen to go that route.

Doctors sometimes get edgy with really expensive drugs (and Imigran is £126 per stat dose kit - two injections!) A  lot of them aren't aware (or are too lazy) that they can get extra money from the NHS for high cost patients so their budget isn't compromised. That's when you know if your surgery has a good practice manager or not!

As for Doctor Evangelou - I would be overjoyed if you get to see him, he's wonderful. His secretary is a lovely girl too and if you get an appt a long way away, ring QMC and ask to speak to Dr Evangelous' secretary and explain you're in pain and in cycle and can you be considered for any cancellation appts. She is so sweet and will absolutely do her best to fit you in too.

I know you've been reading here etc but I also know how much "overload" there is when you first find this place. Have you tried strong coffee or redbull when you can feel it building? It really helps. Don't sip either though, drink them as fast as you can! Sugar free or normal makes no difference by the way. I actually use Asda's own "Blue Charge" version of red bull as it's so much cheaper, frankly though, I don't like the taste of ANY of them!! (love the effect though!)

We all fear it coming back, you're not alone in that. It's overwhelming for you now to finally know what it is and to know there is treatment, hope and other people to talk to but I know how it is, there is still this small voice inside you that thinks - what if they're wrong? What if I don't have CH? I don't seem to have it like this one or that one? You can be full of doubt and fear, I know I was. I can't tell you how many times I went back to the doctor saying I had sinusitus just HOPING antibiotics would shift it. I really didn't want to believe the diagnosis and I just wanted a quick fix which of course - didn't happen!

You will get more confident, as you learn more and get better meds and realise you CAN cope and even more, that when it DOES come back, you can abort it.. you'll stop letting it have that power over you. It sounds very easy for me to say now, I'm sitting here telling you what to do - but I was new to all this and new to ch.com once too and I haven't forgotten exactly how confusing and scary it was and how I felt. I won't tell you I don't fear it sometimes now because I would be telling you a big fat lie but I CAN tell you that I do not think about it in between attacks (my own CH that is -everyone else's is different!! I'm allowed!) For me, the dread sets in when the shadowing starts and I cope by aborting it as soon as I can, whether it be with caffeine or O2.

As for your boss, you are covered under the disabilities at work act with CH so you can't be discriminated against because of it. They will have to count sickness due to CH separately to normal sickness so if ever you do have time off for it, make sure your sicknote is marked accordingly.

I've had CH for almost 15 years. Actually it's since two days after the birth of my second son and I can tell you to the day and minute when I had my first attack too! It was very "memorable" LOL Up to 2004 I was just having cycles every spring and autumn and then I went chronic and have been ever since. One "good" thing about being chronic is you don't fear it coming back at least. I use O2 as my main abortive because I love it, I love how fast it works for me and how little damage it does TO me and it's portable - I can take tanks with me wherever I go.

There are several people here who have had CH cease for them. It is thought that, as you get older, it diminishes so there is a lot of comfort in that. Right now the thought of it continuing for ever is particularly harrowing for you as you don't have effective meds yet, once you do, and it doesn't have such a hold over you - I promise you that it won't be nearly as important! You'll get defiant and you'll take your life back and you'll be damned if you waste a minute you don't have to!

The first time I tried Oxygen - Oh my God!! It worked!! And it worked so fast!! I really had my doubts about it, I couldn't see how just BREATHING could get rid of this AWFUL pain, but it did and I was absolutely euphoric - I wanted to phone all my friends! I wanted to stop people in the street and tell them, it was just so.. so incredible and so empowering. I wish I could bottle that feeling. It's indescribable. Its the best feeling there is. Having an "empty" head is just so wonderful LOL (Anyone else reading this - shut up now, do not say a word! I know where you live and I will flippin' thump you!)

I hope you enjoyed your chinese! I'm hungry now thinking of it but it's only 10:30am now and the rotten git's aren't open yet *pout*

Have a great Sunday
Helen
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Reply #28 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:24pm
 
Hi everyone - well i'v had my GP appointment today and i knew before i went it in,it would be a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME!!!
I wrote him a letter last week explaining everything - what Professor Nick Jones had said in his Otorhinolaryngology clinic (though i knew he knew that already as i had asked for copies of the letter that was sent to him) and i also tried to explain how bad the pain is when its at its worst. I requested the GP to do me a referral to see a specialist in Neurology (DR Evangelos who runs a clinic at the QMC hospital ) who was kindley recommended to me by Helen.
Well as soon has i got through the door i could feel the vibes - he said he had read my letter and that he wasn't happy about doing me a referral as i was already being seen by Professor Nick Jones at the QMC.
I said i was very grateful for the professor diagnosing me but i wanted to see a Neurologist who knows about Clusters so i can get it diagnosed officially & put onto my records & be able to get the correct treatment.
My GP refused - he offered to give me another script for the Sumatriptan tablets but that was it (which i refused) I had to wait untill i see Professor Jones on 24th Dec 9am in his Otorhinolaryngology clinic. My GP said that he doesnt go behind a another dr's back,especially someone has well respected has Professor Jones .And that he was more than well qualified to see me!!!
Well i disagreed with him some more but it made no difference - what more could i do??? He wasn't going to do a referral AND THAT WAS THAT!!!! No matter what i had to say it made no difference - i had to wait till i saw Professor Jones & see what he wanted to do next.
I am pissed off/upset/angry but i didn't expect any other after all i have read on here about GP's!!!! So i will plod on - hang in there until i see this Professor on the 24th dec.
I tell myself i'v had it this long that another few months will make no difference - at least i know what it is now - that i know it wont kill me - that i can try strong coffee/ice packs/hot running shower/red bull & a few other thing to try when a cycle starts again (thanks alot everyone for all the tips) i have been pain free 2days now and maybe i will be lucky and have no more for a few months ....
Its obvious to me the GP didnt take any notice at all about how bad the pain is - i know now from others that it is one of those things that you have to accept that if  NO ONE else has every felt this sort of pain that most just don't believe it and that includes GP's  Sad
Well i'm going off to lick my wounds now - the house is empty (my daughter working till 8pm/my partner diving in Scotland till 2mz) think i'm going to go and have 45mins on the crosstrainer/put on my ipod and get lost in my music for abit.
Sod em/fuck em all  Angry
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Reply #29 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 2:16pm
 
Steph if you want to pm me your number I'll call you and explain some options! I'm very pissed on your behalf and this is stopping now.
I know the 9th is only next week but even so, I want you armed to the teeth with info!

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Reply #30 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 12:30am
 
I am sorry steph. Doctors can be worthless at times. I remember when I asked for a referral to a specific doctor but my family doctor would not refer me outside the park nicollet clinics. So I had to see their neuro first. Finally I was able to find one that I have been using for a few years now. She was not bad but we had some differences. But am switching again. Thanks Helen. Hope you all the best in your fight.

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Reply #31 - Dec 19th, 2009 at 5:33am
 
Nov 17th .....was the 1st time i joined this forum under my name of "steph" - Dec 1st i un-joined LOL!!! I laugh but at the time i was totally exhausted & drained from the last few weeks...months..years. I have had CH for over 20yrs and have only recently found out what it was from a professor Jones at the QMC hospital in Nottingham. If you get chance to read or have read my previous emails on here you will know its pretty much the same story for everyone - misdiagnosed as seasonal sinusitis. This year i'v had a infection every month with around 10 free days before it starts again (though i'm relieved & pleased to say the last 10+ was the 11th oct) after that the shadows persisted on & off with pain 5/6 4/5 2/3 then pain free 7days then another cycle starting again and ending Nov 30th kip 7/8 then shadows over next weeks or so then PF. The last 3days have been getting shadows again - not bad 1/2 - stabbing pains in my left eye, snotty,water eyes etc, bearable.

Its a big learning curve for me - i found this wonderful forum & being honest....this place saved me. But the battle is still not over for me in the fact i am still fighting to be referred to a Neurologist - my own GP gutted me when i last went 2c him on 30th nov - i wanted him to refer me but untill Prof Jones (who diagnosed CH) had finished treating me - he REFUSED to refer me, even though i wrote him a letter before my appointment to see him, explaining everything and when i saw him i told him how long this as been - how bad the pain is but he just totally dismissed me. I felt exhausted & my soul was just drained with no energy - i felt that i was letting this CH take over my life, everything was revolving around it - my spare time was now taken with researching everything i could on it - i have told only a few but the reaction from most is not good, mainly i think is that no one believes ANYTHING can be THAT PAINFUL... but we all know on here it is.

I decided to call it a day - go away & lick my wounds for abit so i came off here - took my info about this off my facebook - didnt mention it again to no one. Like it never existed - in me - in anyone - in the world LOL LOL LOL but we all know it does, there's no running away from it and it sure has hell found me again LOl

I laugh bcuz u hav2 or go barmy, dont u???

Though i have been licking my wounds has i call it - i'v not given up. I have been working/keepin healthy with exercise, allowing myself to sit and think, to still learn about this beast  - 2accept that i will have to bang my head against this brick wall a few more times before it will start to crumble - AND IT WILL.

I see Prof Jones next thur 24th dec 9am - i'v sent him 4page a4 letter by post/by email/by fax and i will take a copy with me just "incase they all got lost" or he coudnt be bothered to read it all - going through EVERYTHING AGAIN - and am hoping when i get to see him he will have read it and have a understanding - will refer me on to Dr Nikos Evangelou (recommended to me by that wonderful, knowledgeable Helen) will wait with baited breath!!!

If i hit my head against a brick wall agaiin i will write to the PCT - i have copies of my letters/of referrals i'v had in the past to see eye specialist who couldnt find anything wrong/opticians where i'v had emergency appointments to see them becuz of this pain in my eye/dental app where i have even had 3teeth pulled on that side of my face - i have  copys of my OOH's that people ring when their GP practise is closed and you ring for advice (they send a photo copy to ur own GPS)
I work at a GP surgery myself & i can tell you most GPs no nothing of CH - i have spoken 2all 8 dr's and all of just think it a headache, abit like a migraine treated with the same type of medications & its not that painful LOL LOL LOL LOL
General Practitioners THATS WHAT THEY ARE & THATS WHAT WE HAVE 2REMEBER - they know a "little" about most things - ok for the most common ailments but anything else its their job to refer you.

Ohhh well enough of me moaning again - time 4me 2out my trainers on & go 4a run LOl x
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