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Jasmyn

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Nov 30^th, 2009 at 6:36am

Three years ago, for those who remember, I went cold turkey on all my meds. The imitrex, verapamil and ergot.

The Clusterbusters guided me through the alternative therapies and kept in touch to address the different dosages.

My clusters increased on the alternative therapy, I had Kip 8 to 10's sometimes 6 to 12 times a day. The thing is, these buddies stuck by me and then after I thought that there is no hope anymore, a BREAKTHROUGH!

A few weeks of hell and suddenly after the last scary LSD dosage and a trip to the other side of midnight, that felt like it would last for ever, the Demon left!

I was scared sh*tless because:
Did it work?
Did my cycle just end naturally?
When will it come back?
May I sleep?
Can I say anything about it yet?

So, I waited and waited and waited. Two years passed, I came back to the site. Cryptically I explained.

I have waited another year, just to confirm. My clusters are gone, after all those years of no hope, of no life, of constant battles, fear and pain and tons of medication, I am alive!

I don't care anymore. They can lock me up for all I care, actually admitting this on a public forum but alternative treatments should become legal. Yes, under a doctors supervision. This will prevent us from acting like criminals to get help and allow those who want to try it to go through the experience in a controlled environment.

The day we can get booked in hospital, get the bloody treatment and go home like with any other disease, would be a victory in my book.

There is hope.

Cheers Jazz

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Re: LSD
Reply #1 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 9:57am

Hi, Jasmyn - Welcome back. And congratulations. What a feeling.

Dr. Halpern is currently working on a compound called 2-Bromo LSD (or BOL). It is LSD with a bromine atom attached that renders it non-hallucinogenic but still does the same thing you describe. I hope and pray it (and he) will be our guiding light out of the woods. Since it is non-hallucinogenic, we're all hoping it will be on the fast track to FDA approval.

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coach_bill CH.com Hall of Famer Offline "Dont expect me to lay down for this" Posts: 680 x0\|euclid\|USA\|\|0\|0\|OH,Ohio Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #2 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 9:09pm Jas, Glad to hear your back to your life, And i dont think the MAN wants to mess with us. See then it would be up to them to flip the bill for all the meds (lol). And im not sure if they sell Imetrex at the prison commasary. Here's to the other side... Coach Bill
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Callico CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Author of "Stranded at Romson's Lodge Posts: 4916 Aurora IL Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #3 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 9:22pm Great news! Thanx so much for passing it along. It gives the rest of us hope. Really hoping Dr Halpern is able to get things fast tracked and funded. Jerry
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lorac CH.com Old Timer Offline Imagine Posts: 433 Tennessee Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #4 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 8:53am Thanks Jasmyn. I can relate to your story. I am in month 5 of my cycle, and have never had more than 3 months cycle before.... I am with seeds in hand, and have not dared to take the leap of faith, and wean myself off the meds. You give me some hope and strength.
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MattyAA CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 242 Poland, EU Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #5 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 10:23am Seeds even in number 100 taken at once, wouldn't create hallucinations, only you would feel nauseous.
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Reply #6 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 10:50am

MattyAA wrote on Dec 1^st, 2009 at 10:23am:

Seeds even in number 100 taken at once, wouldn't create hallucinations, only you would feel nauseous.

The point I was trying to make is that a non-hallucinogenic form would have a much higher chance of being approved by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). That's how drugs become available via prescription over here - they have to be FDA-approved first.

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Reply #8 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 2:38pm

Racer1_NC wrote on Dec 1^st, 2009 at 1:39pm:

I tend to disagree......take enough of them and you'll feel something other than sick.

Everybody and every batch is different. I've taken 30 and felt a slight body buzz and at another time took 80 and felt nothing, but nauseous. I've never ever tripped from them. Shrooms on the other hand, heck yeah, but that was recreationally years ago.

When the PAIN starts, I FIGHT back!

Rivea Corymbosa seeds were my KO punch, now D3 is the front runner!

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MattyAA CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 242 Poland, EU Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #9 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 5:40pm I am no specialist but what is average containing of LSA in each seed? And what part of one average shroom is it in potency scale? This way you can do average calculation, but probably seed potency has wide range of LSA, can be none, or can be really a lot average of normal 5 seeds.
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Reply #10 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 6:40pm

Jasmyn, so happy you have been PF this long. I really hope it was the LSD that ended your pain. This is something I am interested in trying someday.
I did LSD back when I was, well, let's say much younger, and wonder now if it kept the CH's from nailing me at a younger age as I was in my early forties before I got CH's. Huh

Just a thought.
PF wishes forever Jasmyn!

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Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 8:09pm

With all the posts regarding LSD, shrooms, and RC seeds, I'm wondering about the lack of posts of peoples experience using baby wood rose seeds. I can recall several trips using ground up and capped HBWR seeds in the early 70's that rivaled LSD so I assume they must contain a significant amount of LSA like RC seeds and I know that they are also offered on iamshaman.

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Reply #12 - Dec 1^st, 2009 at 8:42pm

Not to sidetrack Jazz's post any further, but.......

Denny - HBWR seeds were too much work for me. The LSA is in the seed pod inside and the stuff that makes you feel sick is the outer hull. I used to slice them open and pry out the center nut.

With RC Seeds, I just grind, soak and drink the sludge.

FWIW - I've tried up to 20 HBWR seeds and well over 100 RC's and never felt anything but a bit sleepy.

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Reply #13 - Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 5:15am

Thanks guys for the well wishes.

The thing is, as you remember and for those who don't know me, I lived in Mozambique, Africa at the time.

It is easier to experiment and get "stuff" in a third world country.

I was actually on LSD from the Netherlands(the purest stuff) and overdosed on the last trip (If you can ever overdose on LSD!?)

The thing is that I was not a responsible adult due to the extreme hits I got. Actually I was quite out of my mind with pain and desperation that night.

btw. I am mostly out of my mind but that is besides the point. LOL

The contributing factor was that I had nearly a bottle of clean Vodka on top of that trip.

I do not condone my actions but I need to explain:

I cannot drink a drop of alcohol during a cycle.
I am not a drug addict as I love to be in control.
I hated the trips because I couldn't make them stop, they had to run their course.
This is scary if you are doing this alone.
You cannot get hooked on LSD, as I used it for a few weeks and have never done it again, and I have an addictive personality as I cannot stop smoking after many attempts. But I never had a craving for it since.

The whole argument is, even if it is LSA or LSD, it should be legal and supervised. I believe every person with clusters will need different dosages to alter the brain chemistry to halt this disease.

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Posted by: Brew Posted on: Nov 30th, 2009 at 9:57am
Hi, Jasmyn - Welcome back. And congratulations. What a feeling.

Dr. Halpern is currently working on a compound called 2-Bromo LSD (or BOL). It is LSD with a bromine atom attached that renders it non-hallucinogenic but still does the same thing you describe. I hope and pray it (and he) will be our guiding light out of the woods. Since it is non-hallucinogenic, we're all hoping it will be on the fast track to FDA approval.

Thanks this might just be our answer.

Jazz Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 6:51am

I was late teens, early 20's when I was doing Mushrooms, LSD and pot for recreational use. It was fairly plentiful and of good quality and it was what our group of friends were into. I am 50 now.
I never had a headache in my life of any kind until I got into my 30's then I developed migraines, "the pulse till you puke headache" I called them.
Then when I got into my early 40's the migraines just left and then a new pain surfaced, which my neuro diagnosed them being CH's.
I am just wondering if the Mushrooms and LSD altered my CH cycle when I was younger? I was able to track down some s'rooms last summer and did 3 separate doses and although the shadows are daily and some entering low level hits I still am not in cycle and this is past my time, I should be getting labeled right now.
I really have faith that there is a drug of some kind that will stop the cycle, maybe for good and maybe the 2-Bromo LSD might just be the ticket.
Anybody else with a similar experience? Jasmyn's story on her success sure has my attention right now and wishing her and everyone PF wishes forever.
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Reply #15 - Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 11:32am

Congrats, Jasmyn, a wonderful story you have there - one which in my opinion should help keep us all chanting BOL! BOL! BOL!

The CH killing benefits of LSD without the tripping? I'll take it. Cool

CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #16 - Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 6:38pm Also in case you missed this, National Geographic did a show on LSD. Here is the link to the preview. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Jasmyn CH.com Alumnus Offline Each day will be a new trick in life's journey Posts: 2805 Australia Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #17 - Dec 3^rd, 2009 at 5:06am Quote: Posted by: barry_sword Posted on: Yesterday at 6:38pm Also in case you missed this, National Geographic did a show on LSD. Here is the link to the preview. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Great Stuff, THANKS!
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zanychef CH.com Junior Offline i'm busting with a masx cant really go wrong can i Posts: 97 x1\|worthing\|England\|europe\|172\|244\| Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #18 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 5:49am wahayyyy Jazz wtg!!!!!!! luv ya loads zany
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Jeannie CH.com Sponsor Offline Live, Laugh, Love.... Posts: 2333 St Louis, Missouri Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #19 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:04am What wonderful news, Jazz! Thank you for sharing your story! I am in the process of trying RC seeds for the first time. My third dose will be tonight. Your and others' stories of success continue to give me hope and courage. May you continue to be PF! Jeannie
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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #20 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 12:55pm Jeannie, I really pray the seeds work for you. PF wishes heading your way!
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Reply #21 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 1:36pm

Jeannie wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:04am:

What wonderful news, Jazz! Thank you for sharing your story! I am in the process of trying RC seeds for the first time. My third dose will be tonight. Your and others' stories of success continue to give me hope and courage.

May you continue to be PF!

Jeannie

Best of luck Jeannie!

Also, thanks for reminding me. I haven't dosed in about 2 months and i'm due for a maintenance dose.
I guess i'll crush up my usual 25-30 when I get home and start soaking.

Have a great weekend

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MJ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 1205 x1\|\|USA\|usa\|299\|85\|MN Gender:	Re: LSD Reply #23 - Dec 8^th, 2009 at 1:02am Very cool Jazz. Living life is wonderful. A clear mind free of CH just makes it even better.
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