Thank you, Marc. I think you are one of the few who actually got it. I know that CH's themselves won't kill me, nor do I want to do. I just sometimes feel like I do so much harm to my body w/all the neds I use to try to abort a headache. I've already got scripts that were recommeded for only so many a day, or week, but with the frequency and intesity of the headaches I'd end up abusing it. The docs want to give me the strongest, most effective meds, but they definitely don't work in small doses(sometimes I question if they do at all) and are only recommended for like 2-4 pills a day. (usually you need to take 2 at a shot) When you got several headaches a week, meds just don't seem safe. But it's hard to not take SOMETHING to tryto get rid of that pain.

Oh, yeah. I guess in a way I do fear the headache, but it's the pain I need to deal with. I've come to terms with the fact that I hav to live with this shit, but it still doesn't make it any easier to deal with the helll when I get a headache. I might be new to this sight, and I'm thankful for it, but I've been dealing with these headaches for 16years now. The only difference now is I finally have someone else to share my nightmares with who really understands, which is a great help.

We may be able to help you more if we knew what you are taking for your attacks? Pain meds are not aborts for CH. In fact they can make it worse.

If you are taking Imitrex pills, they are too slow to abort CH. We need injections or inhalers to abort quickly. And yes I use O2 as my #1 abortive, so I rarely need anything else to stop a hit.

Few Dr's know much about CH and the best treatments, so educating yourself about them is in your best intrest. We can help with that.

Please forgive me if I've misunderstood your posts.

Don

I understood right off the fear was based on OD or mixing meds..

There may be times for meds, but when there is a known abort with the use of o2 that to me is best.

I didn't post once yesterday, I was resting, from too many hours moving th beast around.

I didn't like the patter that was evolvong, so I stayed awake late into night. Friday night I stayed up to 3, passing the beasts time and it hit at 5 AM instead.. I just got up and went to the barn, sat in my chair in the cold and did o2.

I lost a lot of sleep, but wasn't in very much pain.

Last night i slept all night with no beast.. I know it will be back, and i will move it from what ever times it comes again...

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echogirl, got O^2??

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Is that not allowed?

No, I guess it's allowed. It just didn't answer the ueston at hand, that's all. I asked people if they were ever afraid that they might overdose trying to control their headaches, ei..taking too many aborts for example, and some people responded with, " CH's can't kill you" Which I already knew, and it totally didn't answer the question. That's all.

echogirl, I am episodic, and in mid war I guess. I don't keep a calandar. I know i should, but just have problems with papers and words recorded on them.

About now what happens with me is I get these, get up , go kill it and try to get back to sleep. If I can then vivid in color dreams happens and the next hit wakes me around 2 hours later.

The dreams confuse me to the point that sometimes i can't tell which is real.

So far I have only been interested in methods to abort, as I don't want to be on pills for a overly long time. I don't like pills either.

IMO no pills will be fast enough for any abort.

Last night I had 3 attacks, but the 2nd one was the worst. Kip 8 I guess, and the part that bugged me was it seems for a while o2 wasn't going to kill it. It did, but it took a bit more time.

As usual I went walking out in the garden and around in the field awhile. The moon was out and it was icey cold. While walking the beast made a wee replay, and I went back in the barn and got rid of it.

Knowing a few things from others here and having o2 on hand makes a lot of difference. It isn't likely I will ever see Kip 9 and 10's again, so long as I have o2 on hand.

I can't speak for others, but I find with me if I take inject trex it will extend my weeks. That meds also makes me wishy washy.. Just 1/3rd of the vial is all I need to abort, but then it just adds to mre problems.

The very first time I used that injector I used the whole 6 mg's dose, and that was a big mistake for me. It got rid of the ch no problem, but I was left in bed feeling as if I were drowing..

That almost scared me, but being a x drug addict I felt able to still be in some minor form of controll and so made sure to stay awake.

I think most people here that use trex injections, us 1/3rd the vial at a time, getting 3 doses for the 1 vial. I had the stuff, but haven't used it in years.

If I did 2 things would bother me, one is the extended time, and the other is being a coward, and not taking the problem head on.

The last reason isn't a very good reason, but the first reason sure is.

I haven't abused drugs in 3 decades, and don't plan to start that new any time soon. I am a little rugged guy, and have been hurt before, so I know since this is just pain I can deal with it now.

What I would like to find is a local plant I can get in the woods here, that in the normal couse of eatting, could be added, and in a way that CH would just be a thing from my past history. Something that seemingly does nothing, and for sure has no after effects. That is just a dream.

Probably my attitude is because I can controll the pain to not over Kip 8, as after than there is no more control, the beast has you, and will shake you out like a wet rag doll. The o2 cuts the time of real pain, as well, so this ends with me left in better shape over all.

Before I came here, and before I knew what was wrong with me I had Kip 10's and those turned me into gray mush.

I may have a few weels more of this insanity, but then it will end till Spring. Spring may or not briong Ch back, I can never tell.

Sometimes I skip spring and or fall, but I can never tell before it happens.

Got o2 yet?