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EVER FEEL MISUNDERSTOOD?
Dec 5th, 2009 at 11:30am
 
Sometimes I feel like, nobody understands what I go through. (Except others suffering with CH) I mean, my fiance, whom I live with, is somewhat compassionate, but he acts like it's just another bad headache...and virtually everyone gets headaches, right? I don't know. I feel like he thinks I exaggerate the pain, or maybe just can't handle it. Hell, I had three kids naturally, and grew up w/ four brothers who did a lot more than rough house me. I can take pain...just not this. I'm glad I have people like you guys who understand, but I wish he could or would TRY to understand that the hell I go through is NOT made up, or exaggerated in the least( I wish it was) It's a complete nightmare that robs me of sleep and peace of mind. All I ask for is understanding, and a blow to the head to knock me out during an attack (ok, I made that last part up) I mean, I've even had friends say, "She's faking another headache again so she doesn't have to hang out. I mean, who gets a headache within 5 min.", or" Hey, I get migraines. You haven't had a headache until you've had a migraine If I can deal with them, you can deal w/your headache." You know, sometimes I wish that they would all have just ONE CH. I'd never wish anyone to have them plague them over and over. Just one real good one so they know what it's like. That would shut them up. Angry
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Reply #1 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 11:41am
 
Maybe you should quit whining and be proactive.  Get a real diagnosis from a Neurologist and get on with your life.

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Reply #2 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 12:06pm
 
I have been proactive. I've tried numerous preventives and abortives, but still no remedy. I also have been diagnosed
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Reply #3 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 12:15pm
 
Which ones haven't you tried?
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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 12:28pm
 
Potter wrote on Dec 5th, 2009 at 11:41am:
Maybe you should quit whining and be proactive.  Get a real diagnosis from a Neurologist and get on with your life.

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What is with this trolling on the board, having bad day today? Tongue
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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 12:43pm
 
In the OUCH site are a couple of letters which you can give to all your friends and family. They explain the nature of the headache, etc.

In the end, however, even giving your friends factual information will leave some of them in the same place that they are now.

What you are dealing with is NOT their knowing or not knowing about CH: You're confronting their character, their lack of capacity to  accept your distress even though they may not understand it. We all have problems understanding experiences which are beyond our personal experience but we expect some compassion, some giving of support and caring, even in such situations.

I can give you an academic/therapist's explanation for why people like this are as they are. But in the end, neither of us will change them. You can only protect yourself by withdrawing from the sources of your disappointment. Whatever these people are in your life, they are not "friends".

My old dog has a terrible fear of thunderstorms. My brother's dog was staying with us a few days when such a storm hit. My guy hid in fear. I found my brother's dog draped along his back; her head on his head, clearly soothing him. Neither of them understand storms and why fear but she gave the dog version of compassion, staying with him for the duration of the storm. There is a lesson here for all of us.
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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 1:07pm
 
I found myself smiling while reading your post - relating to it I mean.

Before I was diagnosed I used to say things to my friends like I've got to get x done by ten as I'll have my headache at 11 and won't be able to do anything then until after one.
I used to get hit every day between 11 and 1 and then between 5 and 7 in the evening. Regular as clockwork and I was out of my head with pain and fear. I wouldn't let anyone near me.

When I got my diagnosis I'd actually been hospitalised. My ex had called the doc who had called an ambulance. He thought I was having a stroke or an aneurism. Scared the living daylights out of the poor man.
I was taken in and had an MRI and a cat scan and a neuro came to tell me I didn't have anything "scary"
Based on my autonomic symptoms  and what he had observed himself I had CH.

I remember to this day being utterly mortified. I can't tell you how embarrased I was. Making all this fuss over a "headache". I remember thinking "Bloody hell, couldn't I at least have had migraines?"

Half the problem is that word "headache" It sounds so dismissive.
Sadly the other half is intolerance, misunderstanding, selfishness or ignorance or a combination of all of them.

Try explaining the mechanism of CH to people. Tell them it's a vascular neurological condition in which the blood vessels on the affected side of your brain swell dramatically crushing the nerves around them. Tell them neurologists consider the pain to be worse than amputation without anaesthesia.

Tell them ordinary pain killers will not work. Even morphine isn't the right type of pain relief. The ONLY thing that will kill the pain is vaso constriction, bringing the blood vessels back down to "normal" size.

You are not a wimp. You are coping with a horrific pain and continuing to live your life.

Your friends and family are welcome to come here, we'll help them understand (one way or another  Wink )

More importantly though, we'll help you understand all you need to about this condition and how to cope with others too.

Hang in there! It's a big learning curve when you first find us, you'll get told a lot that just won't sink in but it will in time!

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Re: EVER FEEL MISUNDERSTOOD?
Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 1:19pm
 
MattyAA wrote on Dec 5th, 2009 at 12:28pm:
Potter wrote on Dec 5th, 2009 at 11:41am:
Maybe you should quit whining and be proactive.  Get a real diagnosis from a Neurologist and get on with your life.

         potter

What is with this trolling on the board, having bad day today? Tongue

It's called tough love, not trolling.

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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 2:04pm
 
Loved your dog story, Bob!!!
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Reply #9 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 2:39pm
 
Agreed. Great dog story Bob. Vietvet2tours isn't trying to be mean, he's just used to life as we ch sufferers all know it. You'll toughen up as the years go by just as he has. Unfortuantely, the ch isn't going anywhere and you oddly get used to it. When it's new and you've recently been diagnosed, your aren't sure whether or not to believe the doc that you're not dying. Nothing can hurt that bad and not be deadly it seems. People not understanding you gets more tolerable too. We all have good and bad days with our friends and loved ones meaning well but not really getting it or being as sympathetic as they could/should be. Think back to before this started. Would you have been able to imagine or believe a co-worker with this kind of story? People are just "blissfully" ignorant by accident cause they don't have a point of reference. Just today I was speaking with a girl over the phone I used to work with and made the mistake of saying that I was in the middle of a cycle right now. She says "Oh I know what your going through, I had a migraine a couple weeks ago". I wanted to strangle her. I had migraines before they upgraded to ch and would give anything to have those suckers back. I've learned to remain calm and change the subject. That day will come for you too. Promise. In the meantime, come to this site and stay with those who "get you". Lots of love to ya.
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Grandma always said "this too shall pass". But then again she didn't have ch so she didn't think to say "this too shall come again (and again) at the most inconvenient times".
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 3:34pm
 
It's really quite simple: You learn how to manage this thing or it will manage you.
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 5:42pm
 
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Not around here.   Wink  and that is why this site exists.

If someone expected me to know exactly what it feels like to have MS, I'd be at a loss too, although with my knowledge of MY  kind of pain I probably would not tell them to take 2 aspirins and go lie down.   Tongue
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Reply #12 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 6:31pm
 
Only when I foolishly try to make people understand a pain they can't begin to comprehend. Smiley It's like my wife trying to explain hot flashes to me!!!........as Bob put it, stop stressing over making people understand your pain, and put your efforts into learning to live with it...and as Brew said...manage it instead of letting it manage you.

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Smiley  Oh, Joe.  it was really nice knowing ya.

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Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2009 at 9:17am
 
A couple of weeks ago Helen described CH as a neurological condition in which the blood vessels swell on the affected side of the face, crushing the nerves and causing excruciating pain.  I’ve found describing it as that makes my university a little more sympathetic.  :p

As for friends, I suppose it’s when bad things happen that you really find out who are the proper ones. Sad  It sucks though!  I think most people, including non-CH here, have a set of people who are fair-weather friends.  It's just working out what different friends are capable and willing of coping with in your friendship with them.  Sad  You could try to work out periods that your likely to remain headache-free and go for a half hour coffee or something - so they don't feel neglected.  Also it'll give you a window into the pain-free outside!
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Reply #15 - Dec 7th, 2009 at 5:17pm
 
vietvet2tours , Yer welcomed to come borrow my spike bayonett any ol' time...  Grin

I got to play with it 3 times last night myself. That barn where my 02 is ain't gittin' any warmer.

My wife woke to find me on the bed in full blown winter gear with fuzzy Northface over pants and all on.. She just let me sleep til I woke up.

So far today I went to get metal, and the order was 1/2 filled, then ride my motor bike in the snow, to the barn, because I got too many chores, to get the bike put up fer winta'.

And since then I have been practicing to be a ZOMBIE in what ever the next flick is that needs any ZOMBIE'S.

I just had to pick on ya..


echogirl, you ain't got any friends... neither do I. My wife gets 'it', but no one else I know does. I know lots of folks, but none of them know what my problem is and I don't care to invest in the time to bother with it to them.

The only way they might understand is if you stab them in the eye with a ice pick, and somehow I don't see you ever doing that.

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Thanks for that viual, Mac. Grin
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If you end up doing that don't forgit to wiggle it atleast an hour... Grin
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Reply #18 - Dec 7th, 2009 at 8:26pm
 
Mac_Muz wrote on Dec 7th, 2009 at 5:17pm:
vietvet2tours , Yer welcomed to come borrow my spike bayonett any ol' time...  Grin

I got to play with it 3 times last night myself. That barn where my 02 is ain't gittin' any warmer.

My wife woke to find me on the bed in full blown winter gear with fuzzy Northface over pants and all on.. She just let me sleep til I woke up.

So far today I went to get metal, and the order was 1/2 filled, then ride my motor bike in the snow, to the barn, because I got too many chores, to get the bike put up fer winta'.

And since then I have been practicing to be a ZOMBIE in what ever the next flick is that needs any ZOMBIE'S.

I just had to pick on ya..


echogirl, you ain't got any friends... neither do I. My wife gets 'it', but no one else I know does. I know lots of folks, but none of them know what my problem is and I don't care to invest in the time to bother with it to them.

The only way they might understand is if you stab them in the eye with a ice pick, and somehow I don't see you ever doing that.

Got o2 yet?

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Reply #19 - Dec 7th, 2009 at 8:45pm
 
I guess I am on the better side of understanding friends.  All my friends are pretty compassionate about my headaches.  They know I am a fun girl and I like to hang out with them.  But when I am going through a cycle, I am no where to be found.  They all can't wait for me to feel better and come out with them.  I get a party when my cycle ends...."here's to the next year or three with no headaches" they say.   Roll Eyes

I only have a tough time explaining them to people I don't really know, or who really don't know me.  I get the "oh really, my so&so get's bad headaches too, they have missed work because of them...they take migraine strength pills because the pain is so bad, I hope you feel better, bye."  It's kinda pointless to explain and expect understanding from them.  Just expect misunderstanding, trust me, you will laugh as soon as they tell their "oh-so terrible headache story".

Most of the time I don't tell people.  My co-workers know, my friends, my family and they are the ones who count. 

One look at the imitrex injections, and they know your serious.

Love the dog story!
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A witty comment on wit....Potter...you crack me up Cheesy
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2009 at 6:05am
 
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I agree with Linda.

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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2009 at 3:51pm
 
My favorite is everyones face at work when I come walkng in with an E tank.  You will learn to manage. Enjoy your PFDAN when ever you can. This site will hp you learn to manage.

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Reply #23 - Dec 8th, 2009 at 4:47pm
 
angela.lambert wrote on Dec 7th, 2009 at 8:45pm:
I guess I am on the better side of understanding friends.  All my friends are pretty compassionate about my headaches.  They know I am a fun girl and I like to hang out with them.  But when I am going through a cycle, I am no where to be found.  They all can't wait for me to feel better and come out with them.  I get a party when my cycle ends...."here's to the next year or three with no headaches" they say.   Roll Eyes

I only have a tough time explaining them to people I don't really know, or who really don't know me.  I get the "oh really, my so&so get's bad headaches too, they have missed work because of them...they take migraine strength pills because the pain is so bad, I hope you feel better, bye."  It's kinda pointless to explain and expect understanding from them.  Just expect misunderstanding, trust me, you will laugh as soon as they tell their "oh-so terrible headache story".

Most of the time I don't tell people.  My co-workers know, my friends, my family and they are the ones who count. 

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My circumstances are similar to Angela's.  I just don't have that many problems with people and when I do, it doesn't bother me much.  I rarely ever discuss my headaches with anyone and even if they ask me, I cut it short because there is no sense in it.  I act like it is just something I deal with and that it will soon pass.  No one except my family knows the shape I get into with them.  I have been very fortunate to suffer so badly in silence and have a great 31 year career.  I have a large family support group because several of us have clusters...so I grew up with it and that really helps!

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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2009 at 7:27pm
 

    "Other than wit I avoid sharp objects."

Today I spent all day wandering around looking for myself..

Neva' had no wit, but I got Humor..  Grin
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