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Anybody have this MMPI test for your clusters?
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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 2:59pm
 
Chad wrote on Dec 15th, 2009 at 2:53pm:
Anybody have this MMPI test for your clusters?

Why?

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Potter wrote on Dec 15th, 2009 at 2:59pm:
Why?

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My new neuro wants to do this along with the EEG and MRI.  I know nothing about it other than what I researched on Google.
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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:08pm
 
MMPI 2 TEST QUESTIONS IN ORDER
TRUE OR FALSE (567 QUESTIONS)

1.I like mechanics magazines
2.I have a good appetite
3.I wake up fresh & rested most mornings
4.I think I would like the work of a librarian
5.I am easily awakened by noise
6.I like to read newspaper articles on crime
7.My hands and feet are usually warm enough
8.My daily life is full of things that keep me interested
9.I am about as able to work as I ever was
10.There seems to be a lump in my throat much of the time
11.A person should try to understand his dreams and be guided by or take warning from them
12.I enjoy detective or mystery stories
13.I work under a great deal of tension
14.I have diarrhea once a month or more
15.Once in a while I think of things too bad to talk about
16.I am sure I get a raw deal from life
17.My father was a good man
18.I am very seldom troubled by constipation
19.When I take a new, I like to be tipped off on whom should be gotten next to
20.My sex life is satisfactory
21.At times I have very much wanted to leave home
22.At times I have fits of laughing & crying that I cannot control
23.I am troubled by attacks of nausea and vomiting
24.No one seems to understand me
25.I would like to be a singer
26.I feel that it is certainly best to keep my mouth shut when I’m in trouble
27.Evil spirits possess me at times
28.When someone does me a wrong I feel I should pay him back if I can, just for the principle of the thing.
29.I am bothered by acid stomach several times a week
30.At times I feel like swearing
31.I have nightmares every few nights
32.I find it hard to keep my mind on a task or job
33.I have had very peculiar and strange experiences
34.I have a cough most of the time
35.If people had not had it in for me I would have been much more successful
36.I seldom worry about my heath
37.I have never been in trouble because of my sex behavior
38.During one period when I was a youngster I engaged in petty thievery
39.At times I feel like smashing things
40.Most any time I would rather sit and daydream than to do anything else
41.I have had periods of days, weeks, or months when I couldn’t take care of things because I couldn’t “get going”
42.My family does not like the work I have chosen ( or the work I intend to choose for my life work)
43.My sleep is fitful and disturbed
44.Much of the time my head seems to hurt all over
45.I do not always tell the truth
46.My judgment is better than it ever was
47.Once a week or oftener I feel suddenly hot all over without apparent cause
48.When I am with people I am bothered by hearing very queer things
49.It would be better if almost all laws were thrown away
50.My soul sometimes leaves my body
51.I am in just as good physical health as most of my friends
52.I prefer to pass by school friends, or people I know but have not seen for a long time, unless they speak to me first
53.A minister can cure disease by praying and putting his hand on your head
54.I am liked by most people who know me
55.I am almost never bothered by pains over the heart or in my chest
56.As a youngster I was suspended from school one or more times for cutting up
57.I am a good mixer
58.Everything is turning out just like the prophets of the Bible said it would
59.I have often had to take orders from someone who did not know as much as I did
60.I do not read every editorial in the newspaper everyday
61.I have not lived the right kind of life
62.Parts of my body often have feeling like burning, tingling, crawling, or like “going to sleep”
63.I have had no difficulty in starting or holding my bowel movement
64.I sometimes keep on at a thing until others lose their patience with me
65.I loved my father
66.I see things or animals or people around me that others do not see
67.I wish I could be as happy as others seem to be
68.I hardly ever feel pain in the back of the neck
69.I am very strongly attracted by members of my own sex
70.I used to like drop-the-handkerchief
71.I think a great many people exaggerate their misfortunes in order to gain the sympathy and help of others
72.I am troubled by discomfort in the pit of my stomach every few days or oftener
73.I am an important person
74.I have often wished I were a girl.  (Or if you are a girl) I have never been sorry that I am a girl
75.I get angry sometimes

         Now that there is some kinda bullshit.

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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:13pm
 
That there is very strange.  I never heard of the test until yesterday.  Everything else the new neuro wants done seems legit, plus he supports O2 and seeds.
This test is my only question mark.
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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:15pm
 
Thanks Potter, i'm going to bring this up to him on "why" I need to take this test?  It seems ridiculous.
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Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:45pm
 
The MMPI is one of the oldest, best researched, and widely used personality tests. Been around since, I recall, 1940s or so.

Don't try and understand this abstract but I send it along to show how it has been used to try and see if certain personality types have a different response to CH. Basically, some personality types have a harder time coping with CH because of their emotional response to sickness. It has long been recognized, for example, that clinical depression leads people to feel pain and disability more strongly then non-depressed people.

It's more complex than this one statement can express, but I'm only trying to convey that our personality make-up has a very real impact on how illness, disability--problems of the physical body--influences our coping capacity.

If you have read my little piece, "Pain vs. Suffering", which is posted on the OUCH site, you get some idea of how we think/feel/process our experiences, impacts how we deal with CH.

In offering this test to you, the doc is not saying anything more than: Knowing how you deal with distress will help me help you. Taking offense is not helpful.

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Personality profiles and subjective perception of pain in head pain patients.

Mongini F, Rota E, Evangelista A, Ciccone G, Milani C, Ugolini A, Ferrero L, Mongini T, Rosato R.

Department of Clinical Pathophysiology, Headache and Facial Pain Unit, University of Turin, 10126 Turin, Italy.

Little or no information is available regarding the effect of the personality characteristics of headache sufferers on the quality of pain perception. The aim of this study is to investigate, in head pain sufferers, the relationship between the personality profile, assessed by the MMPI, and the different dimensions of pain (sensory, affective and evaluative), as assessed by the MPQ. Three hundred and seventeen patients with Migraine and/or tension-type headache (episodic or chronic) and myogenic facial pain were included. The Italian versions of the MMPI-2 and MPQ were administered, and the pain level was measured by the VAS. Cluster analysis based on the clinical scales of MMPI identified four personality profiles closely corresponding to the MMPI profiles obtained by the previous researchers: "depressive" (Dep.), "emotionally overwhelmed" (Emot.), "conversive" (Conv.) and "Coper". Differences in MPQ scales between personality profiles were investigated by means of a general linear model (GLM), adjusting for sex, age and pain level and type. Results of GLM analysis showed that the affective dimension was significantly higher in cluster Emot. than in Dep. (p=0.027), Conv. (p=0.002) and Coper (p=0.003). Total PRI was significantly higher in Emot. than in Conv. (p=0.010).

THE FINDINGS OF THE PRESENT STUDY SUGGEST THAT A SPECIFIC PERSONALITY PROFILE (EMOT.), CHARACTERIZED BY A HEAVY EMOTIONAL BURDEN, MAY INCREASE THE AFFECTIVE DIMENSION OF PAIN WITH RESPECT TO A DEPRESSIVE PROFILE (DEP.), A CONVERSIVE PROFILE (CONV.) OR A NORMAL PROFILE (COPER), INDEPENDENT OF SEX, AGE AND PAIN LEVEL AND TYPE.

PMID: 19394764 [PubMed]
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Thanks Bob.  I'm not taking offense, i'm just questioning it.  What you described is what he said, but in Greek it seems, lol!
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Bob Johnson wrote on Dec 15th, 2009 at 3:45pm:
The MMPI is one of the oldest, best researched, and widely used personality tests. Been around since, I recall, 1940s or so.

Don't try and understand this abstract but I send it along to show how it has been used to try and see if certain personality types have a different response to CH. Basically, some personality types have a harder time coping with CH because of their emotional response to sickness. It has long been recognized, for example, that clinical depression leads people to feel pain and disability more strongly then non-depressed people.

It's more complex than this one statement can express, but I'm only trying to convey that our personality make-up has a very real impact on how illness, disability--problems of the physical body--influences our coping capacity.

If you have read my little piece, "Pain vs. Suffering", which is posted on the OUCH site, you get some idea of how we think/feel/process our experiences, impacts how we deal with CH.

In offering this test to you, the doc is not saying anything more than: Knowing how you deal with distress will help me help you. Taking offense is not helpful.

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Pain. 2009 Apr 24. 
Personality profiles and subjective perception of pain in head pain patients.

Mongini F, Rota E, Evangelista A, Ciccone G, Milani C, Ugolini A, Ferrero L, Mongini T, Rosato R.

Department of Clinical Pathophysiology, Headache and Facial Pain Unit, University of Turin, 10126 Turin, Italy.

Little or no information is available regarding the effect of the personality characteristics of headache sufferers on the quality of pain perception. The aim of this study is to investigate, in head pain sufferers, the relationship between the personality profile, assessed by the MMPI, and the different dimensions of pain (sensory, affective and evaluative), as assessed by the MPQ. Three hundred and seventeen patients with Migraine and/or tension-type headache (episodic or chronic) and myogenic facial pain were included. The Italian versions of the MMPI-2 and MPQ were administered, and the pain level was measured by the VAS. Cluster analysis based on the clinical scales of MMPI identified four personality profiles closely corresponding to the MMPI profiles obtained by the previous researchers: "depressive" (Dep.), "emotionally overwhelmed" (Emot.), "conversive" (Conv.) and "Coper". Differences in MPQ scales between personality profiles were investigated by means of a general linear model (GLM), adjusting for sex, age and pain level and type. Results of GLM analysis showed that the affective dimension was significantly higher in cluster Emot. than in Dep. (p=0.027), Conv. (p=0.002) and Coper (p=0.003). Total PRI was significantly higher in Emot. than in Conv. (p=0.010).

THE FINDINGS OF THE PRESENT STUDY SUGGEST THAT A SPECIFIC PERSONALITY PROFILE (EMOT.), CHARACTERIZED BY A HEAVY EMOTIONAL BURDEN, MAY INCREASE THE AFFECTIVE DIMENSION OF PAIN WITH RESPECT TO A DEPRESSIVE PROFILE (DEP.), A CONVERSIVE PROFILE (CONV.) OR A NORMAL PROFILE (COPER), INDEPENDENT OF SEX, AGE AND PAIN LEVEL AND TYPE.

PMID: 19394764 [PubMed]

  Maybe just maybe we tend to over think the problem.

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Reply #10 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 6:16pm
 
That's a test? Better bring a pig sticker to stick in the doc's eye, maybe then he will get the idea.

What a bunch of schlocky questions..

What's this one mean?
"70.I used to like drop-the-handkerchief"

What kind of a question is that?
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The eggheads are still in the process of taking over. Their mission won't be complete until the rest of us are institutionalized.
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I wonder if theres a study guide.
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Reply #13 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 8:50am
 
Does it then follow that all those jumpy lines on an EKG or EEG  have no meaning--becasue you don't understand the meaning?

Or the random numbers on a lab test? No significance?

Just this week, I found a letter to the editor in which the writer said:

"I don't understand why people want to believe in science--science is changing all the time."
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Well, under my name these days there is all this gibberish, and I have no idea what it means, or how it got there.
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I have no idea what to drop a hankie means either... Or why anyone would like to drop one..

By the way I don't get any motor magazine to read for fun, but read plenty of tech data on automotive data for diagnositcs, but I call that work.

The test as shown is schlock.. I wish CH was....
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Mac_Muz wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 1:16pm:
Well, under my name these days there is all this gibberish, and I have no idea what it means, or how it got there.
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You have the power to fix that yourself. Click on "User CP" above, then find the proper page on which it exists and get rid of it.

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Reply #16 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:13am
 
The MMPI (and MMPI II) is a clinical test used to evaluate an individuals personality.   It provides clear, valid descriptions of people's problems, symptoms, and characteristics in broadly accepted clinical language.

Now, is the neuro going to refer you to a psychologist/psychiatrist to have this done?  I would also check with your insurance, as this might not be covered (some insurance plans get stupid when it comes to psychological tests, counseling, etc.).  If I were you, I would ask why he wants to have this test done, what he thinks he might learn from the results and how will he use those results.

If you have nothing better to do and don't mind something like this being part of your permanent medical file, go for it.  Although this test is considered accurate, it is possible to *play with the answers* and skew the results.

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Reply #17 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:45am
 
It seems that a lot of those questions would be skewed by CH   
   No 18 ----verapamil     etc.

Its sort of like having a sleep study done while in cycle.  not the proper time maybe.
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Reply #18 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 1:53pm
 
deltadarlin wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:13am:
The MMPI (and MMPI II) is a clinical test used to evaluate an individuals personality.   It provides clear, valid descriptions of people's problems, symptoms, and characteristics in broadly accepted clinical language.

Now, is the neuro going to refer you to a psychologist/psychiatrist to have this done?  I would also check with your insurance, as this might not be covered (some insurance plans get stupid when it comes to psychological tests, counseling, etc.).  If I were you, I would ask why he wants to have this test done, what he thinks he might learn from the results and how will he use those results.

If you have nothing better to do and don't mind something like this being part of your permanent medical file, go for it.  Although this test is considered accurate, it is possible to *play with the answers* and skew the results.

I had so much info thrown at me at the neuro
appt. that I really didn't ask too much about this test.
I thought he said something about how I deal with clusters while in cycle.  As we all know, everybody handles this demon differently.  I am also scheduled for an EEG and MRI this coming Monday.  He told me about insurance possibly not covering the MMPI test so I am aware of that.  The thing I like about him most is that he is a D.O. rather than an M.D.  I always thought DO's support alternative treatments or therapies and this doc definitely does since he supports the use of LSA, shrooms and LSD.  He wasn't quick to put me on meds, however that is an option if the hallucinogens fail.
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He told me about insurance possibly not covering the MMPI test so I am aware of that.

Shit, dude. I'd be running so fast and so far from this....

Or you could politely and diplomatically tell him to put his test where the sun don't shine. This is total bullshit.
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Reply #20 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:12pm
 
Brew, Fixed i guess... Dunno what that was..

I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but that MMPI test isn't either. Anyone who wasted their time filling that out deserves what ever is said by a ju ju witch doctor, as that to me is about as much good as it can do.

I can see anyone can read into it what they want to see. I wouldn't do one, much less pay to take it.

I can tell if paint is in a pot, or if it's mud, plain right off..

Maybe anyone who takes that test should also consider paying for a nice tea leaf reading..  Grin
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Reply #21 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:39pm
 
Brew wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Shit, dude. I'd be running so fast and so far from this....

Or you could politely and diplomatically tell him to put his test where the sun don't shine. This is total bullshit.

Brew, I have considered that.  All I need to tell him is that i'm psychological fine during cycles.  I'm annoyed as F, but I manage.  I don't see the need for a test of this nature.  I'm my option.  He seems very down to Earth so i'm sure he won't have a problem with that.
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Reply #22 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:44pm
 
Chad you always seem fine to me... Cheesy LOL

Go see the guy but tell him he can take the test in your place, and let you determine if he is set...  Grin

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Reply #23 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:48pm
 
Chad wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:39pm:
Brew wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Shit, dude. I'd be running so fast and so far from this....

Or you could politely and diplomatically tell him to put his test where the sun don't shine. This is total bullshit.

Brew, I have considered that.  All I need to tell him is that i'm psychological fine during cycles.  I'm annoyed as F, but I manage.  I don't see the need for a test of this nature.  I'm my option.  He seems very down to Earth so i'm sure he won't have a problem with that.

I'm dying to know just what the f*** he hopes to learn from it - or is he just a nosey SOB. A test of this nature for a person suffering ONLY from a debilitating physical condition is not just out of bounds, it's not even in the stadium parking lot.
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Reply #24 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:57pm
 
Brew, maybe Chad likes dropping hankies?  Grin

I have no idea what that means.. In this day and age there is lots of things I don't know what they mean..

I wonder if it is a 'gay' related question? But in truth I have no idea what it could possibly mean and understand why, unless someone who knows says so...

The other day on a tool site I read a term "babydaddy" and searched it.. I still don't know what that means.. I don't think I want to..
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