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Dec 28th, 2009 at 10:44pm
 
Hi all!!.  I know I havent been around much but I need some help please!  I have used O2  treatments to abort my ch's for maybe the last 4 or 5 yrs and have never had a prob with it not being effective.  Now all of a sudden for about the past month or so the O2 doesnt seem to hardly do anything to abort...Im using more trex shots and they go quickly.  I dont know what I am doing wrong if anything...if its the mask or if i have become immune to it now...can we even become immune to the o2 therapy???  I dont know I am just at a loss right now and in high cycle...barely sleep...crabby aall the time...etc.  Any suggestion, thoughts, advice would be greatly appreciated and helpful

I really hope and pray all of you are well and have had a blessed Christmas

Thanks again...Tess
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Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 10:49pm
 
What flow rate are you using Tess?
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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:06pm
 
...and what kind of mask?
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Reply #3 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:08pm
 
no specific flow rate...Im using the cluster mask(the orange one if that helps) with the demand valve
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Reply #4 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:29pm
 
Wow. That's just what you need. I got nothin' else. Maybe try hyperventilating a little harder?
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Reply #5 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:51pm
 
yeah thats what ive been trying to do..plus pushing the button for more flow...it seems the last time i got tanks is when it started...i was thinking i got a bad batch of tanks lol...but i have been replenished and still hardly working...even b4 when i was in high cycle getting hit so often and hard like k 8 to 10's the o2 worked and quickly but not now...trying to find differences from then and now but cant
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Reply #6 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:53am
 
This happened to me last year while in cycle. Batch suggested my PH level may be off, and this can effect the bodies uptake of O2.

First I got a suppliment of Calcium, Magnesium, & zinc. Then went to Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register and got test strips.

The suppliment did work and the O2 began working once again.

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Reply #7 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:08am
 
I'm glad Don remembered that, I can never remember the details of the PH stuff but apparently it can make a big difference.

Are you currently using a prevent while in cycle? Verapamil, Lithium, Topomax? If not it's certainly worth talking to your doc about. Like Don said, if you do start the Magnesium and Zinc it's important you do the calcium too, especially the ladies, as Magnesium can leech the calcium outta you. Good luck, high cycles suck. Cry

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Reply #8 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:10am
 
oh thank you so much Don...I am going to try that...how much of the calcium and mag should i take...just bottle directions or something ddifferent?
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Reply #9 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:11am
 
hi Joe...yes all i am on is verapamil and zonisamide...never been on this mix b4 but thus far any cocktail i have tried hasnt worked as a prevent
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Reply #10 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:16am
 
I do a year round supplement, have for many years and am convinced it's had a positive effect on my cycles. I use 250 mg a day of magnesium, (warning, it can keep you a little loose!!!)100 mg of Vitamin B-2, then a 2 a day calcium/D supplement that I believe is 1000 or 1500 mg each.

If all else fails talk to your doctor about the lithium/verapamil combo. It's worked for some when all else has failed. NOT something you try on your own as it requires a little bit of monitoring and blood work.

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Reply #11 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:23am
 
I bought the CVS brand with Calcium-333mg, Magnesium-133mg, Zinc-5mg, and take twice per day.

Hope it helps, Don
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Reply #12 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:27am
 
THANKS SO MUCH GUYS i REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP!1  AS SOON AS I HAVE THE CASH IM GOING TO GET THOSE SUPPLEMENTS
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Reply #13 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 7:21am
 
Tess, o2 worked for me for 2 years than one day nothing.  I had changed nothing in the way I administered.  I just chalked it up to the beast morphing once again.  Lithium used to work for me also then it quit.  A few other meds quit on me also.  I just figured that is how the beast operates on me.  I had never heard of the vitamin combo helping before.  Thanks for posting that guys!!!
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Reply #14 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 6:01pm
 
Tess, Been having CH for over 30 years. Treating them with O2 for 25 years. The O2 is like magic! But, I go through periods of time when the O2 doesn't work. When that happens I put on my running shoes and do wind sprints until I couldn't possibly breath any heavier. I then hit the O2 again. No regulator and I take as much in with each breath as possible and expell as much as I possibly can before taking the next deep breath of O2. This usually works but now as fast as the O2 usually works.
These periods pass, and then the O2 works like magic again. Hang in there, your time will pass too.
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Reply #15 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 6:02pm
 
Tess, Been having CH for over 30 years. Treating them with O2 for 25 years. The O2 is like magic! But, I go through periods of time when the O2 doesn't work. When that happens I put on my running shoes and do wind sprints until I couldn't possibly breath any heavier. I then hit the O2 again. No regulator and I take as much in with each breath as possible and expell as much as I possibly can before taking the next deep breath of O2. This usually works but not as fast as the O2 usually works.
These periods pass, and then the O2 works like magic again. Hang in there, your time will pass too.
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Reply #16 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 7:21pm
 
Thank you Novell and all who have replied...I greatly appreciate all your words and it helps alot!!

Bless you all!
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Reply #17 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 7:59pm
 
Tess,

I really don't have any advice to add, just that I hope you find relief soon.

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Reply #18 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 11:35am
 
Could someone please remind me (and Tess) the right O2 level?  I don't remember what it is--but it has to be a certain level to work and it is quite high.  It sounds like you have the right mask--for anyone reading--it needs to be a nonrebreather mask.
Tess, O2 works for me IF it is the right level EXCEPT when I am peaking in the cycle.
A few suggestions.  You need to start the O2 as quick as possible when you feel the headache coming on--at night this can be more difficult when you are awakened by the headaches--but you need to spring out of bed and get to the O2 as soon as possible nonetheless.
Also--and this is important--when you administer the O2 it oftentimes is extremely helpful to be in a sitting position with your head and neck bent downwards.  So, in other words, you are looking at the floor while administering the O2 not straight down at it but almost.  If I do not go into this position the O2 DOES NOT work nearly as well.  I do not know why this works, but this is the recommended position. 
Also, when things have gotten not as great with the O2, I have tried inhaling O2 while sipping black coffee--obviously not at the same time--inhale O2 for a while, remove mask, sip black coffee--this is oftentimes VERY effective, and even when done at night, although I am sensitive to coffee I have had no problems falling asleep afterwards.
I would not give up on the O2 just make sure the flow is correct, etc.
Good luck with everything!
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Reply #19 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:30pm
 
starlight , I can't help in CFM or with a mask as I don't use a regulator that does CFM or Liters per minute. My regulator is for psi and I use 45 there.

No mask either a tiorch grip for welding torches

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Reply #20 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:13pm
 
Thanks Mac--guess we use different kinds of tanks lol!
I just read how Tess has tank where the level can be adjusted--problem is some tanks don't go up high enough--I had that happen to me once.  Anyway, been out of cycle for a while and can't remember the level.  Oh wait, there's an O2 button on the left let me look there.
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Reply #21 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:17pm
 
OK, looked on the button at left.  Tess you need a flow rate of at least 15 LPM (that sounds right on).  Problem is some regulators don't go up that high--I've had one that didn't--not fun b/c it doesn't work and you wonder why it isn't working.  Anyway, hope any of this info helps.  Sometimes you get the O2 and think great! but little do you know you are not getting the right flow.  Good luck!
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Reply #22 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 8:49am
 
Layla328 wrote on Dec 30th, 2009 at 10:17pm:
OK, looked on the button at left.  Tess you need a flow rate of at least 15 LPM (that sounds right on).  Problem is some regulators don't go up that high--I've had one that didn't--not fun b/c it doesn't work and you wonder why it isn't working.  Anyway, hope any of this info helps.  Sometimes you get the O2 and think great! but little do you know you are not getting the right flow.  Good luck!

In reply #3 above, Tess said she has a demand valve regulator. She gets as much as she demands, and it shuts off in between breaths - like a scuba diver. Flow rate and an inadequate regulator are not the issue.
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Reply #23 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 12:44pm
 
There is a wide variety of tanks, but the regulator is most important. Which tank is least important.

Masks seen to break down to the wrong ones, the right ones, ir a mouth piece, since a mask of any kind may cause pressure on one's face which may not be welcome pressure.

Or men with beards may find masks leak, and will not seal.

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Reply #24 - Jan 2nd, 2010 at 8:35am
 
Tess, get the Calicum Citrate supplement. Pete had me on the plain calicum and then switched me and the Calicum Citrate worked a lot better. I just take two or three when I think about it.. (with lots of water).

PM him if you have any questions -- He can get real "detailed" with his instructions.

And try standing up to hyperventilate with the demand valve (Pete has me doing that and it seems to work better). If you get dizzy sit down, but try that and see if it helps.

Hope you get some relief soon..

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