What is in Red Bull that some of you find relief from? Any articles/studies on those ingredients?

I seem to be getting relief from rock star. My work is a sponsor of some kind? we have a big rockstar bus parked on the premises and free refrigerators filled with them.

Curious? who discovered this treatment? was it someone on the site?

saxman wrote on Jan 5^th, 2010 at 2:53am:

Who "discovers" anything?

Who was it that thought grape jelly and yellow mustard heated together would make a delicious sauce for smokey links?

Brew wrote on Jan 5^th, 2010 at 2:06pm:

Not Elk smokies I hope?

       Potter

Potter wrote on Jan 5^th, 2010 at 5:17pm:

Never. I'm talking the Hillshire Farms or Oscar Mayer variety.

Guiseppi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2010 at 5:21pm:


I'm a little afraid to ask about where the Rockstar drink originated.

seaworthy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2010 at 8:21pm:


I so wish i would have thought to ask that question!!!!!!!!

Its strange, I was going to ask this same question in here. I tried redbull for the first time to abort a cluster recently and it actually worked for me. I was surprised, I'll have to do some more tests at the onset of an attack, to really say it aborts my clusters.

I have never drank redbull by itself, although I have had many a jager bombs and I can say on the nights I have had a jager bomb instead of just alcohol, I can't ever remember getting an attack.  whether I got one or just couldn't remember  Joke, I would have remembered.

I know redbull has:

Niacin 100%
Vitamin B6 250%
Vitamin B12 80%
Pantothenic Acid 50%

Carbonated Water, Sucrose, Glucose, Citric Acid, Taurine, Sodium Citrates, Magnesium Carbonate, Caffeine, Glucuronolactone, Inositol, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine HCL, Vitamin B12, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Colors.

Caffeine Content: 80mg /8.4 fl oz (which is one can)

For those that stated its the caffeine and taurine together that aborts an attack, are you 100% for sure on that? I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I seriously doubt its the B vitamins, because I take a B-Complex daily and still get clusters.

ClusterSufferer wrote on Jan 9^th, 2010 at 4:32am:

Find yourself a concoction that has everything else in it but the caffeine and taruine, slam it at the onset of an attack, and then report back.

Science in everyday life.

(You can do somewhat of the same experiment by doing this with a drink called Amp. Has the same levels of caffeine, but only has 40mg of taurine per serving instead of the 1000mg in Red Bull. Also doesn't have the B vitamins if I recall - I don't know anymore because I don't use it because it doesn't work.)

ClusterSufferer wrote on Jan 9^th, 2010 at 4:39am:

There’s no real regime simply follow the instructions on the bottle/packet the tablets come in. Get the 500mg magnesium/calcium combo if you can, it just saves taking another tablet.
The Taurine will be what you can get your hands on , I think mine is 200mg, you will need the calcium otherwise you will end up with a calcium deficiency due to the magnesium blocking it and end up with just about as much pain from muscle & joint pain as the CH.

The simplicity is, my take on this only: Magnesium is a neurotransmitter & we need that to assist the hypothalamus to function better, Taurine is a promoter in that it accelerates the metabolism of other substances “Taurine turns caffeine into super caffeine”.

The other thing you will need & this is important PATIENCE, you will see from my diary below that it took a long time for this to start gradually working for me.

Cheers
Barry

Day of last hit      2/10/2006      First big break
Today's date      20/06/2007      First day of getting hit again
           261      =      Days since last hit

Day of last hit      20/06/2007      High cycle started again
Today's date      9/08/2007      High cycle ended
           50            Days getting hit


Day of last hit      9/08/2007      Low cycle started
Today's date      1/06/2008      Low cycle ended
           297            Days since last hit

Day of last hit      1/06/2008      High cycle started again
Today's date      24/07/2008      High cycle ended
           53            Days getting hit

Day of last hit      24/07/2008      Low cycle started
Today's date      11/1/2010      
           536            Current pain free run

fiftyamp wrote on Jan 11^th, 2010 at 7:25pm:


That's  interesting cause I always use full sugar Red Bull, only because I'm sure I read on here a couple of years ago the diet version wasn't as effective. Mind you, you do drink two.

Out of interest do other folks get relief from just one can or do you find it takes more?

There is sure A LOT of positive reports coming out about omega 3s, especially in the form of fish oil. (Altho omega 3s are in a number of oils, like flaxseed and walnuts. It seems the modern diet has gone overboard on omega 6s --from soy, wheat and corn.)
 
Incidently Red Bull is a brand name. If I were to give a brand name for fish oil, like Flap Jack's Fishy Supreme, I might be accused of trying to sell something. Is Verapamil sold as a generic?

YOURS TRULY, DANiEL

danielpeterson wrote on Jan 16^th, 2010 at 4:36pm:


Are the "LOT" of reports related to CH's? I'm not challenging the potential value of Omega 3 - just asking how you see it pertaining to CH's.

Thanks in advance,
Marc