Click this link to read a post I like on the clusterheadaches.com message board...

-johnny-

CH.com Sponsor

Offline

theres no smoking on the
dock

Posts: 1642
fayette county ohio
Gender: male

seeds survey
Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:21pm

i thought i would post a few questions i have about using seeds instead of calling all of you up on the phone. i thought this would be a good way to present this information to some of our more bashful members. thanks ahead of time for answering my questions.

are you chronic or episodic?

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions?

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment?

what type of seeds do you use?

how many do you dose with?

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled?
-do you mix them with anything?
-how do you grind them?

how often do you dose?

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment?

how long have you used seeds?

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds?

can you post a link as to where you obtain them?

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now? Cheesy

thanks again everybody

Back to top

« Last Edit: Jan 18^th, 2010 at 1:01am by -johnny- »

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

or

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

or

IP Logged

Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: seeds survey Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:46pm Most important first: beige SmartWool. The rest you already know about me since we chatted.
Back to top	"I have been asked if I have changed in these past 25 years. No, I am the same. Only more so." --Ayn Rand IP Logged

-johnny- CH.com Sponsor Offline theres no smoking on the dock Posts: 1642 fayette county ohio Gender:	Re: seeds survey Reply #2 - Jan 18^th, 2010 at 12:10am Brew wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:46pm: Most important first: beige SmartWool. The rest you already know about me since we chatted. i wanted to thank you especially. thanks man
Back to top	Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or IP Logged

Chad

CH.com Hall of Famer

Offline

Posts: 738
Emmaus, PA
Gender: male

Re: seeds survey
Reply #3 - Jan 18^th, 2010 at 10:35am

are you chronic or episodic? episodic

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions? cycles in the past couple of years 2 weeks. Remission before seeds 6months, with seeds 1 year.

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment? Yes, see above

what type of seeds do you use? rivea corymbosa

how many do you dose with? maintenance 25, during cycle 60

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled? No
-do you mix them with anything? water
-how do you grind them? mortar and pestle

how often do you dose? Maintenance every other month; in cycle as many times needed wait 3-5 days in between

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment? I sleep like a baby after dosing otherwise I ride the headache out. I'm afraid to use melatonin while using seeds.

how long have you used seeds? 1.5 years

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds? Used shrooms recreationally years ago during cycle and it stopped the CH or I was just at the end of my cycle.

can you post a link as to where you obtain them?

Seeds - Iamshaman.com
Shrooms - my old Deadhead friends

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now? Grey LOL!

Back to top

When the PAIN starts, I FIGHT back!

Rivea Corymbosa seeds were my KO punch, now D3 is the front runner!

IP Logged

midwestbeth

CH.com Sponsor

Offline

Posts: 1123
Edwardsville, IL
Gender: female

Re: seeds survey
Reply #4 - Jan 18^th, 2010 at 1:10pm

-johnny- wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:21pm:

i thought i would post a few questions i have about using seeds instead of calling all of you up on the phone. i thought this would be a good way to present this information to some of our more bashful members. thanks ahead of time for answering my questions.

are you chronic or episodic?

started ch as chronic, now consider myself episodic

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions?

mostly pf since starting the rc seeds

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment?

changed from several ch everyday to maybe one every couple weeks or so on average.

what type of seeds do you use?

rc seeds

how many do you dose with?

45-55

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled?
-do you mix them with anything?

plain ol H20 from the tap

-how do you grind them?

coffee grinder

how often do you dose?

on average, every few months

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment?

Before dosing with rc seeds, I had almost forgot what it was like to get a full nights sleep. I'm sleeping like a baby these days. No sleep aids needed.

how long have you used seeds?

about a year

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds?

not since hs and I didn't have ch back then.

can you post a link as to where you obtain them?

iamshaman.com fast service.

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now? Cheesy

blue

thanks again everybody

Back to top

Dum vita est spes est

IP Logged

Redrum

Ex Member

Re: seeds survey
Reply #5 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 10:15am

are you chronic or episodic? Episodic, started chronic for 15 years before flipping to episodic about 10 years ago

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions? before seeds, every fall and spring for 6-12 weeks. I have now been in remission about a year and a half and previous remission was about a year

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment? yes, see above

what type of seeds do you use? RC

how many do you dose with? 20-60

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled? No

-do you mix them with anything? about 1/2 oz of white wine after crushing, soak for about 2 hrs.,strain then I mix with some fruit juice for flavor

-how do you grind them? mortar and pestol

how often do you dose? once every 5 days or so in cycle untill it ends, once every 2-3 months between cycles

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment? I tend to sleep fine, If CH wakes me I prefer O2, have used melatonin in past (loved it) but haven't needed it since starting seeds

how long have you used seeds? about 3 years

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds? Just recreational back in the day, can't comment on usefulness for CH

can you post a link as to where you obtain them? don't have them handy but got the links from clusterbuster site if I remember correctly

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now? plain white tube socks

Back to top

IP Logged

lorac CH.com Old Timer Offline Imagine Posts: 433 Tennessee Gender:	Re: seeds survey Reply #6 - Jan 19^th, 2010 at 9:07pm Thanks for starting this Johnny! answers a bunch of my questions....Brilliant
Back to top	IP Logged

koctail

CH.com Junior

Offline

I Love CH.com!

Posts: 52

Re: seeds survey
Reply #7 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 6:23pm

hello all. im gonna try the rc seeds. it seems like the best starting point and is pseudo legal. id prefer the shrooms but just dont have the time or patience now for starting a grow house in my garage.

i do have a question for those of u who use the rc seeds. i see u use 20-60. the dosing instructions from clusterbusters are as follows:

"In this case as stated above, 4 to 8 Rivea seeds should be the range people treating cluster headaches should remain at least for the first dose. If future doses are needed, this number can be modified to suit each individual. You may need to slowly increase the dose size. Begin with a low dose for safety and build higher only if a larger dose is needed for increased efficacy. Use a headache chart to track your progress and this will make it much easier to determine future dosing schedules and dose sizes."

20-60 seems like a huge dose compared to what clusterbustes is indicating. am i missing something?

Back to top

IP Logged

Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: seeds survey Reply #8 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 6:54pm A larger dose is needed for increased efficacy. And BTW, ingestion of RC seeds is not pseudo legal. It's very illegal.
Back to top	"I have been asked if I have changed in these past 25 years. No, I am the same. Only more so." --Ayn Rand IP Logged

koctail CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 52	Re: seeds survey Reply #9 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 7:00pm Brew wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 6:54pm: A larger dose is needed for increased efficacy. And BTW, ingestion of RC seeds is not pseudo legal. It's very illegal. right, procurement is legal. ingestion illegal.
Back to top	IP Logged

Chad CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 738 Emmaus, PA Gender:	Re: seeds survey Reply #10 - Feb 2^nd, 2010 at 7:18pm Those large intake numbers for me are because I really don't know how much LSA is present in each batch of seeds. Some can be old, some can be duds, some are perfect. I'm sure you get my point here.
Back to top	When the PAIN starts, I FIGHT back! Rivea Corymbosa seeds were my KO punch, now D3 is the front runner! IP Logged

-johnny- CH.com Sponsor Offline theres no smoking on the dock Posts: 1642 fayette county ohio Gender:	Re: seeds survey Reply #11 - Feb 21^st, 2010 at 8:31pm thanks for the replies everyone. any one else like to share
Back to top	Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or IP Logged

daxm

CH.com Junior

Offline

Posts: 37
new york
Gender: male

Re: seeds survey
Reply #12 - Feb 22^nd, 2010 at 4:11am

are you chronic or episodic?

I BELIVE I AM CHRONIC

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment?

I STARTED TAKING THE SEEDS FEBRUARY 4TH. I STILL AM IN CYCLE.

what type of seeds do you use?

RC

how many do you dose with?

I HAVE TRIED 50, THEN 60 AND THEN 70

how do you prepare them?

I CRUSH THEM UP WITH A HOME-MADE MORTAR AND PESTOL. LET THEM SOAK OVER NIGHT IN WATER.

how often do you dose?

I HAVE DONE IT EVERY 4 DAYS SINCE THE FIRST TIME... FEB. 4TH

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment?

I TAKE MELATONIN... AND YEAH SOMETIMES I GET SLEEP... BUT ITS 4 IN THE MOURNING RIGHT NOW.. SO ITS UN-PREDICTABLE.

how long have you used seeds?

FEBRUARY 4TH 2010

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds?

I HAVE NOT... BUT WOULD LIKE TO

WHEN I FIRST STARTED TAKING THEM.. I WAS HAVING 2-4 ATTACKS A DAY FOR WEEKS AT A TIME. I HAVE NOTICED A DRASTIC REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF HITS... TONIGHT I WAS NOT SO LUCKY.. BUT IT HAD BEEN SINCE LAST THURSDAY SINCE MY LAST HEAD-ACHE. I AM NOT SURE IF ITS THE SEEDS OR MY CYCLE JUST WEARING ITSELF OUT... BUT THE COINCIDENCE HAS MADE ME THINK TO ORDER MORE. I HOPE THIS HELPS....

-DAX

Back to top

« Last Edit: Feb 22^nd, 2010 at 4:31am by daxm »

IP Logged

Chad

CH.com Hall of Famer

Offline

Posts: 738
Emmaus, PA
Gender: male

Re: seeds survey
Reply #13 - Feb 22^nd, 2010 at 7:41am

Dax,

you might want to read up on the use of the seeds. The longer the period between taking them, the better. Like 7 days if possible. This is just what i'm reading on the Clusterbusters forum. Also, Melatonin might be interfering with the seeds. That one hurts too because I think Melatonin is very good as a sleep aid.

Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to

or

Read section 4 about detoxing
Read section 4.2 about days between dosing

Back to top

When the PAIN starts, I FIGHT back!

Rivea Corymbosa seeds were my KO punch, now D3 is the front runner!

IP Logged

Sandy_C

CH.com Sponsor

Offline

There is no such thing
as a stupid question.

Posts: 3371
Jamestown, NC
Gender: female

Re: seeds survey
Reply #14 - Feb 23^rd, 2010 at 4:09pm

[quote
are you chronic or episodic?

Episodic

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions?

cycles last 8 to 16 weeks with 12 to 18 months remission

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment?

Oh YES

what type of seeds do you use?

rc

how many do you dose with?

15 seeds every couple of months, 35 seeds when in cycle

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled?

No

-do you mix them with anything?

shot glass of water, soak for two hours

-how do you grind them?

pepper grinder

how often do you dose?

In cycle every 5 days until hits stop - usually only need two doses to end cycle (that's 10 days) - nice

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment?

don't need any, I sleep well

how long have you used seeds?

It's been so long I can't actually remember - BUT - I am going on 4 years without a cycle

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds?

No

can you post a link as to where you obtain them?

Iamshaman.com

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now? Cheesy

teal, maroon and black argyle kneesox

[/quote]

Back to top

Lean on me, when you're not strong, cause we all need somebody to lean on.

IP Logged

Linda_Howell

CH.com Moderator
CH.com Alumnus

Offline

Do not feed the Moderators

Posts: 11927
Santa Maria, Ca.
Gender: female

Re: seeds survey
Reply #15 - Feb 23^rd, 2010 at 4:44pm

Quote:

are you chronic or episodic?

Chronic

if episodic how long are your cycles and remissions?

N/A

have your cycle and remission times changed since using this treatment?

Yes....I think

what type of seeds do you use?

RC

how many do you dose with?

35

how do you prepare them?
-do they have to be peeled?
-do you mix them with anything?
-how do you grind them?

soaked them overnight, ground them with a pestle drainesd the water and swallowed on a spoon w/ honey

how often do you dose?

I've only dosed once

are you getting sleep and what type of sleep aids do you use that don't interfere with this treatment?

sleep pretty much o.k. Don't need to use anything

how long have you used seeds?

have you used mushrooms or LSD and how do they compare to seeds?

only once. Schrooms never did anything

can you post a link as to where you obtain them?

iamshaman.com

most importantly, what color socks do you have on right now?

pink slippers, no socks even though it's danged cold. LOL

Back to top

Hurt people.....hurt people. Think about it.

IP Logged

	Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
	Search box updated Dec 3, 2011... Search ch.com with Google!