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BigMatt CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Live to ride, ride to live. Posts: 1089 Mountain View, CA Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Feb 19^th, 2010 at 5:39pm So that's what the little bastard looks like.
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2010 at 7:06pm Many here have, indeed, seen that drawing before. Careful how you use it (i.e., reproducing for profit or to avoid purchase) - I believe some folks have run into copyright problems in the past. Don't know the details.
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Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:06pm

LasVegas wrote on Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:01pm:

if a picture has a c with a circle around it, then the picture is copyrighted. this picture is game for all

No, as soon as intellectual property is created, the copyright is owned by the creator, whether or not it has a little c with a circle around it. What they do with it after that is their business, and I'm telling you, there were some people who stepped on the wrong toes with this one a number of years back.

Proceed with caution and at your own risk.

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Reply #3 - Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:15pm

LasVegas wrote on Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:12pm:

great picture though isn't it?

It's marvelous.

And I don't think any of us would want to deprive its creator of his rightful ownership and the benefits that derive from it.

For all we know, the creator may no longer own the copyright and may have said, "Have at it, world." But I don't know, and therefore I err on the side of caution.

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Reply #4 - Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:33pm

LV - I'm not sure you were understanding what I wrote. There's no problem posting it here. Doing so is not a violation of copyright law. It's only when you do one of two things:

1. Copying to profit monetarily or otherwise, and

2. Copying to avoid purchase.

Just displaying it here is the same as playing your favorite musical CD for friend or at a party. You violate the law if you make a copy for that friend and sell it to him, or if your friend rips a copy so he doesn't have to buy it.

With a visual image, it would be a violation if you took that pic and put it on T-shirts and sold them.

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LasVegas CH.com Sponsor Offline Episodic CH since 11 yrs old, now 50. Posts: 2020 north of the 60th parallel Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #5 - Feb 19^th, 2010 at 9:35pm oh, well if that's the deal, ....enjoy this beast picture seen below
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2010 at 11:21am Looking at that pic always gives me a sympathetic CH twinge! Joe
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Kirk CH.com Alumnus Offline VINIMUS, VIDIMUS, DOLAVIMUS Posts: 2393 Harts Lake, WA Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #7 - Feb 20^th, 2010 at 6:43pm I'm trying to remember back when I use to see that around. My memory really sucks, the guy is really talented and did some other drawings. That one made it into one of the early OUCH newsletters I think.
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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #8 - Feb 21^st, 2010 at 8:12am Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Fletcher, the artist, was at the Atlanta OUCH conference. Nice guy!
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LasVegas CH.com Sponsor Offline Episodic CH since 11 yrs old, now 50. Posts: 2020 north of the 60th parallel Gender:	Re: recognize this beast? Reply #9 - Feb 21^st, 2010 at 12:24pm Good find Bob P. This guy is very talented.
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Reply #10 - Feb 24^th, 2010 at 11:34pm

As soon as I saw the following untitled sculpture by Eric O'Neill, I knew it was what the beast looked like that's been gnawing on the back of my eye for the last 16 years....

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He left some of his tools laying around too!

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I took these photos at the Tyler School of Art, Temple University...

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