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TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE
May 7^th, 2010 at 1:54pm

Like most folks in this country, I have a job (matter of fact, I have 2). I work, they pay me.I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. Angry

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random urine test (with which I have no problem Roll Eyes

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What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test Smiley

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their rear-end doing drugs while I work.
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Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check or a damn Link Card?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Something has to change in this country - AND SOON!

Lady Luv.... Smiley

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Mosaicwench CH.com Sponsor Offline www.mosaicwench.com Posts: 3507 Near Milwaukee WI, USA Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #1 - May 7^th, 2010 at 2:35pm Love it. I'd vote for it!
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seaworthy CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 706	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2010 at 3:43pm As we say up here in Boston: "That would be pissa"
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bonkers CH.com Old Timer Offline What is THIS? Posts: 308 San Diego, California Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2010 at 3:52pm "Urine or you're out." That's really cool! And a really good idea!
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Grandma_Sweet_Boy CH.com Alumnus Offline What Goes Around Comes Around! Posts: 4496 Georgetown,Ontario Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2010 at 4:31pm LadiyLuv - I have always loved how you think! Hugs Carol
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M.R. CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 598 Grand Rapids, Mi. Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2010 at 4:43pm I like the idea. I would of taken one anytime I was collecting unemployment. But good luck getting that past the ACLU. They would fight that one tooth and nail. Mike Now Ruthie, with talk like that, you might want to be careful. You could be labeled as one of those racist teabagers, too.
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-johnny- CH.com Sponsor Offline theres no smoking on the dock Posts: 1642 fayette county ohio Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #6 - May 8^th, 2010 at 3:51am perhaps if they legalized pot unemployed people could grow pot and then they would have an income. unless of coarse your a drug lord in mexico. in which case i would imagine your income would drop off somewhat
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BarbaraD CH.com Alumnus Offline Hugs to ya Posts: 8333 Douglasville, TX Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2010 at 6:03am Great idea...
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stevegeebe CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1687 Mandeville, LA Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2010 at 7:40am LA Rep. John LaBruzzo is proposing legislation for such a requirement of those receiving assistance. I would add an amendment to the bill that would require legislators to submit to the test as well. That would surely kill the bill. Steve G
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Reply #9 - May 8^th, 2010 at 9:57am

stevegeebe wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

LA Rep. John LaBruzzo is proposing legislation for such a requirement of those receiving assistance.

I would add an amendment to the bill that would require legislators to submit to the test as well.

That would surely kill the bill.

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Funny you should say this Steve. Employees of the state of LA are required to pass a drug test for employment and are subject to random drug tests, however none of our elected officials are required to pass any tests.

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stevegeebe CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1687 Mandeville, LA Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #10 - May 8^th, 2010 at 11:42am "Certain employees"...eh Carolyn? Steve G
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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #11 - May 8^th, 2010 at 7:44pm You might say that. In fact, when the good legislators of LA drafted this plan (for the employees), the refused to allow the testing to extend to them. Wonder if Charles cocaine Jones had anything to do with that?
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Reply #12 - May 8^th, 2010 at 8:21pm

I suppose it could be done, but I wonder how effective and/or useful it would be, vis a vis the cost of administering the tests.

Like pre-employment urine testing, I'm curious whether it would be more a "feel-good" measure than anything else. Pre-employment urine testing tends to net the dumb applicants, but that's about it. Ultimately, it's an IQ test, not a drug test.

Just by way of illustration, take a look at the detection periods for various drugs in urine testing:

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There are plenty of instances (I'm sure any of us could point to one of them) where a perception that "something" ought to be done, results in "something" being put into place. But the "something" may not help one bit. If it doesn't, what good is it, after all?

On a positive note, if such a program were instituted, I can see where the stock in drug-testing companies might rise significantly. Wink

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Reply #13 - May 9^th, 2010 at 5:19pm

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On a positive note, if such a program were instituted, I can see where the stock in drug-testing companies might rise significantly.

There ya go. Finally an angle that makes sense for drug companies! A way for someone to cash in. Hard to believe it doesn't fly.....

Interesting idea though. No doubt it would work too well so it hasn't a chance.

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Reply #14 - May 10^th, 2010 at 3:02am

Actually a "hair folical" works better (and longer). Harder to "fake"...

And "yes" the system is broken, but "fixable" -- everything is fixable - just take some effort (and a NEW Congress willing to do it!).

I'm for passing a law that a BILL cannot be over 10 pages long -- by doing this it would eliminate all BS, cut out all unnecessary lawyer talk, elimate pork barrell stuff and get it in plain talk where someone could understand it. When debate time came - it would be easy -- it say THIS- what's to argue... let's get 'r done!!! Maybe then our LEGISLATORS could READ the damn things!!!

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Reply #15 - May 10^th, 2010 at 12:09pm

Piss in or Piss Off! I love it!

But like others have said it would never make it or if it did it would be limited and they would never include themselves. I worked as an IT consultant up in Sacramento CA for a few years and I had a job at a religious school of putting in a network and installing software to monitor what internet sites the students were visiting and blocking bad ones, all sounds good right? Well when I was talking about how it worked and they found out it could also monitor staff of the church/school all hell broke loose and I was told that in no way could it monitor anyone but the students. Lol Now what do you suppose all these religious people where looking at on the internet that they did not want anyone to know about? lol

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LadyLuv CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1495 Champaign, IL Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #16 - May 10^th, 2010 at 12:28pm M.R. wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 4:43pm: Mike Now Ruthie, with talk like that, you might want to be careful. You could be labeled as one of those racist teabagers, too.
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Reply #17 - May 10^th, 2010 at 12:57pm

BarbaraD wrote on May 10^th, 2010 at 3:02am:

Actually a "hair folical" works better (and longer). Harder to "fake"...

And "yes" the system is broken, but "fixable" -- everything is fixable - just take some effort (and a NEW Congress willing to do it!).

I'm for passing a law that a BILL cannot be over 10 pages long -- by doing this it would eliminate all BS, cut out all unnecessary lawyer talk, elimate pork barrell stuff and get it in plain talk where someone could understand it. When debate time came - it would be easy -- it say THIS- what's to argue... let's get 'r done!!! Maybe then our LEGISLATORS could READ the damn things!!!

Every single dad-gummed bill anybody wants to be passed MUST be a stand-alone (no add on, no pork, no nuttin), up-down vote in both the house and senate. Imagine how many pages would have to be read by all of our (all parties included here) imbecilic people running our government - one or two pages max? Then, let's hear from them that they didn't have time to read the two pages.

Goodby to all of them -from every party.

Think this will ever happen?

Doubt it - at least not in my lifetime!

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Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2010 at 1:17pm

LadyLuv wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 1:54pm:

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their rear-end doing drugs while I work.

ok but what about smoking some pot then re roofing your garage or maybe clearing some brush on your own property while laid off from the job you get wiz quizzed for.

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deltadarlin CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 3823 Downsville LA Gender:	Re: TO PEE OR NOT TO PEE Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2010 at 6:13pm The biggest problem with drug testing is just what johnny posted. It does not tell you if that person is partaking now, only that they have.
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