Melissa wrote on May 28^th, 2010 at 2:15pm:

Unfortunately, Las Vegas, NV is a scary place to live, much different residing here than visiting as a tourist.  Been here 18 years and 2 days, changed for the worse over the years.

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Oh, I am so happy someone picked up on that besides me. It isn't because I have my head in the sand or anything like that, but I was  I was going to say...the hate mongers like the black Panthers David Duke, Aryan nation the Klan and their ilk is better left to the professionals to determine what their agenda is.  The FBI, Federal, state and local authorities know far better than us what to do.  Reading their propaganda will do nothing but give them extra clicks on vistors who looked at their nonsense.  I have no interest in being a part of that.

Thanks Bill. 

Brew wrote on May 28^th, 2010 at 4:10pm:

Those hate groups ARE my enemy. They HAVE done harm to me, my family, my community, and country. That's why I'm interested, and I'm sure why you are interested in who you identify as your enemy.

As I watch & read what my enemies are thinking, they are reflecting the same sentiments I've heard expressed from the media about the Tea Party. I have made & continue to make the effort to find out what the Tea Party is about firsthand. That's much more that I can say for a lot of people who pre-judge based on media coverage alone.

I was offering my explanation of why some are concerned. That's all.

I think it depends on where you live as to what the tea party members are like.  Not all espouse rabid ideas.

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Nothing is new and it never works. The prospective "replacements" are nothing to write home about.

The Tea Party is like a schizophrenic libertarian mob. "I want my freedom absolute so long as it doesn't come with responsibility, up and until the moment I need a big brother government to rescue me," and it always come to pass.

They want a political culture where compromise is blocked by lone-wolf cranks. Instead of a Bill Buckley we get pearls of wisdom from Sarah Palin. Ignorance is prized as a healthy political alterative. They could use some "elitists" on the right.

This populism, while looking good to a particular kind of "conservative" brings out the worst of them. Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, and Glenn Beck. These peculiar purists are taking a large bite out of reasoned debate within a once rational Republican Party. The internet hasn't been helpful. It empowers the worst and most obnoxious people on the extreme.

Republicans need better populists.

Charlie

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Tea partiers are very much a fringe group.

They are an unwitting group as a whole a political pawn of many wealthy americans with separate agendas who support all sides. The Koch family are one of the primary supporters along with Scaife, Bradley, Olin and other reliable funders of both right and left wing infrastructure including Exxon Mobil.
Its allways nice to have a group in your hip pocket on all sides of any debate who can be summoned to voice an opinion to help lead a government in any direction as seems right for their needs. Besides who do you think is paying those 100 thousand dollar plus appearance fees the 12 million she will earn this year and providing the jets to cart sara palin around the country where she can get high enough to see russia on the horizon. The same people who helped push oil across Alaska, not that thats a bad thing.

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Only 13 percent of American voters say they are part of the Tea Party movement, a group that has more women than men; is mainly white and Republican and voted for John McCain, and strongly supports Sarah Palin, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.
(considering that only a small percent of americans vote thats a much smaller number than it sounds)

I suspect these reporters are not TP members.
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My apologies to the tea partiers out there. But the reason its gone to tea "baggers" is that ya'all seem to be running around with bags over your heads. Your ok otherwise.  All my inlaws are stuanchly messed up too.
What a great country we live in as some other places I couldnt say that and get away with it.

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No, MJ, that's not what it means at all.

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It's unfortunate that what started out being something good & right, turned into something completely unrecognizable.

Brew wrote on May 29^th, 2010 at 10:25am:

The Tea Party "movement".  I should say that there are many who are NOT extreme who understand the basic intention of less government, but the crazies took over and that's when it really became visible in the mainstream media.

Brew wrote on May 29^th, 2010 at 10:50am:

I meant the crazies have taken over the media, not the tea party.


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Again: Without the liberal media, the tea party thing would be even smaller than it is. They better thank those "big guvmint Nazis" for allowing them to hold up signs and banners showing the President as an evolutionary throwback or worse.

The kind of "conservatism" we see here prides itself not on determining who can speak for the right but who can't. Some to a much lesser degree, can be said of the left but it pales compared to the tea party sign toters.

"Are you or have you ever been a supporter of any bill that a Republican centrist might support?"

Rather than coming up with even a wrong solution, all they do is get together for what amounts to narcissistic tent revivals extolling how great the party of Sarah will be. They remind me of Marlon Brando in "The Wild One" where when asked what he might be protesting against, said: "Whatya got?"

Charlie