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May 28th, 2010 at 1:22am
 
No CH all day today.  And I am in bed talking with my wife.  Hear some thunder and see flashes of lightning and I say
"Oh cool, looks like we are getting a storm."  So we go to sleep and 10 minutes later I am awakened with a shadow.  5 minutes later I am at a level 7 and climbing.  Probably hit an 8.  This started and hour and a half ago.  It is now finally at a 2-3.  Anyway, I thought to myself "was this caused by that storm?"  Went online and sure enough there is a big old low pressure system smack over the state of Delaware.  Who freaking knows.  I just want to sleep.
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Reply #1 - May 28th, 2010 at 9:22am
 
I'm fortunate in that weather changes have never been a trigger for me. Many on the board, like you, can almost forecast the weather by their hits!

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Reply #2 - May 28th, 2010 at 10:59am
 
I have always wondered if pressure systems in weather caused this to start up. Mine are usually in Spring or Fall. I thought it was stress, but I'm stressed out usually constant all year. So, I wondered if there is a list of amount of sufferers in different states and different climates. Which state has the least and maybe if they have less attacks? I thought maybe moving to a different climate could help, though impossible for me at this time. Just curious.
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Reply #3 - May 28th, 2010 at 11:16am
 
From reading posts here, pressure changes seems to be a trigger for many.

I was on a flight today and felt shadows on the way up and on the way down. Thankfully it didn't turn into a full blown attack.
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Reply #4 - May 28th, 2010 at 11:31am
 
Lucidity....that's been discussed a lot. Whether one part of the country/world is better or worse.....pretty much inconclusive. Can you imagine how crowded it would get if you found a part of the world that was impervious to CH? Grin

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Reply #5 - May 28th, 2010 at 11:47am
 
I have definitely noticed more frequent and intense attacks when a  storm is coming or has arrived even to the point my wife has noticed it. As far as locations my only experience to that is I have noticed less frequent and less intense attacks while on vacation and it does not seem to matter where I am, I guess that probably goes to stress being a trigger. Just my 2 cents.

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Reply #6 - May 28th, 2010 at 12:09pm
 
There is a striking absence of medical literature on this topic (including altitude/flying) as associated with, much less identified as causal, and CH.

There is more literature around migraine but I suspect this reflects the large body of migraine research and how little $ is directed exclusively to CH.

The most recent article I found was a single case of CH induced by flying which responded only to oxygen whereas the usual abortives failed. Can't read much into single case studies.
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Reply #7 - May 28th, 2010 at 2:13pm
 
Mine seem to be triggered by weather/barometric pressure patterns too..  But the weird part is, once the cycle begins, it continues despite the weather, and then eventually ends no matter what the weather is.
In other words, my CH may be triggered by weather/baro pressure, but once it starts, it does it's thing regardless of any weather and then usually stays away for a year. (Hopefully) It's hard to pin down specifics with this condition.

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Reply #8 - May 28th, 2010 at 3:25pm
 
CHSteve's last sentence is the key.

The issue is that "correlation is not causation", the old saw which means--just because two things occur one after the other does not mean that the first event caused the second.
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Reply #9 - May 28th, 2010 at 4:58pm
 
Too bad the info is so absent Bob. All I know is I'm not a CH sufferer but I get obnoxious headaches during barometric changes! (Nothing like ya'll experience though I'm sure).
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Reply #10 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 6:15am
 
Yeah, a geographical map would be so interesting to see.  Mine also have only occurred in the spring (knock on wood)
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Reply #11 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:29am
 
back in september i was out fishin with the pops, catchin some nice walleye, a nine pounder to start the day followed by a tasty 5 pounder, couldnt ask for a better day until about 1130 when dasrk clouds rolled up and the wind changed, imitrex shot would touch the headache

needles to say we came in due to my pain 9-22 was the day, the solstice or sumthin like that the day that the night becomes longer than the day. hypothalamus games so to speak

i too am affected by pressure changes, when the wind picks up  i know they are coming cloudy overcast days is exactly how i feel, but the bright blue sky hot days i get them too, never a happy medium of weather. especially in new york where the weather can change every hour on the hour
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Reply #12 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 8:30pm
 
My attacks are more reliable than the weather forecast.
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Reply #13 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 3:12pm
 
we have storms forecast for tonight /tomorrow it been hot to day , for England, and it's humid too . It clouded over late this afternoon and now i feel like i have an elephant siting on my head , sort of pressure and throbbing on my right side ,ch side. Hope this isn't going to be the start of my next cycle.   Embarrassed

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Reply #14 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 6:47am
 
I believe mine predict the weather also.  Last cycle got mine in winter, which is rare for me because it's usually spring and fall.  Wouldn't you know, we got more snow last winter than I can remember getting for many years.
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Reply #15 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 9:36am
 
Just a heads up Billie...if you're as young as you look in your picture! CH can take a while to settle into patterns. Mine had no discernable patterns from my late teens into my early 20's. Then they settled into a 2 cycle a year, spring and fall, 8-12 week pattern you could build a calendar around.

I hit my mid 40's and they went all over the place, 8 month cycles, 2 year remissions. My point being, don't try and get comfy with his patterns, he morphs a lot! Wink

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Reply #16 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 9:46am
 
The rate of the rise or fall of the barometer does affect my CH.   I've noticed that any more than .02 points difference in an hour, more often than not will send me to CH hit hell. 

The running all be it not so funny joke in our family is; "Want to know what the weather will be like ?  Just ask one of us we can tell you more accurately than the weather man."   Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 11:23am
 
Continuing to add my two cents, I have been busting for almost a month and I have been down to two mild hits a day easily aborted with 02 till yesterday. We had severe thunder storms all day and I had four attacks with two of them difficult to abort with 02. Again not real scientific but we have the same weather forecast today so we shall see.
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Reply #18 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 3:00pm
 
Haven't got hit yet ,YAY, but we still have the threat of thunder storms for the next couple of days and my head still feels like I've got an elephant sitting on it .

wonder if it's air pressure or the increase of electrostatic potential that's triggering this, because we've not had much of a change in air pressure and thunder storms are being mentioned allot by others here.

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Reply #19 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 5:42pm
 
me too the only possible trigger i think i can see is weather.with best enviroment very high temperature so nights are hot too,no wind at all,or maybe a bit of south warm wind and minor humidity,and no a/c as the sudden changes from room to  room,or from/to outdoor is a possible trigger.Except if there is a bigger chain of cycles which happens to chronics too and whatever my suspicions are,beast laughs...

i wonder if we have any members here who live nearby.Maybe a few kilometres/miles where weather is the same and tried to see with a diary if crisis are following a weather pattern?

it would be very interesting if it could be done something like this,eliminating other possible triggers
like a drink for istance to see if this theory stands.At least as an experiment.
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Reply #20 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 5:52pm
 
Had thunder storm today...also had a visit from the beast. It was a difficult hit to abort had to go for imitrex as nothing else was working.  Now I'm exhausted...    Shocked
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Reply #21 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 6:39pm
 
noticed years ago that  I frequently was wearing sunglasses on the way to the o2 shop...thought it was the bright light...but that wasn't consistent...it was the high pressure systems....

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Reply #22 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 7:17pm
 
Even out of cycle bright light feels like a knife in my right eye, sunny or cloudy I nearly always go out side with my sun glasses on , but then I always did find bright light hard work even before CH.

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Reply #23 - Jul 23rd, 2010 at 1:25am
 
Cold fronts moving in , kick my ass!
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Reply #24 - Jul 25th, 2010 at 10:45pm
 
what if weather has something to do with this

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Sweating allows the body to regulate its temperature. Sweating is controlled from a center in the preoptic and anterior regions of the hypothalamus, where thermosensitive neurons are located. The heat-regulatory function of the hypothalamus is also affected by inputs from temperature receptors in the skin. High skin temperature reduces the hypothalamic set point for sweating and increases the gain of the hypothalamic feedback system in response to variations in core temperature. Overall, however, the sweating response to a rise in hypothalamic ('core') temperature is much larger than the response to the same increase in average skin temperature. The process of sweating decreases core temperature, whereas the process of evaporation decreases surface temperature.

There are two situations in which our nerves will stimulate sweat glands, making us sweat: during physical heat and emotional stress. In general, emotionally induced sweating is restricted to palms, soles, and sometimes the forehead, while physical heat-induced sweating occurs throughout the body. [10]

Sweat is not pure water; it always contains a small amount (0.2–1%) of solute. When a person moves from a cold climate to a hot climate, adaptive changes occur in the sweating mechanisms of the person. This process is referred to as acclimatisation: the maximum rate of sweating increases and its solute composition decreases. The volume of water lost in sweat daily is highly variable, ranging from 100 to 8,000 mL/day. The solute loss can be as much as 350 mmol/day (or 90 mmol/day acclimatised) of sodium under the most extreme conditions. In a cool climate and in the absence of exercise, sodium loss can be very low (less than 5 mmols/day). Sodium concentration in sweat is 30-65 mmol/l, depending on the degree of acclimatisation.


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it's a very interesting article

moreover another article on thermoregulation says
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The skin assists in homeostasis (keeping different aspects of the body constant e.g. temperature). It does this by reacting differently to hot and cold conditions so that the inner body temperature remains more or less constant. Vasodilation and sweating are the primary modes by which humans attempt to lose excess body heat. The brain creates much heat through the countless reactions which occur. Even the process of thought creates heat. The head has a complex system of blood vessels, which keeps the brain from overheating by bringing blood to the thin skin on the head, allowing heat to escape. The effectiveness of these methods is influenced by the character of the climate and the degree to which the individual is acclimatized.



now the only thing i found till now on perspiration and ch is this

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and now i ve got a tension headache with all these Cheesy
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