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These guys have a point:

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Think anyone at the top is listening?

Have you seen any other solutions across the web?  Post them here, it'd be neat to see!
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Reply #2 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:19pm
 
Penalize  BP CEO Tony Hayward 1 million dollars a day from his personal bank account for every day the spill continues.

Should be fixed in a couple of days.
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Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:20pm
 
Johnny, although I love Colbert, I was being serious.

The hay and hair to soak up the oil once it hits shore (or just offshore) are real solutions to clean up.  What I want to see is if there is anything else by real, everyday people that could work?
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Reply #4 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:32pm
 
Melissa wrote on Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:20pm:
Johnny, although I love Colbert, I was being serious.


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-johnny- wrote on Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:32pm:
Melissa wrote on Jun 4th, 2010 at 4:20pm:
Johnny, although I love Colbert, I was being serious.


im sorry mel  Grin

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Reply #6 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 3:00pm
 
Hair salons across the country are collecting cut hair and sending it to an organization who then is stuffing the hair into nylon stockings to make a boom line to stop the oil from coming in to shore.  BP politely told them to please do not do this, but I couldn't find an explanation as to why not.

Well, did a little research and found this little tidbit.  Unless the hair cuticle is attached to the strand of hair - it will sink!

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So much for that idea Undecided

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Reply #7 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 3:55pm
 
Sandy_C wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 3:00pm:
Well, did a little research and found this little tidbit.  Unless the hair cuticle is attached to the strand of hair - it will sink!

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Very interesting!  But the idea can still be used for the shorelines!
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Reply #8 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:32pm
 
I agree, shorelines only. But how far out?

Once you get into a little depth, however, looks like even more clean up would be required.  Not only the oil coming from the spill which is now washing over the top of the sunken hair booms, but also the hair booms themselves laying on the bottom.

Hope those trying to use the hair boom realize that it's only good in very shallow waters.

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Reply #9 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 10:04am
 
Part of the problem for the booms closer in is that you are already getting into the marshlands/wetlands.  Any further out and who's going to monitor the booms to see that they don't get a chance to sink?

Where are all the big stars that are eco-friendly?  Where are the major starts that live in New Orleans?  Why don't you see them out there raising money for these families that have lost their livelihood?  Kevin Costner is the ONLY one who has stepped up to do shit.

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Reply #10 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 12:05pm
 
Originally posted 5-12-2010:

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I also found this regarding hay/straw as an oil spill tool/technique.

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ay Was Used Successfully On The
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1969 Santa Barbara Oil Spill
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Skimmers scooped up oil from the surface of the ocean. In the air, planes dumped detergents on the tar covered ocean in an attempt to break up the slick. On the beaches and harbors, straw was spread on oily patches of water and sand. The straw soaked up the black mess and was then raked up. Rocks were steamed cleaned, cooking marine life like limpets and mussels that attach themselves to coastal rocks.

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Reply #11 - Jun 6th, 2010 at 4:11pm
 
Again, that might work on open water/beaches, but I don't see where it would work on the estuaries and marshlands.  And again,  it would have to be monitered 24/7 by somebody.
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Reply #12 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:42am
 
Where are all the heros from PETA ? This is their chance to finally do something thats usefull.
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The "Heros" from PETA are all out checking with lawyers to see how much they can cash in on all the lawsuits which will be coming shortly.
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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:23pm
 
Linda_Howell wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 12:35pm:
The "Heros" from PETA are all out checking with lawyers to see how much they can cash in on all the lawsuits which will be coming shortly.


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you'd think  PETA would be all over this
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Reply #16 - Jun 10th, 2010 at 6:46am
 
This may sound a little simplistic, but what about oil tankers and vaccums? Can't they hit some of those things that are under the water and vaccum them into the tankers?

The oil might not be usable, but it would keep it from spreading...
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BarbaraD wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 6:46am:
This may sound a little simplistic, but what about oil tankers and vaccums? Can't they hit some of those things that are under the water and vaccum them into the tankers?

The oil might not be usable, but it would keep it from spreading...

I don't know if that'd suck with more force than the propulsion of the oil gushing out?? 

I wish they'd let Kevin Costner's machines go in there and start working to separate the oil from the water.  It was invented back when "Waterworld" was made 20 years ago.
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This may sound a little simplistic, but what about oil tankers and vaccums? Can't they hit some of those things that are under the water and vaccum them into the tankers?

The oil might not be usable, but it would keep it from spreading...


I heard that they did this for a huge oil spill in the Persian Gulf that no one much knew about.

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seaworthy wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:42am:
Where are all the heros from PETA ? This is their chance to finally do something thats usefull.



Probably talking to their lawyers with their hands out just waiting to rake in some cash from lawsuits against everybody and their brothers!  They are never there to help with a clean up of some environmental disaster - just to prosecute later.

Let them get their hands dirty just once.  Don't hold your breath!

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We're talking about the oil spill here so I've got a question. 

This is without doubt a major environmental disaster in the Gulf. 

Who built the well and its BOP (blow out preventer) and the three "fail safe backups for that BOP?  Answer: Transocean

Who owns the well.  Answer: Transocean

Who provided the concrete to build that well: Answer: Haliburten

Who leases and runs that well:  BP

Who is responsible for maintaining that well: Answer BP

Who is responsible for checking that well, making sure it meets all standards and functions properly: Answer: Federal Government

Who passed that well stating it functioned properly: Answer Federal Government

Who is responsible for the failure of that well:  Answer: Transocean, Haliburten , BP and Federal Government

Who is working and attempting to clean up the spill: BP

Who is paying for not only the stoppage of the spill but the clean up, compensation to the fisherman, compensation for the loss of tourism, compensation for everything: BP

Why is it that we are not seeing anything in either monetary or actual physical attempts to help stop this spill and pay the astronomical costs for clean up, loss of business, tourism etc coming anyone other than BP?

Why is BP being held solely responsible for all costs?

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Sandy_C wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
We're talking about the oil spill here so I've got a question.

If I'm counting correctly, it looks like you had 12 total questions, 10 of which you provided answers to. That would mean you have 2 questions. Wink
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Brew wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:02pm:
Sandy_C wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
We're talking about the oil spill here so I've got a question.

If I'm counting correctly, it looks like you had 12 total questions, 10 of which you provided answers to. That would mean you have 2 questions. Wink

Which no one has the answer to....   Wink



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Reply #23 - Jun 10th, 2010 at 2:52pm
 
Some type of legal insurance battle looks to be in the background, not that it matters to the surrounding publically violated concerns since it's so overwhelming.



The twin towers had one, it got really out there in airy defining, based on whether or not both towers were considered one incident.  The dif meant billion type dollars to owners.  There were comparisons to if the two atom bombs in Japan were considered one incident or two.  Based on the plan, one, went the arguments for a single incident.
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Melissa wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 9:57am:
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I wish they'd let Kevin Costner's machines go in there and start working to separate the oil from the water.  It was invented back when "Waterworld" was made 20 years ago.


i saw him on c-span last night. i think they should go for it. anything is better than nothing. its got to be better than breaking it up with detergent.

whatever costner spends on it he can send the bill to BP
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