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Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Jun 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm
 
Remember when I told you about the physician who recorded his evaluation of me BEFORE he examined me?

Well today I got a copy of the letter he sent to work comp.  It said I couldn't have cluster headaches because I'm female.

Oh, I am seriously considering filing a complaint with the medical board, just to ENSURE SOMEONE tells this a**&#(% that women can have cluster headaches.

There were other somewhat insulting aspects to his letter too, but this is the only aspect that seems grossly ignorant for someone who's practicing as a neurologist who supposedly routinely treats cluster headaches.

What do you guys think?

Aside from getting work comp benefits cut off & being obnoxious this isn't a huge inconvenience because I was also covered under disability insurance but it IS obnoxious.  Thoughts?
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Re: Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 6:46pm
 
Your call...I am amazed at how slowly they are acknowledging females and CH. I know I brutally tease Linda that you guys all have migrains and fake drama by calling it CH......but sadly you have about 30 years of  what they call "known facts" to overcome.

I was at my neuro yesterday and he had one of those big phamaceutical ads for some migrain drug hanging up with a detailed analysis of the 3 major headache types, Migrain, Stress and CH, and the ratio of men to women who suffer them. Migrains...3-2.....with more women then men...Clusters??? 10-1...favoring men.

Anybody on this board knows those numbers don't represent reality.......but sadly that's the ingrained doctrine you're up against. (If Linda asks I DID NOT admit women get CH Grin)

Just one more reason to get so damned frustrated at how slow the medical community can be to change.

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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:01pm
 
I don't know anything about the ins and outs of filing complaints with the medical board, but I have to wonder why not?

This utter a-hole so called neurologist should certainly be called out for what he is - a lazy, negligent, extreme ignoramus doing harm.

It's one thing for a neurologist to not know anything about CH, but when one pretends to know the first thing, not bothering to look into it at all, then spews his extremely erroneous conclusions out in a report like this....a report that could prevent a person experiencing the most extreme pain known to medical science from obtaining relief.....well I better stop right there or I'm about to blow a gasket here. Angry
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:03pm
 
Can I post this guy's name here as someone NOT to go to?  Does that violate the agreement in some way or put CH.com at risk for libel?
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Re: Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:35pm
 
I'd certainly be strongly considering a complaint. This person is supposed to have a certain degree of knowledge and experience to be practicing as a neurologist. Apart from the fact that he did the examination after he wrote the report (very lazy), which to my minds is grounds alone for a complaint, he has shown a pretty fundamental lack of knowledge in an area where he should be competent.

Having some idea of how lawyers work in the US, a neurologist who appears to not be competent and lazy is someone who could very easily be a huge financial liability for his employers and insurers. What else is he getting wrong?
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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:37pm
 
Filing complaints against egotistical uneducated doctors does nothing to help the cause. You cant break through the arrogance to change the ignorance.

File an appeal with workmens comp if you need to but other than that just find a Doc that can treat you properly if you haven't already.
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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 9:24pm
 
God it drives me crazy!!!!  At least admit that you are unsure of what to do about your problem, and research it a little bit.  I guess his oversized head cant admit to not knowing the best treatment.
  I think weve all been there.  Stupid jerk

sorry, was I ranting?

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Re: Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 9:38pm
 
why do these people get involved with medicine in first place?

since i am from another country can't say much as i dont know how things work there except that if you can afford it,go for it.
If not for you for the shake of the next one who will be unlucky as you to stand in the line of that idiot.


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Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 9:51pm
 
That's why they call it practicing medicine.

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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 10:56pm
 
You can, and probably should file a complaint about this doctor. There are also on-line reviews of doctors so you can probably post your experience there.

Finding a GOOD doctor is ultimately more important for you.

Best of luck and sorry for your treatment at the hands of an a@@...

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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 7:09am
 
You haven't said whether or not you still need this doctor for anything: meds, referrals, that kind of thing. I know they are supposed to be immune from personal feelings (hah!) but if you need him, and you file against him, you'll probably lose the services. If you do decide to file perhaps you ought to replace him first. Just a thought.
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Re: Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 8:38am
 
I'm a bit confused here.  Have they cut you off WC?  From what I remember, one has to be able to return to work without limitations before benefits can be terminated.

That aside, what you could do is have your treating physican send a letter to this doctor and the insuror, correcting this doctor's misinformation.

Also, this is copied from the AMA website

Principles of Medical Ethics
Preamble
The medical profession has long subscribed to a body of ethical statements developed primarily for the benefit of the patient. As a member of this profession, a physician must recognize responsibility to patients first and foremost, as well as to society, to other health professionals, and to self. The following Principles adopted by the American Medical Association are not laws, but standards of conduct which define the essentials of honorable behavior for the physician.

Principles of medical ethics
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.

II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.

III. A physician shall respect the law and also recognize a responsibility to seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient.

IV. A physician shall respect the rights of patients, colleagues, and other health professionals, and shall safeguard patient confidences and privacy within the constraints of the law.

V. A physician shall continue to study, apply, and advance scientific knowledge, maintain a commitment to medical education, make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public, obtain consultation, and use the talents of other health professionals when indicated.
VI. A physician shall, in the provision of appropriate patient care, except in emergencies, be free to choose whom to serve, with whom to associate, and the environment in which to provide medical care.

VII. A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health.

VIII. A physician shall, while caring for a patient, regard responsibility to the patient as paramount.

IX. A physician shall support access to medical care for all people.
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Re: Should I file a complaint with the medical board?
Reply #12 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 4:17pm
 
IF his action has cost you some benefit I should think you have cause to complain.

I would, in any case, dig up some MEDICAL literature which shows the rate of female CH and use that data as the basis of the complaint, avioiding any personal comments about his character, style, etc. Use his own professional evidence against him, in other words.
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Reply #13 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 5:13pm
 
I agree with Bob.
A complaint in and of itself is fine but to be taken seriously you do not want to come off as hysterical or someone with an axe to grind (not that you would or do come off that way but the point remains).

Base the complaint in facts - i.e. that he categorically stated that women can't get CH (which is just a plain old ignorant statement...) and these erroneous statements caused you such and such damage or distress. 

As for the dictation prior to the appt, the permissibility of that action is dependent on HOW MUCH he dictated - i.e. if he was dictating the history of the event, the past medical history, the social or family history - these are permissible.  If he dictated the subjective part of the note - i.e. the part of the note in which the patient discusses his/her symptoms or concerns in his/her own words - PRIOR to actually getting that information from the patient, well, that's a no-no to say the least...
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Reply #14 - Jun 18th, 2010 at 1:58pm
 
Katherinecm wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:03pm:
Can I post this guy's name here as someone NOT to go to?  Does that violate the agreement in some way or put CH.com at risk for libel?


I broached the same subject here before.

I believe doctors refusing treatment, mistreating, or doing harm to CH patients should be called out by name and we should have a sticky topic or link especially for that.

There was another opinion offered that this would be a witch hunt, or that CH.com would be in danger of being sued for libel. That's about as far as the discussion went in that particular topic.

I seriously doubt that the libel fear is justified, there are plenty of sites where doctors are routinely reviewed by patients (but none yet that are helpful to CH patients, we need a focused, specific resource to go to).

Of course neither he who fears libel or myself are legal experts, so we're just kinda talkin'.






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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2010 at 10:59am
 
Do something for all the women who will go after you and who have this wretched affliction.  It doesn't have to take up your whole day, but I agree with Lettucehead above.  Make it short, stick to the facts, and get to the point, but get it on record so he doesn't put this burden of misdiagnosis on anyone else.  I remember what it was like to have my husband misdiagnosed (7 times) and I actually cried when we got a real diagnosis (because I knew he wasn't a hypochondriac, or had sinus infections, or had some emotional disorder, or rotting teeth, or unfocused vision. . .or. . .or. . .)  at this time, I do have to say thank you to the Cleveland Clinic and the National Headache Foundation and a very good neurologist who finally ended our journey through a forest of doctors who were doing their best but were not informed.  Doctors are a lot like mechanics, they troubleshoot, and sometimes they don't get it right, but if they don't know something exists (and who could know about everything) they can't diagnose it properly.
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Make it short, stick to the facts, and get to the point, but get it on record so he doesn't put this burden of misdiagnosis on anyone else.

Yep. Do exactly that. And then move on. Life is too short to wallow in the shortcomings of others.
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 3:50pm
 
Brew wrote on Jun 20th, 2010 at 11:07am:
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Make it short, stick to the facts, and get to the point, but get it on record so he doesn't put this burden of misdiagnosis on anyone else.

Yep. Do exactly that. And then move on. Life is too short to wallow in the shortcomings of others.


And then, if that doesn't work. Write the letter of letters to him and make sure he understands how you REALLY feel about him....    Angry
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Reply #18 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 3:36am
 
Many large organizations like hospitals and other self insured org's
(for profit non profits)
are often the ones who fight the hardest against Work Comp cases.

Generally they will have a doc on retainer they will insist you see who will generate a report disputing the diagnosis and try to put it to rest. Its evil and sleazy but the way its done in this country many times to avoid paying out claims.

These same docs will provide reports and expert written testimony in hundreds of cases a year. How they sleep I'll never know.
If the claim is bonafide one must fight evil doctors with good doctors and attorneys. For a potential long term claim where your legs didnt come off this can take years. Then if you win, they the liable party try to pawn you off onto social security disability after a year and will often provide you an attorney to help with that to reduce their payouts.
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