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Reply #50 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:54pm
 
Guiseppi wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 10:51am:
I know it's tough with family....but DAMNIT!!!!! Angry Depriving a CH'er of oxygen is like denying insulin to a diabetic. It's cruel and heartless. Please print this out and take it to your uncle. Tell him I mean no disrespect, but he is denying you relief from your suffering and deliberately causing you harm....in voilation of the oath he took. 32 year of CH and NOTHING has done more to provide a normal life for me then oxygen. I'm from a family of 14 brothers and sisters, we now number well over 150, so I am very sympathetic to family dynamics......this is bigger then that. Good luck!

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Honestly, i will print this out and show him.  I know he means me NO harm, and he does NOT want to see me suffer, however I think that there is an elevated concern to do the right thing and take every precaution because I am family..... Thank You Joe.....
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Reply #51 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:58pm
 
Lettucehead wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 9:56pm:
I have to agree with Joe, I must say.
Generally, this is why it is very frowned upon to be the medical provider to your family - even extended family such as a nephew.  Not unethical exactly, but very frowned upon.

I mean (and perhaps you would) but would you feel comfortable discussing your rectal bleeding or your erectile dysfunction with your uncle?  Or what about your concerns that you're gay or have violent fantasies?  Again, not that you do, but you need to feel able to talk about those things with your doctor if you should need to and feel no judgment or conflict of interest.

Just saying, but unless your uncle is the only provider in town, you owe it to yourself to make sure you're getting the best care possible...



Well, as long as I can remember he has been my doc, and trust me it has its benifits as well.  I never wait to see the doc, I never need to make an appointment, etc etc... so the pros and cons balance.....  He is not the only provider in the area, in fact in HIS office there are multiple physicians.  Its just a matter of loyalty.

As previously stated, I am not arguing with anyone that i feel Im not being handled correctly, I just the the apprehensiveness of the unknown is what is a delay for me.  I give blood , I will do an MRI... because in the docs mind, eveything needs to be ruled out..... I understand that...  My question is, WHY NOT JUST WING IT, LET ME GET THE o2, and I WILL STILL TAKE THE OTHER TESTS... IF THE O2 WORKS, I WILL STILL DO WHAT I GOTTA DO, IF IT DOESNT, WELL AT LEAST I KNOW CUZ I TRIED...


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Reply #52 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 1:32am
 
POPO8 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:58pm:
[quote author=0808020B0F06630 link=1279512611/45#45 date=1280541362]WHY NOT JUST WING IT, LET ME GET THE o2, and I WILL STILL TAKE THE OTHER TESTS... IF THE O2 WORKS, I WILL STILL DO WHAT I GOTTA DO, IF IT DOESNT, WELL AT LEAST I KNOW CUZ I TRIED...
Thank You again everyone. 


I gotta agree.  Do the tests.  Have the MRI.  But in the meantime, I should hope that you could get treatment for the pain as best you can!  Even better if that treatment were non-toxic, non-addicting, comparatively inexpensive... oh wait!  It is!!!  o2o2o2o2!

sorry, I just really dislike hearing you suffer when something so simple could help...   Sad
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Reply #53 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:43am
 
POPO8 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:54pm:
Honestly, i will print this out and show him.  I know he means me NO harm, and he does NOT want to see me suffer, however I think that there is an elevated concern to do the right thing and take every precaution because I am family


Some good info to print out and to give to your GP is what Bob_Johnson posted when I did my initial post - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register - his post is the 5th dne and it has two great articles about treatment options, including oxygen.


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Reply #54 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 11:35pm
 
Lettucehead wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 1:32am:
POPO8 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:58pm:
[quote author=0808020B0F06630 link=1279512611/45#45 date=1280541362]WHY NOT JUST WING IT, LET ME GET THE o2, and I WILL STILL TAKE THE OTHER TESTS... IF THE O2 WORKS, I WILL STILL DO WHAT I GOTTA DO, IF IT DOESNT, WELL AT LEAST I KNOW CUZ I TRIED...
Thank You again everyone. 


I gotta agree.  Do the tests.  Have the MRI.  But in the meantime, I should hope that you could get treatment for the pain as best you can!  Even better if that treatment were non-toxic, non-addicting, comparatively inexpensive... oh wait!  It is!!!  o2o2o2o2!

sorry, I just really dislike hearing you suffer when something so simple could help...   Sad



I dislike it also man....lol.   Well hopefully when the blood work comes back I will meet with my uncle and I will take MORE stuff to show him and more knowledge to share, and MAYBE.... just MAYBE i can convince him...


On a brighter note.... I made it the last two nights sleeping straight thru without a Headache.... however tonight I was drinking at a wedding reception.... lets see how this goes.... i will be sleeping on the couch, so I dont disrupt her when IT attacks.... Im bracing for it....
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Reply #55 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 11:36pm
 
Mike NZ wrote on Jul 31st, 2010 at 2:43am:
POPO8 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:54pm:
Honestly, i will print this out and show him.  I know he means me NO harm, and he does NOT want to see me suffer, however I think that there is an elevated concern to do the right thing and take every precaution because I am family


Some good info to print out and to give to your GP is what Bob_Johnson posted when I did my initial post - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register - his post is the 5th dne and it has two great articles about treatment options, including oxygen.





DONE,.... thank You, I will take the pertinent parts with me....
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Reply #56 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 4:39pm
 
Just wanted to keep everyone updated..... NOTHING yet.  lol


Fortunatley Ive slept three nites without the beast.
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Reply #57 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 5:40pm
 
3 nights without the beast is HEAVEN!!! Wink

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Reply #58 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 7:19pm
 
Three nights sleep ahhhh  That is fantastic news.  Glad to hear it  Smiley
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Reply #59 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 10:19pm
 
Thank You Joe and Kate... it was a realy big deal to me also....   Its like a little bit of that peace..........
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Reply #60 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 12:15am
 
Saw my uncle/doc today, when i stopped by to take my cousin out driving (just got his permit....)  and got the short version re my bloodwork.... everything looks good, cholesterol is a lil high (runs in my fam, no suprise)..... tick tock.... tick tock..... tick tock..... waiting for MRI apt now......
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Reply #61 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 12:29pm
 
Hello popo.

Let me just say, I was amazed at the brutally honest self portrait in your intro. You seem to be a stand up kind of guy. Very noble indeed.

But it absolutely sickins me that a police officer cannot cut through the red tape that binds his uncle doc! FOR OXYGEN?

Popo, where is your families compassion?

Family first?! You cant get oxygen from your uncle. Sounds like professionalism first to me.

I dont mean to be rude or blunt. But is our medical system THAT ignorant? Do WE hold our professionals to these high standards and expect them to suffer needlessly because of your professions? NO, in my opinion we dont.

Ask for help popo. Its not weak. Then maybe you and your uncle can tell our story to everyone else in your professions and establish some compassion where its been lost.

I understand the professions you and your uncle have chosen are compassionate in and of themselves. But if you look back over your posts, you might better understand my point.

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Reply #62 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 12:46pm
 
1haunted1   ,-( wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 12:29pm:
Hello popo.

Let me just say, I was amazed at the brutally honest self portrait in your intro. You seem to be a stand up kind of guy. Very noble indeed.

But it absolutely sickins me that a police officer cannot cut through the red tape that binds his uncle doc! FOR OXYGEN?

Popo, where is your families compassion?

Family first?! You cant get oxygen from your uncle. Sounds like professionalism first to me.

I dont mean to be rude or blunt. But is our medical system THAT ignorant? Do WE hold our professionals to these high standards and expect them to suffer needlessly because of your professions? NO, in my opinion we dont.

Ask for help popo. Its not weak. Then maybe you and your uncle can tell our story to everyone else in your professions and establish some compassion where its been lost.

I understand the professions you and your uncle have chosen are compassionate in and of themselves. But if you look back over your posts, you might better understand my point.

good luck popo.



Well thank you... I do try to be as stand up as I possibly can.  Im the guy that would rather have people hate me for being who I am than love me for being fake.....

I logged on today with the intentions of reviewing my post to look over my time line, so its ironic that you suggest I review my thread... because that is what I will do soon as I finish typing this.

Your right it is frustrationg, and I think it has realy helped my patience with the situation because I have been on a short streak of NO attacks, which makes it realy easy to lapse into the IM BETTER mentality. I push to remember the fear I hold of the next attact to keep me motivated.

I spent 1 hr on the phone today with the Dr Office and Med insurance because of complications that were making it dificult to set up the MRI that I know will not tell me anything......

Either way newest update, Im on 5 or 6 days of No headaches.  I will meet with Uncle/Dr next week for a follow up (my work schedule sucks) and  my MRI is still THREE WEEKS IN THE FUTURe.... ugh......
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Reply #63 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 1:26pm
 
One more suggestion popo.

If you have children or plan to. Dont make them get through the red tape. Guide them through it and break this cycle of whats percieved to be right or wrong, or weak and strong. Let them pressures go. Do it for YOURSELF. Do it for your family and their families and thiers.
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Reply #64 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 9:27pm
 
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One more suggestion popo.

If you have children or plan to. Dont make them get through the red tape. Guide them through it and break this cycle of whats percieved to be right or wrong, or weak and strong. Let them pressures go. Do it for YOURSELF. Do it for your family and their families and thiers.



Well I do not have any children, and maybe someday I will.  I will def do my best to break the cycle of ignorance to this condition......  Thank You


BTW, same day update....   I figured with the fact that I made it the last 5 days clean from headaches, I would enjoy my only day off this week with two drinks......  BACKFIRE!!!!!  4 hour attack!!!!!   PREDNISONE...nothing.    REDBULL....nothing  ICE....nothing.   HEAT PADS....nothing!!!!!  I just dealt with it for nearly 4 hours till it was totally gone.......
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Reply #65 - Aug 3rd, 2010 at 9:37pm
 
Sounds like you learnt that lesson the hard way Wink

Alcohol is the big no no during a cycle...
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Reply #66 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 2:33am
 
Kate in Oz wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 9:37pm:
Sounds like you learnt that lesson the hard way Wink

Alcohol is the big no no during a cycle...



However with 5 days off without headaches, wouldnt you believe you were off cycle?
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Reply #67 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 4:06am
 
POPO8 wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 9:27pm:
I figured with the fact that I made it the last 5 days clean from headaches, I would enjoy my only day off this week with two drinks......


Gotta be pretty careful even if it's ending.  So close to CH activity it seems to fade or weaken, not gone or turned off like a switch.  Give this bear more time to settle its restlessness and get into deep hibernation.  After five days, if it's aroused by the smell of blood from a wounded jack rabbit set down outside it's den, there's more willingness left than a sleepy-dampened growl to devour any easy final meals.    Smiley
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Reply #68 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:28am
 
POPO8 wrote on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 9:27pm:
Well I do not have any children, and maybe someday I will.  I will def do my best to break the cycle of ignorance to this condition......  Thank You


BTW, same day update....   I figured with the fact that I made it the last 5 days clean from headaches, I would enjoy my only day off this week with two drinks......  BACKFIRE!!!!!  4 hour attack!!!!!   PREDNISONE...nothing.    REDBULL....nothing  ICE....nothing.   HEAT PADS....nothing!!!!!  I just dealt with it for nearly 4 hours till it was totally gone.......
At this point you need to take matters into your own hands.  Go for the welders oxygen.  That cluster could have been beaten with O2 if used correctly.  You can take the other stuff and just throw it out the window when you're into a dandy attack.  The energy drinks help after O2 for me for whatever shadows are lingering and I use ice while sucking on the tank if it's that severe.  If your uncle can't see that his own family member is in pain, I feel very little for him and it's time to move on...but that choice is yours.  Is he afraid to prescribe O2?  Has he ever prescribed it before?  Does he have any neurology background? 

You can get your own mask here at the CH.com store, a regulator online or Ebay and a tank at your local welding supplier.  Have any buddies who weld?  If you can get your own O2 w/o a script, you'd be saving yourself a ton of pain and you can prove to your uncle that it indeed works.  Did you present to him the "oxygen info" from this site, make him watch any Youtube videos of fellow clusterheads using O2 to abort.  If he can't figure it out by then, maybe he is one of those ego doctors who are ignorant to their patients.  Sorry to rant, but I hate to see you suffer in pain.  Like others said, keep the alcohol aside till you're in remission.

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Reply #69 - Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:41pm
 
Is welders o2 "pure" enough... or safe enough as a medical grade 02???

That was my thought initially when it started.  You know I have been reading and researching and this stuff just keeps confusing the hell out or me.... HOW MUCH O2?  do I get a big bottle or several small ones?

Im worried because I have an 800 mile (one way) road trip coming up first wknd of September and If I have one of these attacks while driving, I will SKITS in the car.... My gf is going with me and we are taking my "hot rod" which is stick, and she cant drive stick so that leaves me behind the wheel...

I feel so OVERWHELMED!!!! Its like I just got an ANCHOR permanantly attached to my ass, and everywhere I go , everything I do.... i gotta watch when its gonna get hooked on something (metaphor for another attack)

I wish, I could just go to the doc.... say... I found this site.... this IS WHAT I HAVE.... FIX IT!!!!
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POPO8 wrote on Aug 4th, 2010 at 7:41pm:
Is welders o2 "pure" enough... or safe enough as a medical grade 02???

That was my thought initially when it started.  You know I have been reading and researching and this stuff just keeps confusing the hell out or me.... HOW MUCH O2?  do I get a big bottle or several small ones?


There are more precise answers, but welding with oxygen needs to be pure, so it is.   Importantly though, it works. 

Several "E" size tanks might be car-carrying convenient, about 29" tall with a 4" diameter.  I haven't worked with the regulator connection, but a some have here.  You can get a mask by Sep., too.

It matters not if you're out of cycle by then, looking into attaining oxygen now will prepare you for a better experience during an episode, which can frequent unpredictably at an always inconvenient time.

and because...

POPO8 wrote on Jul 27th, 2010 at 9:21pm:
Went to the docs today.....

my suggestion to use O2, is shot down because he says "thats for realy severe cases".... 


could still be resistance getting it prescribed.



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I hang out in a garage on my time off, welding, grinding, painting etc


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Reply #71 - Aug 5th, 2010 at 9:17am
 
POPOB,

You will see that a bunch on here use welders O2.
Kevin_M nailed it.  Welders O2 has to be 100% as well.
Look into the "E" tanks with a CGA-870 fitting for the regulator and if has a DISS fitting on the reg., you'll need that barb adapter which I can send you if you need one.  I have a couple laying around.  Make sure that reg. is at least 15 LPM or higher flow rate.  We will help you get set up without the doctor.  Screw the doctor, just help yourself
and if you get set up before this trip, all you have to do is
pull over, hit the O2, abort and continue driving.  It's that simple.  I was very reluctant at first too because my insurance doesn't cover it, but I said, F it!....it's worth it to pay out of pocket to wipe-out this pain.  I have an "M" and two "E" tanks at all times regardless if i'm in cycle or not.  You got to be ready because you never know when the next cycle starts.
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Reply #72 - Aug 5th, 2010 at 9:43am
 
Thank You guys... its funny you quoted the WELDING comment, because I stare at the tank everytime Im in the shop like its some powerful source right in front of me.... lol


Well a bit of good new, i swung by the docs/uncs today after I got done work at 7am.....  I think he is realizing that this is serious, because my first comment to him was,

"we need to talk, you know I dont like going to doctors or hospitals for....."  he interupted me and said "unless your dying..."  It actually made me feel just the slightest bit of releif and weakness almost, that I felt I may have made some headway...

I took a packet of almost 30 pages of information that I had printed out... he seemed genuinly interested in reading it and understanding it.... I told him I NEED THE 02... I will continue with the program and battery of tests, but I need to try the 02.... his next comment to me was.... let me send you to a neurologist.....

he handed me two names on pieces of paper... local neurologists here in READING that are good friends with him... he said, call their office today and find out if they take your insurance... if they do, I will get you in there within a day or two....

I know its not the o2, and its not the answer, but damn it if I dont feel just a whole lot of pressure removed because I feel someone listening.. (not that all of you are not listening to me here.... and I appreciate it, TY!!!!)... but my doc is listening......

I will keep you all posted.... im exhausted now and I need to go to bed... been up for 23 hours......  My g/f is going to make the calls for me today (I didnt want anyone to think I was procrastinating)


Oh and btw b4 I left the office, he took my BP... It was high... like 150/100  but Im thinking the stress the exhaustion and all the damn prednisone i have been taking may have something to do with it.... he gave me some BP meds to help out (not sure if that helps at all)  but Im down for anything......

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Reply #73 - Aug 5th, 2010 at 10:42pm
 
Well, neither of the neurologists that he suggested accept my med insurance..... thanks KEYSTONE EAST!!!!   Anyways, went on the med ins site and printed out 70+  neurologists that do accept it. I will drop the list off at the Dr office 2moro and hopefully he knows someone and can speed up my process now
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POPO8 wrote on Aug 5th, 2010 at 10:42pm:
went on the med ins site and printed out 70+  neurologists that do accept it. I will drop the list off at the Dr office 2moro and hopefully he knows someone and can speed up my process now


My first neurologist referral by my doc got me diagnosed, but he wasn't too familiar working with clusters, they're not uniformly knowledgeable or experienced with clusters.  Not all visits are the most helpful.  Maybe inquire if they have treated cluster patients or if they can possibly recommend who is known to draw and work with this type of patient. 
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