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Peter B CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 70 Boston, MA Gender:	something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Jul 27^th, 2010 at 9:28pm Just had an attack on a plane - took an imitrix shot but too late - by the time I took the shot we started descending. My head exploded, they called the EMT and wouldn't let me leave the plane until I signed papers saying I didn't have to go to the hospital. That was fun. Loads. Just venting. sigh
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feneq CH.com Junior Offline uncommented Posts: 31 germany Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #1 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 9:37pm there are 5l oyxgen bottles avlbl. - if you tell your airline early enough most airlines accept a small bottle on board, best regards
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Reply #2 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 9:50pm

feneq wrote on Jul 27^th, 2010 at 9:37pm:

there are 5l oyxgen bottles avlbl. - if you tell your airline early enough most airlines accept a small bottle on board,

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Sorry. I'm calling bullshit. I work for an airline. No airline that I know of will allow anything like it on board. At 2000 psi, it is an unexploded bomb.

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feneq CH.com Junior Offline uncommented Posts: 31 germany Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #3 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:08pm excuse me- i might be wrong about us-airlines, i speak for my experience in european flights, i NEVER had problems to take a 5l-bottle onboard declared as medical necessity- it just had to be declared in forward,- please disclaim of saying i'm talking bullshit; i am no encyclopedia, i speak for myself
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Reply #4 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:08pm

I fly in small planes; usually never above 4,000ish feet and don't have a problem so far. However, I plan on flying a lot this fall on commercial flights (I'm a new nana) and so far have not had an episode on a commercial flight. What do we do if it happens? Based on my last 10 or so Kip 9/10 attacks, there is no way I would be able to sit in a seat with my seat belt on while I wait for my abort to work. Do I need to tell someone I may have to get up and pace while chanting the "Ten Little Indian" song? Okay, maybe TMI but I am curious about what others have done when that happens. lib

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Reply #5 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:18pm

Unless they have changed the rules. You cannot bring your own 02 tank on any commercial flight.

However...their are a few aircraft companies that will furnish you with 02 if you have a doctors letter showing necessity. They usually charge $50 to $150 per use and you have to make arrangements ahead of time with the airline. Other aircrafts use concentrators.

But yes.. it is my understanding that aircraft do have 02 tanks on board.

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Reply #6 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:26pm

Of course commercial aircraft have their own supply of pressurized O2 - there has to be enough on board for the crew to safely land the plane in the event of an emergency. None of them allow you to bring your own pressurized bottle. None of them. Battery operated concentrators are a different matter.

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Lettucehead CH.com Old Timer Offline I am very blessed... Posts: 293 Iowa Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #7 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:46pm Brew wrote on Jul 27^th, 2010 at 10:26pm: Still watching like a hawk, doc. I must say, in reading some of his other posts, I have some strong concerns as well. Unless, of course, medicine in Europe is practiced vastly differently than it is in the US...
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Skyhawk5 CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1320 Ypsilanti, Mi. USA Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #8 - Jul 27^th, 2010 at 11:54pm Sorry to hear this happened to you, must have been awful. One of my biggest fears is getting hit in public let alone on an airliner. They'd have to pry me out of the restroom. The longer acting triptans like Frova, Amerge or Zomig help many with preventing hits while flying. Don
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Reply #9 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 12:22am

It seems that there are some airlines in Europe that will allow you to use your own small oxygen cylinder, with lots of notice, forms, etc. There are details at:

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You may also bring your own oxygen cylinder: Lufthansa allows the passenger the carriage and usage of a small gaseous oxygen cylinder of not more than 2 litres capacity (200 bar) on Lufthansa flights (Not allowed on flights to / from / via USA, Canada and Mexico). The passenger must ensure that the valves are properly secured. The oxygen cylinder must be stowed in a solid case under the front seat during flight, if possible also during usage. The case must not exceed a maximum size of 55x40x20cm and a weight of 8kg. No usage in the aisle or in the lavatory and during turbulence.

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) and that was part of the aircraft, not one owned by a passenger.

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Arde CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 76 Dayton, TX. Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #10 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 12:36am I believe I'll take the train, and hope a plane doesn't fall on it.
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #11 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:09am Ouch Peter....that's gotta rank in the top 10 of most embarrassing public hits ...that sucks. Still have yet to get hit while flying....crossing fingers and knocking on wood. Joe
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Jimi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't feed the moderators Posts: 4925 Madisonville, KY Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #12 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:18am Sorry Feneq. It appears that many airlines overseas allow you to bring 02 on board just not here in the states. I apologize for being wrong about that.
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #13 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:20am Me too. I apologize for being wrong about European airlines. I expect that policy to change once one of their airplanes is hijacked by a jihad extremist.
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feneq CH.com Junior Offline uncommented Posts: 31 germany Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #14 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 12:50pm no problem - we're all here to learn from each other, and i'm really grateful for your inquiries
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Reply #15 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 5:58pm

Brew wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:20am:

I expect that policy to change once one of their airplanes is hijacked by a jihad extremist.

I'd have thought there was more risk from a mechanical failure from the oxygen bottle as they will not be subject to anything like the inspections / testing that will happen to the onboard oxygen bottles.

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Reply #16 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 6:56pm

I was on a flight in the US in the last 5 years maybe that I was asked to change seats because the seat I was in had some special brackets on the floor. The maintenance people got on board and installed a small O2 tank for a passenger that had reserved this service. The tank was "locked" in place. I think it was American airlines as that's what I flew back then.

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Reply #17 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:25pm

I took a hit of Sumatriptan which kinda worked - but whatever the CH did to my sinuses added to the pain - my entire forehead felt liked it was being electrocuted and I kept checking my nose for bleeding...how dramatic.... I feel so sorry for the woman next to me.

When they landed they brought me some O2 but for anyone used to 12 or 15 LPM, it was a laughable amount. I tried to explain that the O2 wouldn't be of use and they just sort of stared at me as if I was being difficult.

I think the advice from a different thread is the right one - bring along your triptan of choice (I happen to hate sumatripan, messes with my cycle, any other suggestions out there?) and have O2 on the other side.

As far as national 02 providers - Apria is my new favorite company. Best customer service ever. They delivered three portable tanks to my hotel with rebreathers and the lot. Great attitude, so helpful. If I ever have another child, I think I already who/what to name him/her after....

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Reply #18 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:57pm

Peter B wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 9:25pm:

As far as national 02 providers - Apria is my new favorite company. Best customer service ever. They delivered three portable tanks to my hotel with rebreathers and the lot. Great attitude, so helpful. If I ever have another child, I think I already who/what to name him/her after....

Hahaha! Excellent!
Why didn't I think of that?! I use Apria and I think their customer service is very good too - when I travel, I always make sure I know where the local Apria office is - they have the o2 prescription on file and would be able to get me o2 wherever I am should I need it.

I'll name my baby boy 'Apria'! Sure! Hmmm - I wonder what my husband will think about that...
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #19 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 10:44pm Apria also provides my O2, as well as maintains my CPAP machine. If it's twins, you could go with Apria and Apnea.
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Skyhawk5 CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1320 Ypsilanti, Mi. USA Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #20 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 3:22pm I use DHE-45 IM injections that for me last over 20hrs. Don
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Reply #21 - Jul 30^th, 2010 at 9:45am

Skyhawk5 wrote on Jul 27^th, 2010 at 11:54pm:

The longer acting triptans like Frova, Amerge or Zomig help many with preventing hits while flying.

Don

I'm going to 2nd taking a long acting triptan while in cycle and flying. Frova prevented me from getting a full blown hit while on the plane, although I did get some strange looks from the people in the airport before I had to board. Thank God the Frova kicked in before the plane took off.

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Reply #22 - Aug 1^st, 2010 at 9:33pm

This fear has hit all of us the first time we flew. (I assume).

I usually take an abortive as the plane takes off even before the headache takes. Sounds strange but I do.

The other option for me is to bring a energy drink (I think 5 hour energy has tourine and caffiene) in my carry on (buy it at airport) and take at first hint.

It is my best defense and so far no in air hits.

I am sorry to hear you got hit in air.

You've overstayed your welcome since the day we met but it doesn't seem to matter to you. No medications are your master, nothing makes you fret, it's a helpless feeling having nothing I can do

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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #23 - Aug 1^st, 2010 at 9:43pm The first thing my wifey does after we clear security screening is runs and gets me 2 sugar free Red Bulls. (she totally digs me!) he he he
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Puck Head CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 3 Portland, MI Gender:	Re: something I learned - DON'T FLY with CH! Reply #24 - Aug 1^st, 2010 at 11:16pm I got hit on a flight to japan, before I was diagnosed(so I had no abortive). Thankfully most of the people on the plane were asleep at the time. Though the flight attendants were kind of concerned by my pacing up and down the aisle holding my head.
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