Hi all, I didn't want to post this on the new members board because I am not personally a sufferer.  I hope someone can help.

My Dad suffers from CH but no abortive treatment methods seem to work at all.  I was wondering if anyone had personally had any success using hallucinogens such as LSD or psylocybin, and, possibly more importantly, if anyone knows of the possibility of exacerbating the problem by attempting to treat it in this way?

I know that it is obviously illegal, but if it works I actually couldn't care less. I've read several reports from numerous sources that claim that hallucinogens can not only relieve the pain of an attack, but that can actually end a cluster cycle too.  My Dad tends to have 2 or 3 cluster cycles a year, with each one lasting over a month, so I think the idea of him having only 3 single attacks a year would be comparative paradise!

Your comments would be greatly appreciated, especially if you have experimented with this form of treatment yourself or personally know someone who has.

Many Thanks all, Joe

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Mark

Hey Joe.  Yes to your questions.  And go to the busters website to get the details, but briefly:

The fungus, seeds etc can break an entire cycle and then protect you from future cycles when taken in correct dosages and at the right times. 

The only negative to them that I have found is that after 2 years of busting I have more shadows throughout the year when not in my cycle.  Before I would have my cycle and the pain, no medication, and then be done for a year or 2.  Now I have shadows every week or 2 or 3 at very low levels.  The attacks try to come back every few months.  More experienced busters say that the longer you do it the less you have to do it.  You can prevent incoming cycles with very low doses.  So low that sometimes you don't really feel any phsycoactive effects.

Between the psilocybes and caffeine my last cycle lasted 3 weeks and only 2 attacks made it through.  The cycle started because I didn't read the warning signs well enough to know it was approaching.  That was 7 months ago, pf since then and I am smarter now.

Also, along with reading these 2 websites, I recommend that you and your dad do some research on Shamanic use of these mushrooms and seeds.  There is interesting reading on traditional uses of these substances in a context of healing.  Here in the U.S. we all think that "shrooms are for trippin", but in parts of the world they have a deeper purpose and a long established partnership with us humans.

Good luck!!

--Shaggy

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Isn't that the truth....

About LSD.
25 years ago I was prescribed Sansert. It's made of LSD. Helped only a little to keep the Kip 9's down to Kip 7's. Don't know if it is even available anymore.

Thanks Brew. I only use Sansert for about a month. I took it before I knew about all the side affects, bad stuff. It didn't work well enough to take the chances of internal damage.

Sancert did Not work for me.  I was bouncing off the walls
for a day or 2 with 1 pill of that stuff.  I'll go with the good
stuff a few times a year. Going to give something a try
after all these meds and their crazy sides.  Once or twice a
year can't have half the effect these things do.  Long and
short term.  Plus the others might just be fun!     Who
knows.  It can't make me as dopey as this Dope-O-Max
does.  Would forget I had CH's if they didn't come on so
dam strong.   

I got these when I first got Ch's way back, told Doc what
they did and he said don't take them anymore.

Boski