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Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:25am
 
More and more I'm understanding the NEED for Democrats AND Republicans...

without the Dems WHAT in the world would the Reps have to TALK about? Wink
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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:24am
 
The wonders of cable television to create content.  I'll guess Donna Reed's been replaced in the popular viewing times. 


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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 10:39am
 
We ought to let Democrats and Republicans yell and scream at each other.

...while we let Libertarians run the government.
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm
 
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm
 
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.
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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:58pm
 
Brew wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm:
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.

After listening to that man for two minutes I was surprised he had the intellectual capacity to breath  Shocked

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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 10:52pm
 
DennisM1045 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:58pm:
Brew wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm:
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.

After listening to that man for two minutes I was surprised he had the intellectual capacity to breath  Shocked

-Dennis-

Yeah, he is sorta whackadooodle ain't he?
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Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 12:35am
 
DennisM1045 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:58pm:
Brew wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm:
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.

After listening to that man for two minutes I was surprised he had the intellectual capacity to breath  Shocked

-Dennis-

At least in my mind, the ones that voted him in rank well below his level.
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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 5:05am
 
Racer1_NC wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 12:35am:
DennisM1045 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:58pm:
Brew wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm:
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.

After listening to that man for two minutes I was surprised he had the intellectual capacity to breath  Shocked

-Dennis-

At least in my mind, the ones that voted him in rank well below his level.

Could it be? The missing rung on the evolutionary ladder has been under our noses the whole time?
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Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:36am
 
Racer1_NC wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 12:35am:
DennisM1045 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:58pm:
Brew wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:38pm:
Charlie wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 8:02pm:
The only thing we have to fear is fear that they will stop being fearful of us.

There are some really brazen ones for whom this is already a reality.

Rod Blagojevich would be one that leaps to mind.

After listening to that man for two minutes I was surprised he had the intellectual capacity to breath  Shocked

-Dennis-

At least in my mind, the ones that voted him in rank well below his level.

Great point Bill!

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Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 11:11am
 
While I certainly am not an advocate for being this socially irresponsible......... Roll Eyes

Since I stopped listening to hate talk radio, hate TV talk shows, stopped reading the paper except for stories about Lakeside and my Padres!!! Grin, stopped reading all of those horrible e-mail forwardings slamming the various political parties......

I am relaxed, my blood pressure is down, my tummy doesn't hurt...and suprise of suprises....the sun continues to rise and set with startling regularity Smiley

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Guiseppi wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 11:11am:
While I certainly am not an advocate for being this socially irresponsible......... Roll Eyes

Since I stopped listening to hate talk radio, hate TV talk shows, stopped reading the paper except for stories about Lakeside and my Padres!!! Grin, stopped reading all of those horrible e-mail forwardings slamming the various political parties......

I am relaxed, my blood pressure is down, my tummy doesn't hurt...and suprise of suprises....the sun continues to rise and set with startling regularity Smiley

Joe's take on politics!

Spoken like a true retiree Joe.  As was previously stated, most politicians aren't afraid of us common voters anymore.  But they still crap their knickers when the blue hairs start raising a fuss  Grin

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Reply #12 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 3:32pm
 
Has anybody seen the latest news about the new insurance plan to cover people with pre-existing conditions (PCIP plan)?

For starters - I have pre-existing conditions.  CH is one, but I also have had knee replacement and will at some point have to have the other knee replaced.  I have been flatly denied coverage under any circumstances, or offered a policy that won't cover anything that happens to my head or my legs - even an auto accident, or offered a policy so highly rated that I cannot afford it.  Consequently, I am now insured for catastrophic care only - required hospital admission (ER does not count).  My catastrophic care still won't cover either my head or legs in case I crashed up in an accident. 

From what I've read so far, the fed govt will handle the insurance plan for some states, and the rest of the states will run their own plans.

In order to qualify, you must have a pre-existing condition - verified in writing by your doctor.  You may not have had any insurance at all for at least six months (a policy that just excludes your pre-existing condition still qualifies as "insurance" so that would make you ineligible).  Plus, you will need a letter in writing from an insurance company who denied you coverage due to your pre-existing condition.

Costs:  On the fed plan, a person under 35 years old could pay as much as $12,000 per year to get this coverage.  I ran the numbers for myself - age 64 in NC (state run plan - not fed).  My monthly premium could be  as much as $729 per month.  Plus at minimum, a $2,500 deductible for everything - there is NO payment at all, including prescriptions, until this deductible is met other than preventative visits - like annual mammogram, annual physical, etc.  Then, I pay 20% of all charges (other than preventative visits) until I reach an out of pocket (not including the $2,500 deductible) of $5,950.  Doing the math, if I applied for this PCIP coverage, I would pay $7,707 annual for my premium + $2,500 annual deductible + $5,950 in co-pay = $17,198 annually until 2014 when Obamacare would kick in.  Then, supposedly it would be what???".  By that time I would be on Medicare, if Medicare is even still there.

I would be better off just doing a pay-as-you-go than even thinking of applying for this crap.

I really feel sorry for the people that bought into the Obama health insurance plan thinking that they were going to finally be covered and it would cost them either nothing or next to nothing.

God I HATE it when I go politically ballistic! My apologies.

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Reply #13 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 3:46pm
 
Yeah, every time someone started trying to convince me the health care reform was a good idea, I just told them:

You are relying on the federal government to take care of you. If that didn't scare the hell out of them, I figured they were too un informed to even bother arguing with them! Grin

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Guiseppi wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 11:11am:
I am relaxed, my blood pressure is down, my tummy doesn't hurt...and suprise of suprises....the sun continues to rise and set with startling regularity Smiley


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Reply #15 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 4:56pm
 
Sounds like an iffy blog Barb. Anyway....

Noting those who went off the deep end to try to kill and dilute the health insurance bill, shows me that eventually, we did the right thing.

Oh, Birthers are still at it......

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan said: "People are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts."

Charlie

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Reply #16 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 5:05am
 
Ya wanna hear something really funny (well maybe NOT so funny). I just got a life insurance policy (or rather my kids did on me).. Well, I had to have a physical... The results.. all the tests were better than what my kids' results would have been (I'm HEALTHY for goodness sakes!) the only thing that spiked at all was nicotine and that wasn't even out of range.

But they had given me a "price" on the insurance. THEN they pulled my medical records and the price went up when they got my neuro records because of the CH. Only $20, but I thought that was funny... Not a damn thing wrong except my head (not fatal and not going to be fatal any time soon). For the last (I don't even know how many years) I've visited my neuro twice a year, taken the same meds (two scripts) and not shown (on the record) ANY problems, but because of the damn CH - I have to pay higher premiums on LIFE insurance.

The only way I can see to get EVEN with these jerks is to DIE and that's a little drastic...  Smiley
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I could not get life ins on my home loan ! when they found out I have CH ! Iam betting they dont even know what CH is! Angry
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Reply #18 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 1:55pm
 
Charlie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 4:56pm:
Oh, Birthers are still at it......

As Daniel Patrick Moynihan said: "People are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts."

Charlie, there's one person and one person alone responsible for the Birther movement: Obama himself.

Obama can end the Birther controversy in one single day by releasing the original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and the love-struck media never ask him why...
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Back to the drawing board............

If even there was an iota of truth to it. Hillary would have clobbered him every day. She wanted it bad.

Good for him that he doesn't fall for it.

The level of intelligence displayed by this group makes it unlikely that anything would have an effect.

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Charlie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 4:36pm:
Back to the drawing board............

If even there was an iota of truth to it. Hillary would have clobbered him every day. She wanted it bad.

Good for him that he doesn't fall for it.

The level of intelligence displayed by this group makes it unlikely that anything would have an effect.

Charlie

Doesn't fall for what?
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There is nothing good that could come from his acknowledging that anything these people say needs attention. If he were dumb enough.......not that he has shown a lot of savvy in political areas recently.......to admit their existence, it would probably sell more bumper stickers to airheads glued to cable "news" and Obama haters. It would be more fodder for insane pundits like Dennis Miller and others. Miller is good at what he has become.

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Reply #22 - Aug 23rd, 2010 at 9:24pm
 
Charlie,

How long are you going to fall for this fraud? Why are these Obama documents off limits to Americans, especially in light of what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in American history?

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
18. Punahou grade school records (Indonesia)

I hope and pray that one day you will learn the truth about this guy - and what he's really trying to do to America.
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Reply #23 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 6:12am
 
Brew wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 9:24pm:
Charlie,

How long are you going to fall for this fraud? Why are these Obama documents off limits to Americans, especially in light of what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in American history?

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
18. Punahou grade school records (Indonesia)

I hope and pray that one day you will learn the truth about this guy - and what he's really trying to do to America.

I'm with Charlie... if there was anything there... Hillary would have found it two years ago.

With everything else that's going on in the world today... I just can't see him worrying about stuff like this. Lordy, I don't know if "I" could find my parents marriage license.

Lordy, back in the 40s and 50s people were yelling just as loud about the Jews, Catholics and Communists (for those of us who were around when Kennedy was running - THE POPE WAS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT IF HE GOT ELECTED - he did and as far as I know the Pope is still in Rome!).

Of course back then we didn't have 24 hour news coverage and blogs and e-mails and all that spewing hatred... we had to do it in the newspapers and word of mouth... But it was the same hate that's being spewed today...

McCarthy was wrong and ruined a lot of lives... what's going on today is as wrong as McCarthy was back in his day. We're supposed to be the UNITED States..
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Reply #24 - Aug 24th, 2010 at 7:39am
 
Note to self: Hillary is now the measuring stick.
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