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MattyAA CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 242 Poland, EU Gender:	Vinegar Aug 28^th, 2010 at 12:35am Hey I wanted to ask because I was curious if Vinegar is one of your triggers or not. Thanks for input
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #1 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 3:12am I've never noticed it, I'm a big Balsamic Vinegar fan and haven't ever found a co relation....given the alcohol and wine triggers many have it wouldn't suprise me. Joe
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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #2 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 9:06am Some years back it was posted that placing a lump of bleu cheese in each armpit and taking a vinegar sponge bath would stop an attack.
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Re: Vinegar
Reply #3 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 10:25am

Alcohol's not a trigger for me, but allergies, non-organic wine and some vinegars are. I'm triggered by the mildest allergic attacks.

I'm allergic to sulfa antibiotics so my guess is that I'm also allergic to the sulfates that are all over non organic grapes. Those sulfates are concentrated in wine and certain vinegars.

I now use distilled white or rice vinegars or I get other varieties that are organic.

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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #4 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 12:12pm Quote: Some years back it was posted that placing a lump of bleu cheese in each armpit and taking a vinegar sponge bath would stop an attack. OMG..I remember that. Den and Georgia were the perps on that one.
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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #5 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 12:20pm Balsamic Vinegar doesn't bother me (Fan of it too!), but I have noticed when ever I have potato salad (one ingredient we use is Rice Wine Vinegar) that I've had CH hits shortly after eating some. Damn good potato salad too.
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MattyAA CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 242 Poland, EU Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #6 - Aug 28^th, 2010 at 4:27pm Bob P wrote on Aug 28^th, 2010 at 9:06am: Some years back it was posted that placing a lump of bleu cheese in each armpit and taking a vinegar sponge bath would stop an attack. lol, I meant I was curious, because I was keen for some cod in vinegar but I don't wanna get hit hardcore
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wimsey1 CH.com Alumnus Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 2457 MA Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #7 - Aug 30^th, 2010 at 7:48am Just curious...wouldn't vinegar have a direct effect on our ph levels? Not sure if it would be for the better or worse, though. Batch? Any thoughts? lance
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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #8 - Aug 30^th, 2010 at 4:12pm It's unlikely to have much of an effect unless you consume large quantities.
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shellcory CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 71 Victoria, Australia Gender:	Re: Vinegar Reply #9 - Aug 31^st, 2010 at 10:16am Hi Guys, We find any types of vinegar's or citric acid's trigger attacks within a couple of minutes, doesn't seem to matter if in cycle or not. The first attack I ever experienced was due to me serving balsalmic vinegarette on a salad, needless to say it hasn't been on my shopping list for over 10 years now. Regards Shell
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Re: Vinegar
Reply #10 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 12:24am

wimsey1 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 7:48am:

Just curious...wouldn't vinegar have a direct effect on our ph levels? Not sure if it would be for the better or worse, though. Batch? Any thoughts? lance

Vinegar is an acid, of course, but it is metabolized to CO2 and easily excreted in the breathe. Most of the acid/alkaline balance literature focuses on acids that must be excreted by the kidneys (nitric, sulfuric, and phosphoric, which are primarily from amino acids, and from phosphates in animal proteins). The problems arise when these acids are not balanced by potassium, magnesium and calcium, and/or when the diet is low in buffers like citrate and bicarbonate.

Vinegar is a type of short chain fatty acid that has anti-inflammatory effects quite apart from the pH. This class of compounds includes acetate (acetic acid/vinegar), butyric acid, and propionic acid. There is interest in using these for crohn's disease, raising HDL, preventing cancer (especially colon) and other conditions. Fermentable fiber is one of the best ways to get these SCFAs, although a bit of oil and vinegar on your greens is another good way if it doesn't trigger a bad reaction.

No idea if regular, moderate doses of vinegar has any effect on clusters (good or bad).

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