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Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Oct 7^th, 2010 at 4:16pm

How many smokers do we have here? And how many quit and think of quitting due to CH?

Just wondering as the first info I read tried to link smoking in with CH though I don't think directly. Plus the first sign of illness and everyone ALWAYS tells me it is time to quit, whatever it is. I could lose a toe to frostbite and I guarantee someone will blame my smoking!

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #1 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 4:42pm

I smoke 2 packs a WEEK and it has has never triggered a CH, in fact the first thing I do is grab a couple smokes and chain smoke them at the start of each attack..I said this before,my doctor says the smoking restricks the blood vessels, just what we want durning an attack. I probable wouldn't smoke at all if it wasn't for CH. Cheesy

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #2 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 5:25pm

Never smoked never will! Wink

One of the doctors who spoke at the last covention made a great point. If you are going to continue smoking, the majority of the treatments we currently use will be unavailable to those with lung and heart issues. He encourages all his CH'ers to stop smoking, not because it'll "cure" their CH, but just to be able to avail themselves of the latest and greatest treatments.

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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #3 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 5:58pm I quit 30 years ago, 11 years after contracting CH in 1969. CH wasn't my reason for it and I never expected it to have an effect. I quit because males in my family never made it to 60. It is a lot easier not to smoke today. Charlie
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #4 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 6:54pm I haven't had a cigarette now for one year, 10 months, 17 days and 10.5 hours and it hasn't made a blind bit of difference to my CH. Mind you, I've more money now for beer.
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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #5 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 7:53pm

AussieBrian wrote on Oct 7^th, 2010 at 6:54pm:

I haven't had a cigarette now for one year, 10 months, 17 days and 10.5 hours and it hasn't made a blind bit of difference to my CH.

Mind you, I've more money now for beer.

Damn Brian, you can't tell us how many minutes?

Good on ya for quitting. I've been quit now for 5 years 7 months and will never go back. Didn't spend it on beer, but got a real nice camera!

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barry_sword CH.com Alumnus Offline Mountain Biking Keeps Me Sane Posts: 3947 Bracebridge, Canada Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #6 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 9:21pm I am smoke free 5 years & 1 month and still get CH's Made no difference with me... Brian, cheers, I can afford more beer now too!
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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #7 - Oct 7^th, 2010 at 11:09pm

Clusters for 20 years, quit smoking 7(?) years ago (with setbacks inbetween, but they didn't last very long), CH still continued. Last cycle I had, I started up smoking after my first attack and after realizing the smoking was causing my cycle to be extended (it was the longest I hever had of 44 days), I quit again and about 5 days later it ended.

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #8 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 12:25am

a pack per day.Tried to cut it several times and managed to do it only for a month in legth maximum.
I find it pretty hard even to reduce it.
no change in ch those times i stopped smoking.

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One of the doctors who spoke at the last covention made a great point. If you are going to continue smoking, the majority of the treatments we currently use will be unavailable to those with lung and heart issues. He encourages all his CH'ers to stop smoking, not because it'll "cure" their CH, but just to be able to avail themselves of the latest and greatest treatments.

any medical info to back this up?
what are these latest treatments?names?
he means isoptin?
has any of the former ch smokers here seen any diference in the treatments after?

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #11 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 9:25am

black wrote on Oct 8^th, 2010 at 12:25am:

a pack per day.Tried to cut it several times and managed to do it only for a month in legth maximum.
I find it pretty hard even to reduce it.
no change in ch those times i stopped smoking.

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One of the doctors who spoke at the last covention made a great point. If you are going to continue smoking, the majority of the treatments we currently use will be unavailable to those with lung and heart issues. He encourages all his CH'ers to stop smoking, not because it'll "cure" their CH, but just to be able to avail themselves of the latest and greatest treatments.

any medical info to back this up?
what are these latest treatments?names?
he means isoptin?
has any of the former ch smokers here seen any diference in the treatments after?

The doctor at the convention was speaking about triptans. He didn't provide any studies, just said these medications would not be available to those suffering some of the long term effects of smoking.

Joe

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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #12 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 2:59pm Bob P wrote on Oct 8^th, 2010 at 8:56am: Cluster headaches cause smoking. Not for me and I have no intention of ever doing. However around the times I normally get CHs, smelling either cigarette smoke or nicotine gum is enough to trigger a CH for me.
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Charlie CH.com Alumnus Offline Happy to be here Posts: 18971 Jamestown, NY Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #13 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 6:41pm Quit smoking in '80, Ch quit for now in '91. Beats me if I see a connection. Charlie
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jon019 CH.com Alumnus Offline "Ya gotta believe!" Posts: 1656 USA Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #14 - Oct 8^th, 2010 at 8:57pm ...been both...no difference... I too love beer....send ALL my EXTRA to Brian...he's still waiting ...I do love to stare longingly at the cans...even in cycle.........
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Lenny CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 642 Los Angeles,CA Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #15 - Oct 10^th, 2010 at 10:37pm I too tried it both ways...No difference at all...One difference i have noticed is,how wonderful it is to light one up as you feel the beast starting to leave your head (especially the eye).....Lenny
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Langa CH.com Alumnus Offline So many donuts, such little time... Posts: 4754 x0\|\|USA\|usa\|0\|0\|NJ,New_Jersey Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #16 - Oct 11^th, 2010 at 2:05am I used to smoke. Haven't in 14 years. Had ch's while I smoked and now as a non-smoker. No correlation for me either way. In cycle, however, put me in a room full of smokers and I get hit immediately...no rhyme or reason to this thing. Langa
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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #18 - Oct 11^th, 2010 at 9:03am

My Dad has quit smoking (Woohoo) since he used to go through at least 2 packs a day. His cig smoke used to drive me insane, I couldn't even go in the same room as he was in when he was smoking it bothered me so much. He quit cold turkey, tough guy.

I used to be a pack a day smoker or more. I have now cut back my smoking and have been able to have a pack last me as long as 3-4 days. For now I am stuck at the 3-4 day marker. Sometimes cig smoke will trigger CH sometimes it doesn't. Am chronic CH and I've figured out that during the Extra high time of CH attacks cig smoke will bother me, during low or normal CH times it doesn't. Roll Eyes

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #19 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 4:15pm

Bob P wrote on Oct 8^th, 2010 at 8:56am:

Cluster headaches cause smoking.

hahahahaha!!!

Funny thing is that i had quit for over a yr and once I peaked in a cycle I started again.
what better ways to spend the nights than walking the streets with a cup of jo and chain smoking.

I've been trying off an on for yrs now...it's a struggle.

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #21 - Oct 12^th, 2010 at 7:50pm

I started smoking in my late teens - CH started in my late teens. (now 41) Quit smoking during pregnancy and the first two years of my sons life - no CH during pregnancy but then started up once I stopped breast feeding. Then back to regular cycles. Quit again last year for just over 10 months - staked on the weight Shocked

had my regular cycles.... started smoking again...regular cycles... quit again... regular cycles.. smoking again (lost weight Tongue

) CH has not changed at all - smoking and in cycle now Cry

smoke about one small pack of rolling tobacco a week

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Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers
Reply #22 - Oct 14^th, 2010 at 8:22am

Joe, my doc said the same thing: quit smoking or some treatments would not be available to me. I've been a half-pack a day smoker since 19 (a while ago) and I did quit for two years but it didn't stick. There are an inordinate number of CHs who smoke, vs the regular population, and some speculation that the same mechanisms involved in a hit also make quitting anything harder. lance

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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Smokers Vs Non-smokers Reply #23 - Oct 14^th, 2010 at 9:20am Yeah Lance, some of our more research oriented posters have talked about that in depth. That the mechanism that controls CH has a relationship with addictive personalities. I'm still hopeful they're going to discover the solution to this is so simple we'll smack our foreheads over not seeing it for so long! Joe
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