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Nov 13th, 2010 at 8:46pm
 
My husband has CH that range from 15-45 mins long each episode. This last time being more intense than any other. He had them last year, but we thought he had a tooth infection, or that it was TMJ flaring up. Needless to say, after having a tooth removed...that wasn't the problem.
I was just wondering, what do you (anyone) do for this? We can't go to the hospital, we have no insurance. In the ER they gave him a dose of something compared to percocet or vicodin I believe...which did nothing but make him drowsy....and wrote him a prescription for Naprosyn (Naproxen) 500mg, then sent us on our way. Are they only treating him for migraines?
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Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:27pm
 
It's really risky doing self diagnosis, I mention that because there are so many different headache types, and sudden onset head pain is occasionally a symptom of something more sinister. Masking the pain runs the risk of allowing a problem to become huge before it's addressed. Head pain generally requires a headache specialist neuro for any chance at an accurate diagnosis and effective treatment regimen.

But that does nothing to help a person without insurance. Some of the methods used to alleviate the pain:

Energy drinks, rock star, Red Bull, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine. Chugged down at the first sign of an attack, they will reduce or even abort an attack.

Consider adding the following supplement while on cycle: Calcium Citrate with Vitamin D, Zinc and Magnesium, up to 4X a day, washed down with lemonade. This alters the arterial PH making you less succeptible to attacks.

Avoid alcohol as this is a very common trigger for most CH'ers.

Continue reading the boards, there are many other routes people use to reduce their pain. Check out    clusterbusters.com             alternative treatments that are showing incredible success. And figure out a way to get to a specialist, thanks for doing the footwork for your sufferer, we're damned fond of our supporters around here. Smiley

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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:34pm
 
Yes, it does seem they are only treating him for migraines. 

Has he been diagnosed with CH ? 

Do you have any free clinics around where you live?

Do you have any county health programs that he would qualify for? 

Your hubby needs a proper diagnosis since many other things can mimic CH.  Please try to get him in to see a headache specialist asap.   If he does have CH there are things a Doctor and he can do to help himself.
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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 1:54am
 
Check with your social services at the hospital to see if you qualify for Public Aid or Medicaid.   Not the best care, and you will have to do your own homework to get what you need, but then you need to do so anyway.  Welding oxygen is probably your best bet AFTER a firm diagnosis.

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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 7:19am
 
Where you live means a lot in terms of finding affordable/free medical care. At this point, we can only offer broad possibilities:

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

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This is a suggestion to check with your hospital for low cost clinics, call you local United Way office, health department, etc. for leads.

Joe is correct: self-diagnosis is misleading, even a danger. There is little you can use which does not cost and/or require a Rx. However, you might try 8-12mg Melatonin. It's inexpensive, OTC at the drugstore. But stay away from pain meds. They can, with regular use, increase the problem and, as you have experienced, offer little benefit.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]




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Re: Not a migraine
Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 9:08am
 
If he is being woken up by attacks, look into melatonin. It's an over the counter medication available at health food and vitamin stores. Start with 9 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime. It will prevent the wake up attacks for many.

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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 9:51am
 
Hello,

Give this a serious thought, with no insurance it could be the silver bullet you may be searching for.

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boy i cant wait till it's my turn to give him a headache. paybacks a bitch
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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 11:26am
 
Very good advice here. But try to find a way to see a headache specialist
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IT'S JUST A HEADACHE,TAKE TWO ASPRIN AND GO TO BED!!!
 
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