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My headaches and my job don't mix
Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:02pm
 
I think I'm on the brink of losing my job I think but no one wants to even give me theirs thoughts. Three yrs ago it startedwith my headaches, I was approved for FMLA for that, for the first time ever I had back to back episodes. I was constantly leaving work and of course the rumor mill kicked in that I was full of it and just wanted time off so I'd blame my head. That in turn triggered severe anxiety (I am also dx'd bipolar/ADHD/manic depressive) which caused more time off. Without the headaches I would be in the office and someone would make a comment, my personal favorite, 'I wish I had the luxury of going home whenever I wanted' and that would trigger the panic and out the door I'd go. The more I was gone the more I worried and had more anxiety. Now three yrs later, my supervisor, that by the grace of god I was lucky to work for, is now gone. That happened when I was out on STD. The company was basically forced to allow me to work from home as it's considered a privilege and there are certain requirements. Now that I'm back to working though it's one thing after another, what I'm doing wrong, what they THINK I'm doing wrong, why am I doin something the way I am, and on and on it goes. I have exhausted my FMLA until March 2011, and to top it off my clusters are back full force. I am over the allowed amount of unplanned time off and was written up less than a week after returning to a new supervisor who is close with my manager who was scrutinizing my every move even before I went on STD. (BTW, I have never been written up at any previous employer ever) I'm at my wits end. I contacted my HR department who told me to talk to my sup. That didnt change the fact when I called her crying from the pain, to gets her feelings on if I were to ake a couple hours, would I be fired, that I heard the distinct telltale 'beep' of the monitoring device on the other end. I don't know what to do at this point I'm in such an ungodly amount of pain and up against leaders that wanted to see me go months and months ago, with no support. and it all started with the headaches which I now have back to haunt me... What do you do when you can't cry any more and your head hurts so bad that you can't see options...
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Re: My headaches and my job don't mix
Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:11pm
 
When were you diagnosed with cluster headaches and what has been your treatment for CH during this time to help you manage better?
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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:19pm
 
I recognize and understand your problems.  At this point all I can say is continue doing your job to the best of your ability.  You cannot control what others think or do, you are only responsible for your own actions.  I'm not being unsympathetic, but you gave very little for us to base any constructive advice on.

You didn't say what meds you are currently using, have tried, has worked, has not worked, etc.  Are you on O2?  At 25 lpm I can kill a hit within 5-8 mins.  If you were to do that you would be back on the job in less time than a coffee break.  I know, you say easier said than done.  However, there are quite a few of us here who do just that.  Some of us have been chronic for years and years and have still maintained jobs.  Some of us have had to change jobs.  Some of us are underemployed, but for the most part we have learned to live with the beast and live between the hits without letting it control our lives, which (I'm not being critical) it sounds from your post you are. 

Please give us a bit more to work with.  I assure you, you have found a family that will do all it can to help you back on your feet, but you have to carry your part of the load.  Venting is allowed, even welcomed.  Whining is not.  You are not whining, but having a defeated attitude leads to whining, so pick your chin up.  You aren't whipped yet!  We'll do all we can to help.

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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:24pm
 
I was diagnosed probably ten to fifteen yrs ago, mine are episodic, not chronic thankfully. I've tried just about every medication I've seen listed and the one that works he best for me is the imitrex but even that starts to not work after the first couple of weeks, almost like an immunity develops.
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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:33pm
 
I sorry your right I didn't think to add the rx's I've tried and I apologize if I sound like poor me, your absolutely right,
there are much worse cases than mine and my heart Ora out to all of you who have to push through it everyday. I have tried the O2 treatments when I was in the ER on all 3 separate occasions but it didn't seem to help, but I'm willing to revisit it. I have tried a laundry list of rx's there were a couple I didn't recognize that I will bring to my provider, I've done biofeedback,acupuncture,massage and chiropractic tx. Does that help a little?
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Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:52pm
 
Imitrex not working can be an unusual circumstance, but the scripts you take for anxiety may have interactions or serotonin related. 

Concentrating on the best use of oxygen as an abortive would seem to have less interactive possibilities.  It is very effective when used properly, a link is highlighted in yellow on a tab to the left.

Preventive meds such as verapamil can alleviate many hits on a steady basis.  I don't know how well this was pursued previously, but it's sometimes only effective at higher doses getting above 480mgs a day and up to 920 or so, and can have some side effects to monitor.



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I've done biofeedback,acupuncture,massage and chiropractic tx. Does that help a little?


These are a treatment mix having very little dependability for CH.
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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 12:57am
 
I second what Kevin said, with one caveat.  The oxygen info on the left talks about 15 lpm.  I found it did not work well for me either, and I quit using it for about 4 yrs.  A little over a year ago I was talked into trying it again at 25 lpm, and I can now kill a hit withing 5*8 mins in most cases.  Some go even higher than that.  I suggest you search the site for posts on oxygen use by Batch.  He has dome some very good studies on oxygen use, and is our resident expert.  If you don't find what you need find one of his posts and PM him.  He is very good about explaining proper usage.

Please don't think I was being critical!  We all get down at times and NEED to vent!  You were not whining.  Had you been I would have addressed you much differently!  It is just very easy to slip over the edge of a pity party and wallow in our pain.  Life is to short for that, and I just wanted to be sure you don't go that route.  We are here to help, encourage, support and whatever else you need to get back on your feet.  We'll do all you will let us do.

Another prevent you might look into if you have trouble with Verap is Kudzu.  It is an herbal that is over the counter and relatively inexpensive.  I've used it for years after having probs with Verap and Lithium in combo.  I get the same or better results without the side effects.  Search the site for posts on Kudzu, or if you don't find them PM me and I'll be happy to make suggestions.

Jerry

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Reply #7 - Dec 26th, 2010 at 12:37am
 
Micskatana wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:24pm:
. I've tried just about every medication I've seen listed and the one that works he best for me is the imitrex but even that starts to not work after the first couple of weeks, almost like an immunity develops.


have you tried clusterbusting?


one thing thats a hard trigger for me is driving and im a truck driver. i can work outside the truck for hours and be fine. 15 or 20 minutes after i get behind the wheel i would get hit. over and over and over again.
back then i worked for a small company and i explained to my dispatcher what was going on and gave her the address to this website. she checked into it and said she had no idea thats what i was going through. she told me not to worry about it and they would do what they could to work around it.

now that i work for a huge mega fleet company that that micro manages the piss out of ya i dont know how they would react to CH. i can't imagine them being very sympathetic. Sad
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Reply #8 - Dec 26th, 2010 at 2:58am
 
Micskatana wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 11:24pm:
..... the one that works he best for me is the imitrex but even that starts to not work after the first couple of weeks, almost like an immunity develops.


Just checking - is that the injectible form of imitrex? (There's a real consensus amongst CH'ers 'round here that it's the most effective form for CH, with the pill form generally regarded as not effective).
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Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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Reply #9 - Jan 15th, 2011 at 6:04pm
 
This also sounds way too familiar. Sounds like how I fizzled out, I did the same thing to myself,thinking that nobody believes me I'm just making it up or something,then you blame it on yourself,I feel ya, very frustrating.

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Reply #10 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 5:26am
 
Pain doesn't mix with any job but it's something we have to do.

I'm more concerned with your coping mechanisms and support system or lack there of.

You deal with a major mood disorder and adhd on top of clusters...There are meds that treat bi-polar that are used off label for CH and the same goes for adhd....

Where are you from?
depending where you live there are some amazing headache specialists who may be able to treat both for you and guide you in dealing with the "panic"

Good luck
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Reply #11 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 1:31pm
 
I suffer from major depression and paranoid schizophrenia.  I take high doses of effexor and abilify.  I tried to do the clusterbusters method of shrooms.  Since I can not quit taking my meds I used the shrooms while taking effexor and abilify.  It gave me 5 months pain free time and I had no phycological effects from it.  I got lucky.  I then tried a second and third and fourth dose and got no positive results so gave up that method.  I am the only one that I am aware of that stayed on meds and didn't detox off all meds first and tried that method.  Be also aware that melatonin and kudzu are to be used with caution on our mental health meds as well.  I was to scared to mix and match that and realized how stupid I was to mix and match with shrooms but I was desperate.  If work becomes to unbearable for you depression, anxiety, bipolar, paranoid schizophrenia, adhd are all qualifying conditions for disability on ssdi and ssi.  You may want to consider that route.  I couldn't work because I was getting 8 ch a day every day while at work and home.  That was 16 hours a day in pain.  I just couldn't think, I was easily aggitated, etc.  I was suicidal and the anxiety killed me. Then I got phycotic.  Made working impossible.  I hate not working and even went back to school to refresh my skills but I couldn't cope with school well and I had problems passing job interviews because I am so overly medicated.  I only make 1/4 what I was making a month on ssdi.  So be warned that it doesn't pay much to support a family on and it is very hard to reenter into the job force should you decide to return to work.   
    I found it very common for my ch to adapt to meds and quit working.  I took lithium for a couple of years and then it quit working.  I took oxygen for a couple of years and then that quit working even at high flow rates.  I took indomethacin a that worked for 5 months and quit.  I took shrooms and it worked for 5 months and quit.  See the pattern.?  Imitrix has always worked for me but it wouldn't surprise me if it quit working one day.  If you have any further questions that I could answer for you just pm me.  Hope I helped some.  Karla
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