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Jan 8th, 2011 at 9:45pm
 
Arizona shootings, per CNN.

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Federal judge dead, congresswoman among 12 wounded in shooting

By the CNN Wire Staff
January 8, 2011 9:42 p.m. EST

(CNN) -- A federal judge was killed and a congresswoman gravely wounded Saturday in a shooting outside of a Tucson, Arizona, grocery store, according to police and government officials.

In all, six people died and 12 were wounded in the shooting, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, according to Rick Kastigar, bureau chief for the Pima County Sheriff's Department.

Chief Judge John Roll of the U.S. District Court for Arizona was among the dead.

Gabe Zimmerman, the director of community outreach in the congresswoman's Tuscon office, died in the attack, Giffords' press secretary C.J. Karamargin said, as did a 9-year-old girl, according to authorities.

The girl is one of four victims whose identity has not yet been released.

An Arizona law enforcement source and a federal law enforcement source identified the suspect as Jared Lee Loughner. Other law enforcement sources put his age at 22. U.S. Capitol Police said the suspect was in custody.

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Law enforcement sources identified Jared Lee Loughner, pictured here in 2005, as the suspect.

Police recovered a 9mm Glock Model 19 handgun, according to senior law enforcement sources. The weapon had a 30-round magazine, a federal law enforcement source briefed on the investigation said.

An Arizona law enforcement source told CNN that Loughner is not talking to investigators and has invoked his right against self-incrimination.

Dr. Peter Rhee of University Medical Center in Tucson, said Giffords, 40, had undergone surgery for a single gunshot to the head that passed through her brain. Giffords was among five patients listed in critical condition, Rhee said.

At least two victims with gunshot wounds were transported to another hospital, Northwest Medical Center, according to spokesman Richard Parker.

Kastigar declined to comment on a possible motive for the attack. Police have set a news conference to discuss developments in the case for 6 p.m. (8 p.m. ET).

The attack occurred after 10 a.m. (noon ET) outside a Safeway grocery store where Giffords was holding a previously scheduled constituent meeting.

Giffords staffer Mark Kimble told CNN affiliate KGUN that the congresswoman did not have any security with her Saturday morning, which was not unusual for her.

"She wants to be as accessible to the people who elected her as possible," Kimble said.

Karamargin said he was not aware of any call for Giffords to heighten her security measures because of recent threats.

Tucson police Chief Roberto Villasenor said his department had secured the homes and offices of some unnamed federal officials as a "precautionary measure."

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Man linked to Arizona shooting called 'very disturbed'

Posted: Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:03 pm

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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 5:28pm
 
Damnit. I don't like liberal democrats, I'm opposed to most of their policies.....but how the hell do you go from that, to taking their lives.  Cry     I just do not understand.

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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 5:46pm
 
As Democrats go, Gabrielle Giffords is pretty moderate. She is a big supporter of 2nd Amendment Rights, and I believe she is also pro life.
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 5:53pm
 
It's not about policies or politics - it's about a deranged individual.
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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 7:44pm
 
Marc wrote on Jan 9th, 2011 at 5:53pm:
It's not about policies or politics - it's about a deranged individual.

Exactly!
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:54pm
 
And they won't be able to lock him up because he is certifiably nuts.  He'll get a few years in a psych ward and then be declared cured . . .   To bad in a state like AZ there wasn't someone there that was carrying.
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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 1:25pm
 
But on the other hand - they're trying to get Tim McVey's lawyer to defend him -- maybe he'll get the "flu" shot and we'll be rid of him... (a federal judge might be the loophole to convict him).

But the 9 year old is the one that breaks my heart more than the others. Born on 9-11 and now this... My heart goes out to her parents Big Time.

Things like this just make me sick...
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 5:51pm
 
Bill Clinton said it pretty well, I think that it's good to remember that vitriolic ranting falls on the hinged and the unhinged at the same time.

This guy was pretty far around the bend. Today it looks like he put some of his agenda on paper for that matter.

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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 7:03pm
 
OMG, I saw a pic the news put up of him this evening and he looks certifiably psychotic! Shocked

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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 7:34pm
 
if not creepy Mel.


It would seem that there is enough evidence by others to get him off on the insanity charge.


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To bad in a state like AZ there wasn't someone there that was carrying.


My son who is a cop in Los Angeles says..."shot while trying to escape"   Wink  Too bad it wasn't wasn't done in a timely manner by Tucsan PD.    Not that it will bring back those who were killed but revenge is best served cold and just might be a comfort to the families.  This way I doubt very highly they will EVER get any satisifsaction.

  They will mourn,  while our justice system protects HIS rights... for years I would imagine.

         
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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 8:48pm
 
Whether this was motivated by political viewpoints or just some psycho fixated on this congresswoman one thing is for certain...political polarization is at an all-time high.

It's rootin' tootin' shootin' yosemite Sarah's crosshairs on this woman's district (do I not like her?  you betcha!), or Nancy Pelosi's stand on immigration protection (of the illegal variety), national spending, and many other issues I disagree with...whether your right or left, blue or red, republican or democrat, politics today, and all the mudslinging ads of the past election, is not what our forefathers had in mind.




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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:00pm
 
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Not really. There are many instances of people being more at loggerheads than what they are currently. In this country's history there was the American Revolution, slavery, the Civil War, The Suffragette Movement, Prohibition, Vietnam, Nixon, Carter, Reagan. And that's just the last 300 years. Societies were MUCH more polarized in previous civilizations than they are now.
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:10pm
 
You make a good point...maybe it just seems that way to me because my first memory doesn't start until the mid-sixties and politics didn't enter my world until the mid-90's....and that I have to work around this bull$hit everyday. 

Point well taken though.
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:13pm
 
Callico wrote on Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:54pm:
And they won't be able to lock him up because he is certifiably nuts.  He'll get a few years in a psych ward and then be declared cured . . .   To bad in a state like AZ there wasn't someone there that was carrying.

There was. He left his gun holstered and tackled freakazoid while he was reloading.

Legal concealed carry isn't about the OK Corral, It's about being safe. He had his hand on his gun but didn't draw because he saw a better opportunity.
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Reply #14 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 12:46am
 
Thanks, Grinner.  I hadn't heard that.  It would have saved the rest of us a lot of grief if he had just taken the perp our, but then he would have had to live with himself.  He made the right call.

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"sigh"...my point exactly..the finger pointing, rhetoric, political bipartisanship...doesn't matter if you're republican or democrat the mud flies both ways.  Unfortunately it doesn't look like it will end anytime soon.  Worth repeating:  I don't think this is what our forefathers had in mind.

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Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 11:52am
 
So, you're saying that I shouldn't point out that I think it's extremely counterproductive and really bad form for a President of the United States to use such rhetoric - words that can incite violence?

I don't think our founding fathers would have a problem with me doing so. I also don't think they had our current occupant's tactics in mind when they envisioned leadership. Of course, it's just my opinion.

Maybe you think I should just keep my opinion to myself...
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Reply #18 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 12:13pm
 
You do what you want Brew, my last post was not disagreeing with you.  I was merely pointing out that the mud flies both ways.  BOTH sides are guilty of this.  I'm pointing out that no matter what side of the political aisle you or anyone else chooses to sit on, anyone who engages in this type of behavior IS counterproductive (whether it's the President, any political figure, the news media, your average Joe, or some psycho).  The intent of my original post was as a citizen I'm fed up with the in-fighting, mudslinging, and lack of progress to get this country back on it's feet over what appears to be nothing more than a freakin power struggle!!  Again BOTH sides are guilty of this.  That was my intent, nothing more nothing less.    And nowhere did I say you or anyone should else to keep your opinion to yourself...as for myself...I'm out  Lips Sealed
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Reply #19 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 12:22pm
 
You don't need to reply because I can see that it makes you uncomfortable, but I actually believe that it would be anti-American for me NOT to point out what I believe to be a terrible wrong.

If you want to call that mud-slinging, I guess you're entitled. I happen to think that allowing the kind of gross dereliction of duty to which we've been subject to go unchallenged would also be a terrible wrong.

I do not and cannot subscribe to the Rodney King school of Diplomacy - "Can't We All Just Get Along?" I can't. Not when my country is being blindly led down a path to socialism.

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Reply #20 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 12:30pm
 
Per current news reports, the beloved so called Reverend Phelps and his band of Westboro Baptist Church members are planning on protesting at all of the funerals in Tucson, including that of the beautiful 9 year old girl.

What absolute disgusting filth these people are!

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Reply #22 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 3:21pm
 
I just read that the lawmakers in AZ are trying to do something to prevent the Kansas church group that protests at military funerals from comming and protesting there.  I guess they intend to do so.  That is what breaks my heart.  What did the 9 year old girl do and her family to desearve protesting.  Sick.  Just plain sick.
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Reply #23 - Jan 11th, 2011 at 7:04pm
 
The only reason those hatemongers from Kansas (I won't call them Baptists or Christians because they are neither, no matter what they call themselves) are going to AZ is because that is where the publicity is.  They use the publicity to fuel the fire that they try to stir up.  They also use it trying to get someone to do or say something they can take to court and try to  extort money either through the court or from a settlement.  They are nothing but the white equivalent of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.  Shakedown artists.

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I couldn't agree with you more Jerry.

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