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Need Help! Is this a Cluster Headache?
Jan 16th, 2011 at 7:11pm
 
Hey yall…

Well, this is my first post and I need help!  Read the below and let me know if this really does sound like a cluster headache, as I am not sure I am at the right place.  I sure am lining up with most of the ‘classic cluster headache’ symptoms, but not 100%.  If I AM fitting a cluster headache, please help with advice for what to do!   This is fairly long, so thanks up front for reading it and helping!

So, that said, some history:

I am 49 years old, male.  Stay in really good shape, eat mostly a cave-man diet.  I drink wine most nights, about two glasses.

I had never had a headache in my life until 2 years ago on New Year’s eve.  I was playing a computer game (I tend to play a computer game about 1 hour per night after work) and my eyes were tired/strained, then wham.  The attack was centered on my right eye, only on one side of head.  In waves, felt like someone pushing on my eye.  Nausau, light sensitivity.  Lied down for 3 hours and it went away.  I got another one in a day or so, same thing, then another in another few days.  In between, I felt different, I call it ‘being on the edge of an attack’, like I could trigger another attack if I strain my eyes too much. 

The attacks were definitely eye strain related, specifically looking at a computer screen or reading, and I work as a computer designer, so this was a huge deal. The pain seemed to originally come from the base of the right side of my neck and then somehow get associated with my eye, and would move all over on my right side during an attack, from my neck to my eye.  My eye was literally sore during an attack.  My neck had always been stiff since football as a kid and I assumed that the headaches were originally caused by neck pain (due to my spine/neck being ‘out of alignment) which in turn caused my muscles to spasm in the right base of my neck, which in turn triggered the headache, and that somehow it downstream affected my right eye.

I would often have to go lie down during a work day for 3 hours while another attack passed, which was not good for my job!  This went on for weeks, with the ‘feeling on the edge of an attack’ in between attacks, which came every day or other day. 

I finally went to a neurologist to check for a brain tumor and a chiropractor to fix the neck stiffness and the muscle spasm feeling at the right base of my neck.  I found out I had no issues with brain tumors or aneurysms with a CAT scan.   

I also got a book about migraines and it suggested 1) don’t take the ‘rebound causing pain meds that the neurologist gives you’ and 2) get rid of dietary triggers (caffeine, chocolate, alcohol, citrus fruit, aspartame, nitrates, etc).  I went to the chiropractor and changed my diet for about 2 months, and suddenly no more headaches, yeah!!!

Then, this time the day after New Year’s (2 years later almost to the day), I had a day where I put a lot of strain on my eyes (drove a long ways), then when I got home I stayed up late and played a computer game, and drank just a little whiskey since I was out of wine (I never drink whiskey), and boom, the exact kind of headache as two years before.  Then, I got another one playing a computer game 2 nights later.  Both seemed to be related, just as two years earlier, to eye strain, but also the ‘epicenter’ of the pain seemed to be the right base of my neck in a kind of muscle spasm, then the pain goes back and forth between my right eye and right base of my neck.

These attacks last between 2-4 hours and usually occur at the very end of the night after a day of eye strain looking at computers (my job and my hobby both).  I then lie in bed for up to four hours unable to sleep and praying to God for help to know what to do.  The pain is BAD for the whole time with waves of pain going in and out and moving around between my neck and eye on my right side.

As of today, they have been going on for almost two weeks, with about 8 attacks in 14 days, usually late at night.  And that feeling of ‘being on the edge of an attack if I push it with doing things that are eye strain related’ is back in between the attacks.

AND last but not least, I now am realizing, while I feel like I need to lie down and rest my eyes in order to prevent an attack coming on, that the actual lying down is CAUSING the attack to get WORSE, as the pressure of lying my head down on something (even a pillow) triggers a full-blown attack.  So, I can’t even lie down even though I need to rest my eyes!  I have learned instead to sort of lie down in my easy chair sitting more straight up so that I don’t put any pressure on my head.  I am also learning to get LOTS of regular sleep. 

I have gone back to not eating any of the dietary triggers again, no more alcohol, etc.  I have also this time started going to a rolfer to help with 1) the twisting of my spine and being ‘out of alignment’ and the muscle spasm in my neck (which is supposedly caused by my spine being out of alignment and which then makes the muscle spasm, which is supposedly the ‘trigger’ of the headaches).

I am SCARED of having this issue forever going forward!  Since eye strain seems to be a triggering factor, it has taken away all my enjoyments (computer games, TV, reading) AND its directly affecting my job (which is to look at a computer screen all day).  I also can’t work out since hard running like I like to do is another trigger. 

AND I have no idea what exactly is the cause or the solution, I am just guessing.  If I had a broken leg, I would go to a doctor, get a cast, etc, rest for 5 weeks, then all better.  With this, I am stumbling in the dark as to what to do and everyone I go to (family, friends, chiropractor, rolfer, etc) all tell me different things.  My sister today suggested that I am displaying classic symptoms of a cluster headache, and wow, I am.  But, some questions as to whether it’s a cluster headache:

1)      Why do attacks last up to 4 hours if it’s a cluster headache?  The sites say they normally only last for no more than 2 hours.
2)      Why does it seem like tight spasming muscles in the base of my neck (right side) seem to be a focal point of the trigger.  The attacks seem to come from 1) eye strain and 2) my neck muscle spasming at the right base of my neck.  They seem to be related.  Doesn’t that point to it being a more structural thing like my spine being out of alignment causing my neck muscle to spasm, which in turn somehow causes the headache and somehow transfers to my right eye?

If it does sound like cluster headaches, where do I best go for exactly what to do?

I bought some melatonin today and will take 10mg starting tonight.  Thinking about taking Noni (I am into natural foods and diet).  Thinking about doing a ‘juice feast’ where I eat nothing but fresh juices for weeks or months as a detox program.  I know I need to drink lots of water.  I have heard about taking magnesium but don’t know how much or what kind.  The rolfer (and the chiropractor two years ago) says that I am ‘out of alignment and my spine is twisted some’, so going there could only be a good thing headaches or not, right, especially since it seems so related to neck tightness/spasm.  I also know I need to get plenty of regular sleep.

Is this a cluster headache, and if so, what to do?  My job and whole enjoyment of my life seems to be on the line!

Thanks so much for reading this far, you are truly wonderful for doing so!

Randy
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Re: Need Help! Is this a Cluster Headache?
Reply #1 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 9:35am
 
Hi and welcome,
from what you have described it doesn´t sound like CH (i´m no Dr) first of all the frequency of attacks, CH last from days, weeks and months of 2-8 attacks per day. then the ability to lie down during an attack is not physically possible (at least not in my case). It doesn´t matter if i lie down or stand up that doesn´t effect the pain level. My CH starts behind my right eye and can reach my shoulder but the pain in my eye doesn´t move its always there during an attack. As far as i know eye strain is not a cause of CH or even related to it. All in All from what you described its not CH but as i said before im not a Dr and your best cause of action is to see a good Nuero who specialises in headaches.

try taking the test (cluster quiz) on the left wich gives a good indication of CH and see your Dr as soon as possible

I hope this helps you and i wish you PF days

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Re: Need Help! Is this a Cluster Headache?
Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2011 at 10:48pm
 
I agree...it doesn't sound like CH to me eithor.

One little tip, though, for the eyestrain, as you said that could be a triggering factor...

While this won't really help with gaming, it will help when surfing the web...

Use the Firefox browser when surfing the web, coupled with Firefox add-ons, Stylish and Adblock Plus.

With Stylish, you can change the way websites look (I myself get eyestrain with white-sheet backgrounds).  If you know CSS code, you can re-style websites yourself.  If not, there are loads of styles you can choose from - again all free - that others have written.

Also, with adblock plus, you won't get brightly coloured flashy banner ads - again much easier on the eye.

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Re: Need Help! Is this a Cluster Headache?
Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 9:35am
 
Two issues:
1. There are dozens of headache disorders with overlapping symptoms and some other serious disorders which mimic Cluster.

2. Most docs, including general neurologists, have inadequate training and/or experience in dealing with complex headache problems. Soi, if you have the option, best approach is to find a specialist.

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.

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Exploring the buttons, left, starting with OUCH, will give you some usefu background information--but not a substitute for a good doc.

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Cluster headache.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]



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Re: Need Help! Is this a Cluster Headache?
Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 10:29am
 
What they said! Cheesy

I've been told the average med student gets a grand total of 4 hours training on headaches....4 hours total, covering ALL headache types! As Bob mentioned, there is the really really small chance it's something more sinister going on, you'd certainly want to eliminate that possibility with the diagnostic scans etc., available through a specialist. Would be bad mojo to just treat the pain while something grew!

Once you eliminate that, you can get a firm diagnosis, whether it be CH, SUNCT, Occular Migrain, or any combo of those and others, there are many treatments available. just need to get over that diagnostic hurdle. Wishing you speed and luck in that endeavor!

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