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Reply #125 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 4:37pm
 
Hello there, My name is Mike.  I am currently a 30 year old male living on the South Side of Pittsburgh having moved here from Cleveland Ohio.  I have been getting "migraines" for about 15 years and have not been to a doctor about them since around 12 years ago.  At that time I believed migraine meds like excedrine were actually giving me relief so the doctor told me to just continue self medicating untill it stopped working.

In the past week I have had two head aches, one on monday at about 4am (usually bedtime is around 6-6:30am)  and one on tuesday at 9am which woke be after getting to bed around 7.  I never really thought much about them, just assumed that they were migranes.  I assumed everyone attempts to shove a hair brush through the back of their head or try and dig their left eyeball out when they get headaches.  This was the first time however that my girlfriend has actually seen me go through my routine or being really scary as she said during a headache, so i decided to look them up.  Upon finding this site and others I have come to the realazation that I have clusters, man am i relieved to know its not a tumor LOL.

The biggest thing im excited about is i will probably stop eating as many excedrine migraines and instead do some research here to look for some better remedies.  One big issue is that i have no insurance and will have none for the forseeable future as we opened a Bar and need business to pick up first before any new expesnes.  So im looking for remedies or aids that are easy on the pocket book (actually excited about the freezer idea! if one can be.)

Anyways thanks for having me...

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Reply #126 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 5:36pm
 
Welcome to the board. A quick caution about self diagnosis! It's risky. There are other conditions which can mimic CH but are a bit more sinsister. We're always fearful of teaching people to mask their pain only to allow something that should be treated to reach an advanced non treatable state.  UndecidedYour first choice is always a complete work up by a qualified headache specialist neuro....that's best case scenario. With a lack of insurance, ouch, that bites. That being said, the "at home" cures for the pain of a CH attack:

Energy drinks. Red Bull, MOnster, any containing the combo of caffiene and taurine. Chugged down at the first sign of an attack many can abort or really reduce an attack.

Read this link on oxygen. Set yourself up with a big welding oxygen tank, a regulator and a mask, an abort will run you less then a buck a hit. I abort my attacks using just oxygen in 6-8 minutes

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For the night time wake up hits, try Melatonin. An over the counter sleep aid, available at any pharmacy or health food store. Start with 9 mg about 30 minutes before bedtime. You'll have to play with the dosing, some go as high as 18 mg to stop the wake up attacks.

Go to the medications section of this board and read the post "123 pain free days and I think I know why" A simple vitamin/anti inflammatory regimen, cost you pennies a day, and it's providing a lot of relief to CH'ers.

Finally visit our sister board:

Clusterbusters.com

Here we explore non traditional methods of dealing with CH, some legal some not so much, all providing some pretty impressive success stories.

Glad you found us, hope we can help you.

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Reply #127 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 9:52am
 
Hi all ...... I've not been on here for a while ...... well I've been in this latest bout for the past 29 months  Angry
The good news is I'm being admitted to hospital on the 19th of this month for Infusions ...... fingers crossed they have some effect !!!! I will update you to how things have gone ...... hopefully it will be good news.
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Reply #128 - Mar 18th, 2012 at 10:47am
 
Sounds like a crappy run Eric   Cry  Hoping the infusions help. If you haven't checked it out, go to the medications section of this board and read the post "123 pain free days and I think I know why"

It's a simple daily suppllement program, Vit. D-3, magnesium, calcium, zinc and fish oil. It's providing a lot of relief for members who are trying it. Cheap, healthy even without CH, certainly worth looking into. Hoping you can tame the beast soon.

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Reply #129 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 4:39pm
 
Hi,my name is George, l am from west sussex, England,I am new to the web and it's great to find this site and people who understand how bad ch's are! Just wanted to say hello to everyone for now and Will say a bit more about myself tomorrow regarding diagnosis and treatmen,thank you  for taking the time to read this and I look forward to getting to know some of you,bye for now
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Reply #130 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 5:52pm
 
Welcome to the board George, you've stumbled on the mother lode of CH info. Also, visit this site

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It has a lot of information that is specific to your side of the pond. Glad you've found us.

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Reply #131 - Apr 1st, 2012 at 8:45am
 
Hi my name is Antonio and i come from Slovenia,but i work and live in Germany(bavaria).Im 30years old and i started to get CH 2011 February,i was diagnosed in december 2011(in germany) with chronical CH by my house doctor and then confirmed by my neurologist.I have from 2-4 attacks everyday with up to 6days per month pain free.My abortive meds are :
Sumatriptan 100mg
Zomig nasal 5mg which is very good for me
Pure O2 8l/min portable set when i have stronger attacks
I have also experimented with "magic mooshrums" psilocybin and was also very good for me,got 2-4 pain free days after a low dose,but i dont use them often because they are hard to get and ilegal in my country.I have also made positive experiance with taurine and coffein,ice packs or very cold water.Also i have tried Marihuana which makes me handle the pain easier, but its not good for daily use because of my job and social life.I have also stop drinking alcohol and smoking cigaretes.
As abortive meds i use Verapamil 80mg(since 2 weeks) at a dose 240mg per day,but havent noticed any good affects till this day,i still get the same amount of attacks every day.Maybe its not working for me or maybe i have to give it some more time to work?
I realy like your site and all the info that it has to offer,keep up the good work  Smiley
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Reply #132 - Apr 1st, 2012 at 9:01am
 
angioi wrote on Apr 1st, 2012 at 8:45am:
Hi my name is Antonio and i come from Slovenia,but i work and live in Germany(bavaria).Im 30years old and i started to get CH 2011 February,i was diagnosed in december 2011(in germany) with chronical CH by my house doctor and then confirmed by my neurologist.I have from 2-4 attacks everyday with up to 6days per month pain free.My abortive meds are :
Sumatriptan 100mg
Zomig nasal 5mg which is very good for me
Pure O2 8l/min portable set when i have stronger attacks
I have also experimented with "magic mooshrums" psilocybin and was also very good for me,got 2-4 pain free days after a low dose,but i dont use them often because they are hard to get and ilegal in my country.I have also made positive experiance with taurine and coffein,ice packs or very cold water.Also i have tried Marihuana which makes me handle the pain easier, but its not good for daily use because of my job and social life.I have also stop drinking alcohol and smoking cigaretes.
As abortive meds i use Verapamil 80mg(since 2 weeks) at a dose 240mg per day,but havent noticed any good affects till this day,i still get the same amount of attacks every day.Maybe its not working for me or maybe i have to give it some more time to work?
I realy like your site and all the info that it has to offer,keep up the good work  Smiley

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Reply #133 - Apr 1st, 2012 at 9:54pm
 
Read this link on how to correctly use the 02. Your flow rate is way low, we start at 15 LPM and go as high as 45 LPM. Worth a read to get more benefit from your oxygen:

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Then visit our sister site,

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This is a very effective treatment regimen but it rewuires you follow a strict regimen to make it work.

Glad you found us, hope we can help you.

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Reply #134 - Apr 15th, 2012 at 3:10am
 
I live in texas. I am a 40 yr old woman, mother of 2, stay at hm mom. I got my first attack one night the first week of february this year. Since then, i have been pain free for about two full days. There have been pain free hours and moments in between, but only two full days.

Cluster hit at night on the right side of my head. Sinus filled up. Rt eye teared. I took two aleve and a rx allergy pill. Major cluster pain for about 30 mins. Then pain went down to migrain level and i was able to sleep. I really thought i was going to die. My husband was really scared too.

I wasnt sure what was wrong with me. I was sure it was something expensive and refused to go to the e.r. due to the high cost of our co-pay. Three days later i gave in and went to see my family doctor. He diagnosed me right off with cluster headaches. He gave me some samples of maxalt and sent me on my way. The pills worked wonders. But 6 pills didnt last very long.

I called back asking for more and a preventative. He gave me a rx for topiramate and sumatriptan tablets. Maxalt was way too expensive, even with insurance.

The topiramate is kicking my butt. I am so tired all the time. I am on my third day taking them. I waited because i thought i might be pregnant. (Baby plans have been put off for a while now.) The pills make my hands feel tingly. The small "electrical shock"type headaches have stopped but the clusters have increased. They were only on the right side of my head but now have decided to invade the left. Today and night, i have had clusters on both sides of my head.
Pills have caused confusion, word loss, coke taste bad, numbers dont make sense.

I go back to the dr on the 19th. Hopefully he will be able to make the pain go away.
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Reply #135 - Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:17am
 
Welcome to the board! I was just in Texas last week doing a bicycle tour through the flower fields of your "Hill Country" outside Fredericksburg, WOW!

Are you working with a headache specialist neuro yet? We have seen the best results from doing so. There are hundreds of headache types, some which mimic CH, and it’s important to eliminate those before arriving at a firm diagnosis. I’ve had CH for 33 years, they haven’t killed me yet! You need an organized approach to managing them so they don’t manage your life. I use a 3 pronged approach, many use a similar approach:

1: A good prevent med. A med I take daily, while on cycle, to reduce the number and intensity of my attacks. I use lithium, it blocks 60-70% of my attack. Verapamil is the most common first line prevent, topomax also has a loyal following. Some have to combine lithium and verapamil together to get relief. The Topirate is what he's using now, I'd suggest printing out the following and take it to your doc as this med has less of the mental side effects that seem to be hammering you with the topirate:

The first report, on using Verap., is a protocol which has gained wide acceptance.

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Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   

Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.

    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.

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Okay, enough on the prevents for now.....


2: A transitional med. Most prevents will take up to 2 weeks to become effective. I go on a prednisone taper, from 80 mg to zero over a two week period to give me a break while my prevent builds up. Prednisone will provide up to 100% relief for many CH’ers but is harsh on the system and should only be used for short periods of time.

3: An abortive therapy, the attack starts, now what? Oxygen should be your first line abortive. Breathing pure 02 will abort an attack for me in less then 10 minutes, that’s completely pain free. Read this link as it must be used correctly or it will not work

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Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.

Go to the medications section of this board and read the post "123 pain free days and i think I know why." It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff, that’s providing a lot of relief for people who have tried it, it’s a long read, worth the time.

For now, get some energy drinks. Rock Star, Monster, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chug it down as fast as you can when you feel an attack starting. Many can abort or at least really reduce an attack using these.

Finally, visit our sister board for “alternative” treatment methods outside of mainstream medicine. As you’ll see from all the success stories on this board, there is something to it.

clusterbusters.com


Read everything you can on this board, if you are a CH’er, knowledge is your best ally. We’ll help you all we can.

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Reply #136 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:40am
 
Thanks for the info. 

I had to laugh at the part about the energy drinks.  Today my 8 yr old daughter made me a cup of coffee.  I'm not much of a coffee drinker but she loves the stuff.  After drinking it, my head felt much clearer. I think I'll be drinking more of the stuff from now on.

Today I decided to cut back on the Topomax from 2 pills a day to 1 at bedtime.  I had a pretty bad headache all day long today but no clusters.  Nothing like yesterday.  2 Advil did a pretty good job of taking away most of the pain and just left me with discomfort.  It's been almost 40 minutes after taking the Topomax and my head is already not feeling too great.  I don't think this is the drug for me.  I can't wait to go see the doctor in a few days.  I will talk to him about the new drug you suggested, and about seeing a specialist.

Thanks for all the advice.
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Reply #137 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 7:08pm
 
Hi Guys

I'm a brand new clusterhead and a brand new member to this website. I've just turned 32 (such a nice birthday present), married with 3 beautiful daughters, who thankfully look like their mother. I live in the North of England, in a pretty little town by the name of Barnsley.
I'm afraid I don't appear to be as strong as the rest of you during the 'dance', as I tend to go to another place without realising. The pain can sometimes become that unbearable that I either blackout or end up convulsing. My neurologist is steadily increasing the amount of topomax I am on, currently 50mg on a morning and 75mg on a night, with a view to being on 100 and 100.
Currently experiencing approximately 3 attacks a day, which is driving me insane. The pain is unexplainable to anyone who does not suffer with it, I haven't been overly enthused with my neurologist as she recommended some website to me which turned out to be a waste of time. I came across this one by chance and after reading some of the comments I felt like people on here would actually understand. Hence my registration, I'm hoping to find some friends who'll understand my situation because at the moment I kind of feel like a fish out of water!
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Reply #138 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 8:34pm
 
Hi and Welcome, just sorry you needed to come here.

From the description of the pain of a CH it really sounds like you've got nothing to abort a CH, which is as essential as being on a good preventive (like the topomax you're on).

Do insist on getting oxygen. Breathing pure oxygen through a non-rebreather mask at 25lpm lets me kill off my CHs in about 5 minutes or so, which is a whole lot less pain than the 45-75 minutes I used to endure (not sure how now). There is a load on info about oxygen on the left.

Also look at getting imigran injections, which can also kill off CHs in a few minutes, but you're limited to only using them a couple of times a day.

Also since you're in England, do also look at your UK group, OUCH UK - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register. They offer forums and a helpline to make the most of getting good treatment on the NHS.

And yes, people on here really do understand CH with everyone either getting it themselves or supporting someone with it.

Keep reading and reading plus ask all the questions you can think of. You'll soon learn more than most doctors about CH.
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Reply #139 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:56pm
 
Welcome to the board, I'm with Mike. Get oxygen! Kills my attacks in about 6-8 minutes. Here's  a link with the basic info on how to use it, along with info you can print out to give your doc the info to give you a try on it:

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Do take a tour of the ouch uk site, a lot of area specific info for you to help you navigate your med system there. Glad you found us, hang in there.

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Reply #140 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 7:31am
 
Thanks for the quick responses. Bit concerned about having an oxygen cylinder in the house with three young children (the eldest is 6). Can they come in different shapes/sizes or tamper proof from playful children lol.
Neurologist hasn't spoken of these imigran injections, how does this work?
Is topomax the best preventative medication to be on, or is it just a case of what suits the individual? I just don't feel entirely comfortable being on such a high dosage of them and have already started with some side effects, such as weight loss (not always a bad thing I know, but I wasn't overweight to start with), pins and needles, hangover type headaches in between attacks and a dry mouth.
I've had a look at the Ouch Website too, thanks for poitning me in that direction, some helpful topics on there too.
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Reply #141 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:33am
 
Oxygen tanks come in multiple sizes, they are relatively safe if kept in their racks so they can't be knocked over. By the time my girls were in their teens they could rig a regulator on an E-Tank for daddy, gave them a feeling of having some control over the beast!

Topomax is not the first line prevent, Verapamil is the most common, you can print this out for your doc, he should appreciate it's origin:

If you haven't see this protocol, it's widely used:

Headache. 2004 Nov;44(10):1013-8.   

Individualizing treatment with verapamil for cluster headache patients.

Blau JN, Engel HO.


    Background.-Verapamil is currently the best available prophylactic drug for patients experiencing cluster headaches (CHs). Published papers usually state 240 to 480 mg taken in three divided doses give good results, ranging from 50% to 80%; others mention higher doses-720, even 1200 mg per day. In clinical practice we found we needed to adapt dosage to individual's time of attacks, in particular giving higher doses before going to bed to suppress severe nocturnal episodes. A few only required 120 mg daily. We therefore evolved a scheme for steady and progressive drug increase until satisfactory control had been achieved. Objective.-To find the minimum dose of verapamil required to prevent episodic and chronic cluster headaches by supervising each individual and adjusting the dosage accordingly. Methods.-Consecutive patients with episodic or chronic CH (satisfying International Headache Society (IHS) criteria) were started on verapamil 40 mg in the morning, 80 mg early afternoon, and 80 mg before going to bed. Patients kept a diary of all attacks, recording times of onset, duration, and severity. They were advised, verbally and in writing, to add 40 mg verapamil on alternate days, depending on their attack timing: with nocturnal episodes the first increase was the evening dose and next the afternoon one; when attacks occurred on or soon after waking, we advised setting an alarm clock 2 hours before the usual waking time and then taking the medication. Patients were followed-up at weekly intervals until attacks were controlled. They were also reviewed when a cluster period had ended, and advised to continue on the same dose for a further 2 weeks before starting systematic reduction. Chronic cluster patients were reviewed as often as necessary. Results.-Seventy consecutive patients, 52 with episodic CH during cluster periods and 18 with chronic CH, were all treated with verapamil as above. Complete relief from headaches was obtained in 49 (94%) of 52 with episodic, and 10 (55%) of 18 with chronic CH; the majority needed 200 to 480 mg, but 9 in the episodic, and 3 in the chronic group, needed 520 to 960 mg for control. Ten, 2 in the episodic and 8 in the chronic group, with incomplete relief, required additional therapy-lithium, sumatriptan, or sodium valproate. One patient withdrew because verapamil made her too tired, another developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and the drug was withdrawn. Conclusions.-Providing the dosage for each individual is adequate, preventing CH with verapamil is highly effective, taken three (occasionally with higher doses, four) times a day. In the majority (94%) with episodic CH steady dose increase under supervision, totally suppressed attacks. However in the chronic variety only 55% were completely relieved, 69% men, but only 20% women. In both groups, for those with partial attack suppression, additional prophylactic drugs or acute treatment was necessary. (Headache 2004;44:1013-1018).

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SLOW-RELEASE VERAPAMIL

Dr. Sheftell applauded the protocol for verapamil used by Dr. Goadsby and colleagues, which entailed use of short-acting verapamil in increments of 80 mg. “This method was suggested by Lee Kudrow, MD, 20 years ago as an alternative to slow-release verapamil,” Dr. Sheftell noted.

“I would agree with using short-acting verapamil, rather than the sustained-release formulation, in cluster headache,” he said. “I prefer the short-acting formulation with regard to ability to titrate more accurately and safely. My clinical experience anecdotally demonstrates improved responses when patients are switched from sustained-release verapamil to short-acting verapamil.”

Dr. Goadsby agreed that his clinical experience was similar. “There are no well-controlled, placebo-controlled, dose-ranging studies to direct treatment. This is one of those areas where clinicians who treat cluster headache have to combine what modicum of evidence is available with their own clinical experience,” Dr. Sheftell commented.


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Reply #142 - May 16th, 2012 at 5:18am
 
Okay, okay, okay.... where to start??? I just found this site. Heck 12 hours ago i thought I had Migraines. I didnt know CHs existed. I didnt know anyone else on planet earth experienced what I go through. Now I know better. Because:

1.My headaches are suicidally painfull (although I tend to regret these thoughts when I feel better)

2. 40%-50% of the pain is behind my left eyeball

3.No family history of migraines

4. I look exactly like those disturbing YouTube vids of ppl with CH during an attck

5. These headaches have taken over my life

6. I get "shadows" which ruin my mood/demeanor and are like a constant horrifying threat

7.Headaches always on the left side (except maybe 1 or 2 episodes several years back)

8.Left eye tears up and eyelid droops down

9. I can probably find 10 more reasons of the top of my head. Tired of typing this part of my post. SERIOUSLY I'm a textbook case.

I'm 26. Been getting them about once a year since the age of 16. My cycles are 2 weeks long. Approx 4 CH/day. I'm in a cycle now and I'm sort of scared because usually I can "feel" that the cycle is almost over at this point (10 days in). It doesnt feel like that this time. Also a first: it has been 2.5 years since my last episode.

The only meds I've ever tried are worth squat. Advil, tylenol, tylenol with codeine, aspirin, naproxen, diclofenac potassium (voltaren), chamomille tea (lol),  etc... I've even tried tripling the "safe" dose. Doesn't make a dent on my headache. Like candy.

Yes. I'm a Soldier. I've toughed every headache for the past 10 years without any effective meds or treatment. Nobody except you guys will ever understand the significance of this.

MY QUESTION: Anyone know the fastest way for me to get a proper diagnosis in the Canadian Healthcare system? Preferably in Quebec? More preferably in Montreal? I want some Imitrex! I want some O2! I dont wanna go to sleep or face my next CH!!! HELP!!

for tonight I'm gonna try a freezing cold shower in case of an attack!! (in case right? lol) I read that on this site. I also read working out during an attack. Dont think Ill try that one. Really working out?? It'll make all the blood rush to your head. That cant be good. During an attack my pain spikes with every breath. I hold my breath sometimes dreading the moment when I'll have to breathe.

Anyways.... I have to sleep at some point right? I think Im ready to fight the beast one more time.

Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight I'll ever know
Live and die on this day
Live and die on this day
----From movie "The Grey"
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Reply #143 - May 22nd, 2012 at 1:50pm
 
My name is Dan.  I was diagnosed with cluster headaches about 3 weeks ago.  It started back in April on a Wednesday night.  I was awakened around 1am to the most pain that I had every experienced in my life.  To put it in perspective, I have had migraines, muscle tension headaches, sinus headaches, etc, and I knew this was exponentially worse.  My wife took me to the ER where they did CT scans and originally diagnosed me with a stroke.  Needless to say, this freaked both me and my wife out.  A week later and still suffering with the same pain, I was right back in the ER where they did an MRI and the neurologist ruled out a stroke, and told me that it was actually a cluster headache. 

What infuriated me the most about this doctor, even though he told me what I suffering from, was his total lack of empathy.  I asked him what I can do to at least lessen the pain, and he said "people get headaches, so there is not much we can do."  I promptly got another neurologist who took the time to explain what I was going though.  He prescribed verapamil, prednisone, and imitrex.  I am also taking melatonin to help me sleep at night.

I my case I have also been tracking the frequency and intensity of the headaches with a spreadsheet and this is where I found that the prednisone was having more of an impact on controlling the headaches than anything else.  Once I tapered off of the prednisone, I ended up back in the ER because the pain increased to the point that I couldn't believe.  Much worse than anything I can even describe.

I am grateful to find a resource like this and hope to contribute as much as a receive.
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Reply #144 - May 24th, 2012 at 3:30am
 
Hi Dan, I'm just a newb here but I'd like to offer some advice anyways, at least until some of the more experienced members get to you.

First do A LOT of resesarch. Doctors are busy and they wont care as much as you (that would change if we could just give them a 10 minute taste of our headaches). Plus many of them are uninformed about CH (even neurologists). The people here are pretty much heaven sent. ask ask ask!! oh and you'll get alot more "hits" if you start your own thread.

Second: OXYGEN!! I'd rather avoid serious meds if I can abort attacks with something I breathe already. It works for most but it is necessary to have a high flowrate (15L/min or more) and a NON rebreather mask. Your meds do sound like "the basics" though.

Third, get your vitamin D3 levels checked. Apparently, most of us get these torture sessions simply because we're vitamin D3 deficient. I'm not a doctor but I'm good at math and probability. The math says: CHECK!!!!  Batch will tell you all about it.

Also, I found that Axert (almotriptan malate) which is very similar to Imitrex (sumotriptan) will actually mess with the cycle and give relief but only to make the beast come back (and he'll be pissed!!). And it made my cycle longer. Buuuut everyone is different.

A lot more tricks: Chugging energy drinks, sticking your head in freezing cold water, working out (that one's not for me), shrooms etc.....

Avoid: heat, cigarettes, weed, skipping meals, Alcohol of any kind (not even 1 drink)

Ya CH is bad, but its better than a stroke....

Good luck
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Reply #145 - May 31st, 2012 at 5:09pm
 
Hi Saladin27,

Thanks for the reply. Its funny you mention the vitamin D3. I was just tested and was told that I was completely deficient.  Apparently working in an office for over 10 years is hazardous to my health.  I am also starting the oxygen tomorrow, so hopefully that will make begin to make a difference. I am looking forward to a day without a headache. Its been so long since I can remember what a headache-free day felt like.

Thanks again for feedback and support.
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Reply #146 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 10:50am
 
Hi Everyone,

I was diagnosed with CH in April of 2011 although have been getting them since I was 26, and am now going on 33.  I live about 40 miles from State College Pennsylvania. My family physician thought I was getting migraines, until I explained to him how my eye swells, droops, and waters.  And not to mention the excrutiating pain on just the left side.  I am also a text book case.  The only difference with me is that mine did not get significantly worse until after the birth of my 3rd child.  Another interesting fact is I did not get one headache during the 2nd and 3rd trimester of my pregnancy, which was May through October. One week after my son was born, the headaches came back and they were worse than ever.  My neurologist prescribed me Oxygen, which normally took them away within 15-20 minutes, but was not always affective.  I was not taking any medication due to the fact I was nursing.  Without hardly any relief, I went back to my doc and he prescribed me Prednisone, which worked great!  The only time I do not get headaches is when I'm on a steroid treatment.  But once the treatment is over, in about a week I start  getting the headaches again.  Now I am on 240 milligrams of Verapamil a day, broken up into 3 doses.  I have been taking this for about  3 weeks, and up until last week, my headaches are not any better.  I am hoping that within the next few weeks I will hopefully have some relief.  I have great support from my husband and family.  They are all very helpful and understanding.  I carry my oxygen tank with me wherever I go in fear of an attack when I am out.  I hate having to lug it around but I don't want to be house bound either.  I have also tried intranasal lidocaine, which did very little, and I tried Imitrex once but gave me a burning sensation in my neck.
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Reply #147 - Jun 4th, 2012 at 6:18pm
 
Welcome to the board! Suggest you read this link just to make sure you're getting the maximum benefit from your 02:


Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

Many find by tweaking HOW they use 02, they can increase its effectiveness and speed up the aborts. Are you using a high flow rate and a Non re breather mask?

Next, go to the medications section of this board and read the post "123 pain free days and i think I know why." It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff, that’s providing a lot of relief for people who have tried it, it’s a long read, worth the time.

Welcome to the board, so glad you found us!

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Reply #148 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:04pm
 
I'm from Sweden, 27 and female.

I've been diagnosed by a senior doctor in neurology with cluster headache, basilar migraine and tension headache.
I get attacks that last anything from 15 min to normally 5-6h but have been in hospital for attacks that lasted 20-24h where I've lost movement on one side of the body, lost speech and consciousness. These stranger symptoms are explained by the basilar migraine which is an unusual and pretty nasty form of migraine.

I've tried Zomig, Imigran, different types of morphines (before they figured out what was wrong with me), am currently on bamyl and verapamile... and at this point a few days away from getting my own oxygen equipment.

It took 9 years to get a diagnosis and as I've had a lot of sceptic and negative reactions to my pain level I've avoided seeking medical help till it became absolutely impossible to not do so.
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Reply #149 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 10:34am
 
I found this sight last night after dancing with the devil 3 times over the weekend. I am a 55 year old man who started getting these hellashish clusters in Nov 2010. THANK GOD my doctor recognized the symptoms and correctly diagnosed me when I saw him. (I had 2 headaches before I could get in for an appointment) I truly felt I was beginging the decent towards death - didn't know why or what - but thought that pain like this could only be leading towards the end of time for me.
He started me with one pill of MAXALT - MLT 10 MG OD tablets.
These are about $50.00 a pill with no insurance, $30.00 with - the catch is - the insurance only approves 6 every 2 weeks... I've used 6 in 2 days.
I battled these for 4 months, then suddenly, they dissappeared.came back in Nov. 2011 - but only for 2 months, and now, here is June2012 and the Devil has returned.
Knowing that all of you understand the intense amount of pain and knowing that I'm not the only one having it helps. After reading the message board for hours last night, I decided to write my Doctor a well deserved THANK YOU Letter for nailing my diagnosis on the first visit.
The MAXALT will begin to bring the pain down in about 10 minutes, and I can function again in about 20 - Oxygen helps my recovery too. I swear it feels like a year or two of life gets sucked out of me with each episode.
My heart goes out to each and everyone one and your families. Thanks for the web site.
Kevin   ckev11@yahoo.com
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