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Steroids and Phylactiocs
Jan 21^st, 2011 at 9:21am

Hi Old timers,

I saw the Nuero yesterday. He reckons that Im getting pretty near the end of my current cycle (ticker tapes, champagne, balloons etc). What he has done is write to my local gp and say that if there is another cycle he would want me to try Steroids and Phylatics rather than imitrex / sumatritan.

Anyone come across this before?

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George CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Black-Billed Magpie Posts: 8126 Boise, Idaho USA Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #1 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 9:55am Steroids, like prednisone, I understand. A prednisone taper is often used in the short term as a transitional medication to halt attacks until a longer-term preventive, such as verapamil, has time to begin working. I don't know what phylatics are. Best, George
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Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs
Reply #2 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 10:48am

Could he have said prophylactics, (sp?) as in preventative treatments? I use lithium as my prevent, but it takes 10-14 days to reach a therapeudic level. So I do a 14 day prednisone taper, to get me thru the first few weeks. For a lucky small percentage of CH'ers, a prednisone taper will halt an entire cycle.

I'm all for dumping the trex as I'm convinced, as are several other members of this board, that trex extends cycles. No scientific studies to back that, just personel experience. I would push for the steroid taper, with a preventative such as verapamil, and then get him to prescribe the oxygen for your abortives. It's sure reduced the beasts power over my life!

Joe....who is not a doctor....but often tries to talk his wife into letting him play one! Grin

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crosspescara CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 34	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #3 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 4:15pm defo said prophylactics excuse my spelling. The Neuro also said its time to bin the Sumatriptan so gone cold turkey today. Result, level 3 all day. Certain its the effects working their way out my system
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #4 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 4:54pm Bin?
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Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs
Reply #5 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 4:59pm

I'll occasionally pop an excederin migrain for those nasty shadows. I stress the occasionally as repeated use just causes rebounds.

4way nasal spray, that's the brand name, also helps me with shadows. A good snort up the nostril of the affected side. Have you tried strong coffee, or better yet an energy drink with caffiene and tauring, like monster or red bull? They help me with attacks and with shadows.

Joe

(Bin...sounds European for dump????) Roll Eyes

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #6 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:06pm I don't assume anything anymore.
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #7 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:06pm Tauring?
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #8 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:10pm DAMNIT!!!! taurine......I try so hard to proof read my posts!!!!
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Jeannie CH.com Sponsor Offline Live, Laugh, Love.... Posts: 2333 St Louis, Missouri Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #9 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:10pm Brew wrote on Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:06pm: Tauring? LOL!!!!
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #10 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:13pm Guiseppi wrote on Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:10pm: DAMNIT!!!! taurine......I try so hard to proof read my posts!!!! I guess you get an "A" for effort, then.
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #11 - Jan 21^st, 2011 at 5:35pm For you Jeannie!!! Thank you Brew! Joe....hukt awn fonix werkt fer mee.
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crosspescara CH.com Junior Offline Posts: 34	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #13 - Jan 24^th, 2011 at 5:56am Hi Brew, Bin - short for Dustbin, according to google translate English to American = Trashcan or Trash. Two countries separated by a common language!
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #14 - Jan 24^th, 2011 at 9:34am Two countries separated by a common language! Now that thar is funny stuff!!! Joe
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Ant CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 44 Utah Gender:	Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2011 at 9:00am I agree Caffeine is definitely good for Shadows. But how about a full blown CH, does pounding an energy drink or something full of caffeine have any effect on it?
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Re: Steroids and Phylactiocs
Reply #16 - Jan 25^th, 2011 at 10:14am

Those who have success aborting/reducing attacks with energy drinks seem to get the best result from slamming them down at the first sign of an attack. Once an attack gets established, I have trouble beating them back, even with oxygen. If an attack gets above a 6 or 7, imitrex injectable is about the only thing that'l l provide relief. The trick seems to be catching it before it starts to ramp up the kip scale.

Joe

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