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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #100 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 6:55am

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Have you tested it yet or not? ....

Well let me look again at the beginning steps of your hybrid system.

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Although we are not "Working THAT MUCH on the cause", it is however a hybrid system, because it is the body itself that decides and defines the how to process. It is a process like this
a. I received a command to compress the energy expanded on my head
b. Is it good for me? Yes. lets follow the command.

Since you are the one talking about expanded energy in the head, it would be you sending this command. Apparently in this system of out of mental orbit, you are a commander.

In "b" you are asking yourself if your own command is a good command. Of course you answer "yes", most commanders would. Also, you as commander suggest following this command, why else, because you say it is good.

And we know what you think of people who do not follow your commands, they must be deaf and blind, usually drug users.

I see.

Here is an appropriate audience for you that is a lot more mature than this commanding thing.

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Go to step 2

I'm not going anywhere unless there's balloons and clowns. And I want a pony ride.

Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest...

WHY IT'S MEEEEEEEE!!!

Mr. Science, can you make a tissue dance? You just put a little boogie in it.

hehehehe WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The cow jumped over the moon Mr. Science, and without rubber bands.

Do you have magic beans?

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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #101 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:11am

Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 6:55am:

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Although we are not "Working THAT MUCH on the cause", it is however a hybrid system, because it is the body itself that decides and defines the how to process. It is a process like this
a. I received a command to compress the energy expanded on my head
b. Is it good for me? Yes. lets follow the command.

Since you are the one talking about expanded energy in the head, it would be you sending this command. Apparently in this system of out of mental orbit, you are a commander.

Dear Kevin,
Since you are always fighting you do not understand simple sentences.
"I" and "Me" is not me, is your body, my dear.

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Ghiassi Ex Member	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #102 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:17am From WHO.int Acupuncture: Review and Analysis of Reports on Controlled Clinical Trials Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or Although they are mostly jokes as I mentioned.
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #103 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:18am

Well then, your kidneys talk to you.

But in this world, it is only you in this thread who spoke of expanded energy in the head.

See appropriate audience above.

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Not Scientific.

I understand these repetitive fragmented sentences. It's the sound made not getting anywhere, an aperture is puckered up, nobody's blown any sunshine up it.

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Ghiassi Ex Member	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #104 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:31am Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:18am: Well then, your kidneys talk to you. See appropriate audience above. Kevin, I want to help and I do my best to do that. No matter how many prejudgments are coming, They are all unscientific and I will repeat the same quote. Best wishes.
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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #105 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:36am Yet you maintain this circus by being the most unscientific in the thread. You can learn from the audience given above.
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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #106 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:54am Quote: Go to step 2 I believe these have been your command sentences, Commander Science.
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #107 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 8:05am

Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 7:54am:

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Go to step 2

I believe these have been your command sentences, Commander Science.

Not Scientific.
In an algorithm we use commands.
Don't like it. Go to the end and leave it.
Have you seen the movie "Love me or leave me"? That was also like a command. However it is not actually a command because you may leave.

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George CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Black-Billed Magpie Posts: 8126 Boise, Idaho USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #108 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 8:29am Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 6:55am: I'm not going anywhere unless there's balloons and clowns. And I want a pony ride. I know it's not scientific, but yer killin' me, Smalls. Best, George
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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #109 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 8:37am Quote: Go to step 2 and test it. It is simply a command from Commander Science. Quote: Go to the end and leave it. Quote: 3. Efective? Yes > explain how (scientifically) No > end thanks for the little hint and giving away the ending. Shhhh. I won't tell anyone.
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #110 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:45am

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37-41withrestrictions wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 5:46am:

I have had a look at the links in the last post and I can't find anything that specifically relates to CH.
There is mention of migraine, as a CH sufferer I don't experience migraines, CH is a diagnosis on its own I see that Su Jok advocates blood letting during a headache Undecided

Dear,
This is not the only Technic. Blood letting is used in acute conditions when you see hotness or heat.

You may not see CH in those texts because it is only a name which is not that important, cause it does not mean all CH patients are the same, as you can not say all people named John are the same. they are all different and those differences are the keys to their treatment. That's why you may not find much large researches in holistic medicine.

And the researches done are all like jokes (If you have a little knowledge about holistic med)

One of the reasons they could not be treated in regular medicine could be ignoring the differences.

A diagnosis IS important for those who suffer with any condition or illness, it allows people to accept their symptoms and get evidence based treatment that, if possible cures the cause, or in the case of CH alleviate the symptoms.
I am well aware of holistic approaches but within my profession I rely on evidence based treatments

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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #111 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 10:19am

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Go to the end and leave it.

Are you commanding again? Another command statement for programming followers?

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Have you seen the movie "Love me or leave me"? That was also like a command. However it is not actually a command because you may leave.

The difference being "and" in yours and "or" in the other, Mr. Commando Science.

Not much sunshine blowing again today.

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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #112 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 10:27am Quote: Blood letting is used in acute conditions when you see hotness or heat. Follow commands to 18th century.
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jon019 CH.com Alumnus Offline "Ya gotta believe!" Posts: 1656 USA Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #113 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 1:54pm "Gort!, Klaatu barada nikto"
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #114 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 1:55pm

37-41withrestrictions wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:45am:

I am well aware of holistic approaches but within my profession I rely on evidence based treatments

Yes, but all the symptoms are important, and as you may know the names like Sinusitis, Migraine are not the symptoms in holistic medicine. Symptoms are the explanation of the problem received from a patient.

For example:
I have a headache (feeling burning or hotness/coldness/fullness/lightness/emptiness), I feel it on the top/Sides/left/right/back ... along with back pain which is like heavy/full/cold/empty ...

We have to study all these symptoms to find the cause.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #115 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:03pm Kevin_M wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 10:27am: Follow commands to 18th century. Brungilda, apply a leech to this man's forehead. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!! You need to or
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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #116 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:24pm That must be the Ayatollah on the left. Potter
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Melby29 CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 91	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #117 - Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:19pm If laughter truly is the best medicine, then I am about to be cured of all my ailments!!!!!
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #118 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 12:50am

Brew wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:03pm:

Brungilda, apply a leech to this man's forehead.

Not Scientific.
Irrelevant.
Ignorance is the disease of this century.
What do you know about leach therapy?

Potter wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:24pm:

That must be the Ayatollah on the left.

Not Scientific.
Irrelevant.

Melby29 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:19pm:

If laughter truly is the best medicine, then I am about to be cured of all my ailments!!!!!

Not Scientific. Irrelevant.
Su Jok Smile Therapy is another subject.

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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #119 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 12:56am

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Brew wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:03pm:

Brungilda, apply a leech to this man's forehead.

Not Scientific.
Irrelevant.
Ignorance is the disease of this century.
What do you know about leach therapy?

Potter wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 2:24pm:

That must be the Ayatollah on the left.

Not Scientific.
Irrelevant.

Melby29 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:19pm:

If laughter truly is the best medicine, then I am about to be cured of all my ailments!!!!!

Not Scientific. Irrelevant.
Su Jok Smile Therapy is another subject.

Laughter is the best medicine and we're laughing at you and your very unscientific theories.

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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #120 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 7:39am

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Acute phases of any disease could be explained as expansion of energy. This is also seen in acute headaches that are extreme expansion of energy. It is like hotness and you may feel it in acute headaches.

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Blood letting is used in acute conditions when you see hotness or heat.

Well, we'd prefer to breath oxygen, but do you suggest high flow rate with your treatment?

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Ghiassi Ex Member	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #121 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 8:08am Potter wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 12:56am: your very unscientific theories. Not Scientific. Prejudgment. You have not tested it yet, dear.
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Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach
Reply #122 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 8:12am

Kevin_M wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 7:39am:

Well, we'd prefer to breath oxygen, but do you suggest high flow rate with your treatment?

I have no idea about oxygen therapy in CH,
however this method does not interfere with that.
Oxygen is usually good to treat any illnesses, because it is related to blood and Qi.
We should also remember that oxygen is not the only thing our cells need.

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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #123 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 9:01am Ghassi, I'll say this much - you certainly are a good sport.
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37-41withrestrictions CH.com Veteran Offline NOT SO PF AT THE MOMENT Posts: 124 Chester UK Gender:	Re: Su Jok Therapy Approach Reply #124 - Feb 27^th, 2011 at 9:13am Melby29 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:19pm: If laughter truly is the best medicine, then I am about to be cured of all my ailments!!!!! I should have no ailments either! I love laughing. Life always seems brighter when there's laughter
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