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Mar 10th, 2011 at 12:50am
 
It all started 3 years ago.

I was sleeping over at my girlfriends house (now my fiancée) when I woke up with the most severe throbbing in my temple that I have ever had. I was confused and was craddling my head in my right arm flopping back on forth on the bed. It was strange to me that when I was rubbing my temple where I felt the pain there felt like there was a cord in my temple that was not supposed to be there. I could trace the vein across my temple and could feel it twisting and turning down into the bast of my neck. I woke her with all my commotion and she gave me some Tylenol. I moved to the floor where I continued to roll to and fro until the aching and stabbing dulled to the point where I dosed off, man when that first attack was over it was like winning the lottery I felt so good, little did I know what the future had in store for me...

The next morning I thought to myself. Holy shit that was the most severe pain I have ever encountered. Pain at that level has a lasting impression.

The most pain I had been in before that was at the age of 11 when I broke my arm (Radius and Ulna) in the playground and the lower half of my arm slid back and was resting underneath the top half. That wasn't the painful part, the painful part was at the doctors office. They couldn't decide whether or not to do surgery. The doctor decided he was going to try and place it. I remember them waking me up, then asking my parents to leave the room because it wasn't something they suggested not be around. One doctor braced the lower half of my arm and pinned my elbow to the table. The other doctor proceeded grab my arm just below the wrist, and I felt my bones sliding and scarping along one another. Oh man did I ever scream. Painful enough to have been permanently put into the memory of my brain. Like I said, severe pain has a lasting impression.

The first headache was brutal, and I had another one a few days later. I talked to friends and family and we concluded it was from stress. A few months before I found out I was going to be a father. I had just started a new (real) job and was in the middle of buying a house. I assumed the combination of the 3 just caused my head to ache. Why wouldn't it right? We got into the house, baby was born and was getting stellar reviews at the new job. Still the headaches lingered...

I realized that when I described these headaches to friends and family they didn't quite understand the pain. I tried to explain the 'aura' that I felt, I could almost feel this weird lingering around my head (later discovering thats what is called the 'shadow') and they just looked at me like I was high.

Well the snow was finally disappearing on the Wasatch Mountain range and with it so did my headaches. I felt like a new man. I could drink alcohol with my friends again. I felt like I could actually concentrate once more. I thought it was over. I thought to myself, well hell I guess I know what to look forward to at my midlife crisis, but boy was I ever wrong.

Next spring came along. My life was great. I had a beautiful healthy daughter, had the nice little house with the hardwood floors, had the gorgeous lady to come home to and cook fine meals on my BBQ. Then, in the middle of the night I awoke with the demon. Throbbing pulsating vein piercing my eye, neck & temple. WTF!

At that point I hit the internet. Researching headache sites and stumbled across the definition of cluster headaches. When i read the definition it was EXACTLY what I was experiencing. I kept reading and discovered not only is there no relief for these headaches, but they have no idea what causes them and for what reasons. Doomed! I talked with a friend at work who suffers from headaches, not cluster, but headaches none the less and he let me know of his doctor he had been going to who specialized in headaches. I call them up and they require I see the in house family practice doctor first and be 'recommended' to the neurology specialist and that it is going to be 45 days before I can come in just to see the family practice to be referred to the specialist. I signed up and of course by the time I went to doctor my cycle had ended he said this:

"The specialist is just going to recommend a cat scan to make sure its not some sort of growth or tumor. If they don't find anything, and from looking at you, your healthy and I doubt there is anything like that."

He gave me a prescription to something that I never got filled, told me it may or may not help. You see I am the kind of person that has always held the mentality that prescription drugs are Satan spawn. Hell I won't even take advil. I feel that my body has been great at dealing with pain and sickness on its own for 24 years I don't need any man-made narcotics thrown into my body. Even when I had my snowboarding injury and required surgery I just sold the Lora-tabs I was prescribed because I didn't feel they were necessary. I should mention I did smoke recreational  marijuana at the time so that may have been a good enough anesthetic. I know there is irony in the fact I wouldn't take any man made drugs but smoked natural ones, but thats a different story. Smiley

To be completely caught up, I felt the shadows come back about a month ago, and the headaches have started again and have been going now for a few weeks. I have come across this site once or twice before in the past, but never signed up. I am getting older and I feel that there will be some comfort here that seems would be nice. The simple fact of people who actually know how I feel, instead of sympathizers who say "Oh Man, headaches are the worst." These people will never understand.

Thats my story and I am sticking to it. Now on to some of the details and notes about my little demon.
  • Headaches started at night.
  • Headaches have moved to heavy shadows, even light headaches during the day, then the demon comes out around 7-9pm.
  • Haven't had any wake-up headaches this time around.
  • This one is hard to explain, during and post headache, my right nasal passage (side where my demon is) is like linked to a specific part of my brain. During and post headaches when I take large breaths through my nostrils I can feel cool air almost piercing my brain, does this sound familiar or make sense?
  • Can usually divert headaches with a large coke (i hate cola but hell it works) or a large cup of coffee, but we all know that demon is coming sooner or later.
  • I almost feel like if I could just pop my neck just right it would release the pressure of the vein in my skull, though its never happend...


Thanks for listening to my story and I enjoy spending some time to on these forums in the future, maybe we can work on a cure. Smiley

-Tyler aka Beta
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Reply #1 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 7:56am
 
Thanks for posting, Beta, and welcome. Some of what you describe is familiar territory, and some of it is new to me. We're all different, however, and apart from the commonality of torturous intense pain located in, around and near one eye...well, the beast comes in different clothing. I get your reluctance to meds. The deal is, some of them help, especially since you can't think your way into or out of a CH. They come because they come. Since you've already mentioned one form of "alternative" treatment-which by the way, if I understood correctly, has a nasty way of making CHs worse-you might want to check out clusterbusters. They have a unique homeopathic approach that is gaining credence in the medical community. Fact is, you don't have to take this lying down. O2, melatonin, energy drinks, D3, fish oil, kudzu....bunches of stuff being tested and tried and found hopefully helpful. Good luck and God bless. lance
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Reply #2 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 8:18am
 
Hey Tyler,

I'm Brad...also a newbie and just learning to live with this monster. I dipped in here a few days ago and luckily caught the ear of a couple of really helpful, very switched on, long time members, Joe & Bejeeber.

I've pasted my post and their replies below. Their advice works mate. I'm in Vietnam at the moment without any medication.
It's next to impossible to find...but i did get my hands on oxygen and am managing.
I'd try bejeeber's approach if i were you as well...
Sure wish you all the very best...
Brad.

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Reply #4 - Mar 6th, 2011 at 12:30am      First of all I'd like to say thanks to all of you for being here. It's really fantastic to find a supportive group of folks that know all about this monster. It was very daunting to come down with headaches that, 1: I dont really understand and 2: didn't, at the onset, think I would survive. It really seemed to me that anything that could possibly pack a wallop like that must be lethal or at the very least, permanently debilitating. I thought I was having an aneurysm or stroke or who knows what but I didn't think I would be getting up off the floor on my own steam....not ever.

My name is Brad. I'm 46, caucasian, work in Vietnam and live in Bali. I had my first real bout with cluster headaches in Singapore exactly 2 years ago. I was terrified when I got the first few. They lasted for a couple of hours each. They took my by storm, blasted me out of bed and had me writhing on the floor in a matter of minutes and left me just as fast...obviously a little worse for wear. I would have gone to the ER but couldn't imagine having to deal with ambulances, paramedics and doctors and the whole process of checking into a hospital alone in a foreign country. I seriously thought I was dying anyway and wanted to do it alone & on my own terms. When it was over I couldn't believe what had just happened. More to the point, I couldn't believe that I was OK again. Seriously??? WTF??? I found a neurologist that night on the internet and was waiting for him as his office opened the following morning. I told him that I'd just had a headache that hurt WAY more than a headache should. He took me onboard immediately and sent me for an MRI that revealed nothing unusual. After a bit of Q&A he told me I am suffering from cluster headaches. Until that very moment I had no idea that such a thing even existed. I was given a big bag of steroids and single shot self injection kits and sent on my merry way. The typical ruff-neck mentality in me never had any compassion for migrain sufferers and used to joke that it was all in their heads. Certainly wish I could take that back now. The headaches came twice a day for the next 6 weeks but the medication made them, let's say, just doable.

So what brings me here today, 2 years on, is to ask some advice on how to get thru the next round...with no medication and no oxygen. Nothing. Logistically speaking, I'm in a terrible situation. I'm the captain of an offshore drilling rig. I'm writing from the middle of the south china sea, miles off the coast of the mekong delta. I'm going to be here for 3 more weeks, like it or not. The very troubling thing is that last night at 2:00 am, for the first time in 2 years,  I got knocked out of bed by a cluster headache. What I gather from all the information out there is that this is not going away for a while and is only going to get worse.
I have some folks in Ho Chi Minh City combing the pharmacies for imitrex at the moment but so far they aren't having any luck and seemingly it is a controlled drug in Vietnam and not easy to get.

I'd like to know if there is any way to really mentally prepare for a cluster headache? Ive seen people have surgery with no anesthetic by simply getting themselves in the right frame of mind before the procedure, I believe thru meditation or self hypnosis. Does anyone out there know some of these techniques? Given that it's my only option at the moment, I'd sure like to think it's possible. 

Thanks again to all of you out there. Lovely to see people with this outrageous affliction networking and helping each other along.

With My Warmest Regards,
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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2011 at 9:15am    Since you're getting hit at night, see if you can score some melatonin. An over the counter sleep aid here in the states. Start with 9 mg about 30 minutes before you go to sleep. Helps many avoid the night time terrors. You may have to adjust dosing, give it a few nights.

Since you're on a drilling rig, I suspect you have some oxy acetelyne welding outfits somewhere on that rig. Use that oxygen. When you feel the attack starting, immediately start breathing pure 02. The key is to get nothing but pure oxygen to your lungs, preferably at a breathing rate high enough for hyper ventilation. I abort attacks in about 6-8 minutes that way. Use the welding rig for now, obviously do NOT turn on the acetylene, only the 02, and huff off of that.

Then read this link to learn various ways to set yourself up with 02. On or off cycle I have 6 E-Tanks in my garage so I'm NEVER withou 02.

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Have your buddies grab you some energy drinks, Monster, Rock Star, Red Bull, any containing caffiene and taurine. Chugged at the first sign of a hit many can abort or reduce the intensity of a hit.

Avoid alcohol, a very common trigger for many when on cycle. Go to a freezer when you're getting hit, sucking ice cold air thru the nostril on my affected side will reduce the intensity of my pain. In a pinch I've used the ac vents in my car with the ac on max. Ice packs on my neck and head help too.

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Reply #6 - Mar 6th, 2011 at 8:02pm      Cheers Joe...you're a legend. Never considered the welding shop for O2. There's heaps there. Your last name isn't  McGyver is it? I've got a mate here that has some sleeping pils, not melatonin though...I think it's soma or something like that. Prescription stuff. We've got a huge walk in freezer in the galley that stays at minus 20. Lots of room to thrash around in there. The rig is dry, no booze out here even if I was inclined to neck a jar or 2. Appreciate the heads up on the trigger though Pal. Can't thank you enough for your reply. No doubt it's going to make the next few weeks way more tolerable. All the best to you Joe.
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Reply #7 - Mar 6th, 2011 at 8:44pm    Lucky that Joe piped in because yes he is a legend, and you got an earful of the best advice around!

I'm in agreement with the O2, freezing air and everything else mentioned.

Melatonin actually appears to do something to prevent the attacks for some people, unlike other sleeping pills.

If there's any delay with getting a proper mask for the O2, I can tell you I've aborted hits with freezing air before - just get in that freezer right at onset, breathe deeply, and you might even want to have ice cubes in your mouth - especially on the cluster side - while you're in there.

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You may also want  to check out the clusterbusters route if Rivea Corymbosa seeds for instance happen to be legal and obtainable there (they are legal to mail order and possess in The US, UK, etc.). Some people are knocking out entire episodes in this way with very short lived side effects.

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Wecome to the board! If the natural herb you're speaking of is marijuana, stay away from it when you're on cycle! It's a vaso dialator, which is the worst possible scenario for a cluster headache sufferer!

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Click on this link. It lists some alternative therapies, everything from mushrooms to RC seeds. They have been cranking out some amazing success stories, especially for some of our more severe cases for whom traditional meds were not working.

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Then check out this link. It shows how to properly use oxygen to abort your attacks. Breathing pure 02 aborts my attacks in 6-8 minutes, about as natural as it gets!

Welcome to the board, wishing you some pain free time soon.

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Reply #4 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 9:56am
 
We all know the pain and wish you didn't have the need to seek out this site but it has been a lifesaver to me (and so many others)!  Anybody who advocates torture to extract information has never been in unbearable pain for any length of time. I've had attacks during which I'd gladly sell my soul to get any relief.
All the information presented by the other (and more experienced) members is spot on and has helped me tremendously! 
I haven't yet tried the Cluster Busters approach but am looking into it for next cycle  Cheesy
The Oxygen helped me stretch out my supply of Imitrex so I never felt the need to go over the two dose daily max (we differ in our opinions on drugs but decades ago when it was the only thing available to me, Imitrex did save my life).
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Reply #5 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 1:26pm
 
Thanks everyone for the great and fast replies!

@Glassman - It's crazy that during an attack we are so desperate for relief we would do just about anything. I am still blown away with every attack at how bad the pain is but after the attack how fine I feel. I've had pneumonia before and with most other pain or diseases you slowly recover. Not these bad boys, your fine one moment and next thing I know I am wondering how I can decapitate half of my head... Thanks for the support!

@Guiseppi - Yes it was the pot, and I found that out the hard way with my second bout of headaches last year. In the past if I ever had a headache and I smoked a little herbal remedies it would alleviate the pain or at least dull it. Those of course are not considered head aches to me anymore after I started suffering from clusters. The word headache doesn't really define the pain of a CH. I would go more along the lines of headpainroyale or face-eye-stab. Smiley Thanks for the links. I have come across a few sites that have mentioned the use of mushrooms as a way to abort a cycle and am trying to sniff some out now. As far as oxygen I am not sure how I would go about obtaining pure O2. I will let you know how it goes. Cheers and thanks!

@Brad - Thanks for showing the amazing support that this board offers. I am sorry your so isolated out there, but it sounds like you've found some great support here. I am curious though. From what I have read CH's are not very common near sea level, and even less common the closer to the equator your at. I live in high elevations and enjoy skiing which takes me even higher. I have been curious if that may be what's causing my headaches, because I frequently visit the mountains during the winter and maybe going from 8,000 ft to 10,420 a few times of week slowly brings them on. I was even considering moving somewhere coastal once my fiancee is done with school to see if that would eliminate the demons... Thanks and I wish you the best of luck during the next few weeks.

@Wimsey1 - Thanks for the quick reply. I have been somewhat successful at aborting attacks, but it only goes so far. Sooner or later the demon always pokes his little head. And yes my alternative approach to medicine just doesn't do the trick with these and just makes the situation worse. It is truly strange how different yet related everyone's attacks are. Thanks for the kind words and wish you the best as well!

I should also mention that since this attack has started I have tried cleaning up my lifestyle to see if that helps. I have cut 95% of processed foods from my diet and have begun exercising 3-4 times a week. I have ordered some nutritional supplements that I will start taking religiously as well. I am wondering if I get into the best shape of my life if that will help at all, because as most people know we are willing to try just about anything to counter a cycle.

Cheers and thanks again! I will keep yo all informed.

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Beta wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 1:26pm:
...As far as oxygen I am not sure how I would go about obtaining pure O2...


Hi Tyler - welcome to the boobyhatch!  Cheesy

Lotsa CH'ers who don't have a prescription from a doctor for obtaining O2 from a medical supply place are just popping over to the local welding supply place and getting the same O2 there without prescription. Cheap.

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You came to the right place (well this and the clusterbusters.com message board). Here's to you finding some significant relief and soon.  Smiley
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Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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Reply #7 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 6:01pm
 
As far as life style changes.....they help a smidgen, but not much. I'm a workout nut, weight lifter, heavy bike rider, (I leave in 9 days for a bike ride from San Diego to Florida! Wink), so sadly, while avoiding triggers like alcohol or sleep deprivation will help a little to reduce the number of hits, it's only a small improvement. Undecided

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Guiseppi wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 6:01pm:
I leave in 9 days for a bike ride from San Diego to Florida!


Whoa - wait a minute, you can't do that!  Shocked WTF are we going to do here without you guiding the incoming CH'ers?  Shocked

Well we can hope you'll have a good smart phone or some such thing with you so you can pipe in here and do some triage etc. in the evenings..... Huh
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Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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Reply #9 - Mar 11th, 2011 at 2:38am
 
Hey Tyler...looks like we've found ourselves a brilliant group of folks in here to help us along. Although it's way too soon for me to offer up much in the way of advice, but I wouldn't buy that beach house just yet, if it's only pain relief you're looking for anyway. I'm originally from Calgary Alberta. Spent ALL of my free time skiing the high rockies. The only headaches I had up there were from the hot toddies. The beast actually FOUND me at sea level. I work at sea level and when I'm home, my place is just a stone's throw from the water, 4 degrees south of the equator.
One thing I'm learning very quickly as a result of being medically stranded out here is that my pain threshold is getting progressively higher. I can tolerate more, I'm getting stronger. I just keep telling myself when I'm getting hit that this is only temporary, I know for sure it cant kill me and any minute now I'm going to feel ok. The sensation of normality returning is fantastic as the headache drains out of my ear. Stay positive kiddo. Let's Just Kick This Thing's Ass.
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Reply #10 - Mar 11th, 2011 at 4:37am
 
Buy the beach house, but not as a way to avoid CHs. If it were that simple we'd all be living on a beach. I live about 200 metres from the sea not far above sea level and I still get CHs.
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Guiseppi wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 6:01pm:
As far as life style changes.....they help a smidgen, but not much. I'm a workout nut, weight lifter, heavy bike rider, (I leave in 9 days for a bike ride from San Diego to Florida! Wink), so sadly, while avoiding triggers like alcohol or sleep deprivation will help a little to reduce the number of hits, it's only a small improvement. UndecidedJoe


Fantastic news, Joe. Stay alert, stay safe. Look forward to hearing of adventures you will have. God bless! lance
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Guiseppi wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 6:01pm:
(I leave in 9 days for a bike ride from San Diego to Florida! Wink),

Impressive, Joe! How long will that take you? Are you part of a larger group?
Yes, please give updates on this!
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gruvedawg wrote on Mar 11th, 2011 at 2:38am:
I work at sea level and when I'm home, my place is just a stone's throw from the water, 4 degrees south of the equator.

Hey gruvedawg, sounds pretty awesome... just where do you live (unless you prefer to not let anyone know). I'm jealous since I'm stuck here in gray all day Ohio and miss the Sun awful bad....yesterday and the day before I had to resort to boost my vitamin D3 supplements with chocolate! Smiley
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'm traveling with a group of 16. I'll post a link to our blog in the genral section before i leave! I really appreciate the well wishes!

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Reply #15 - Mar 13th, 2011 at 1:34pm
 
@Bejeeber -  Thanks for the advice on obtaining pure oxygen. Everyone at work know I have these headahces, I work in a photostudio, (I am sure the constant popping off of camera strobe's doesn't help, but my headaches never seem to come while I am at work, luckily). I asked my boss who does a lot of woodworking in his spare time if he knew of any welding shops and named a few for me, he asked me why I wanted them and I told them I wanted to buy oxygen to huff like a madman. He said he wouldn't suggest buying o2 and huffing it and I then gave him a very serious look and asked told him if he suffered from just one of my headaches he would be willing to try just about anything, he then told me that I give him headaches, what an ass Tongue

I am curious though, do they have the oxygen mask and everything there I would need? Perhaps you more experienced Clusterheads can point me to a link that will show me all the equipment I will need?

Again, thanks a ton for the suggestion.

@Guiseppi - Joe, thanks for passing along this knowledge to me. I used to be really fit, but am no means out of shape. I do much snowboarding and just adding p90x (maybe a bit extreme Smiley ) into the mix. I went online and ordered a OrangeTriad which is a Immune, digestion and vitamin supplement. More info here - Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register - I am not sure if its going to help, but I have been doing the excersizes and taking this and was pain free for 4 days up until last night.  Sad  This may have been due to the fact I worked late and didn't get home until 1am, I was resting getting ready for bed when I felt the beast coming. I think I have diverted most headaches over this past 4 days because I have also been doing water x3, but my second job working at a bar was somewhat hard to stay on the 30min water cycle when we get our rush. I cook at the bar, not bartend. It drives me nuts at the end of shifts when I used to get my free beer and get to chill out, but now I give it away to the other chefs.

Thanks for the stellar advice and good luck and safe travels on your extended bike trip.

@ Gruvedawg - DAMN! My plans foiled!  Grin At least I have this great support group that has questions to my answers that doctors never have. You have a great outlook on your headaches and if you ever find yourself in Utah let me know and we can go hit the slopes. Cool

@ Mike - It's funny how when I am having my little visit from the beast how my mind goes crazy thinking of ways to clear the little bastard. I think of all different ways of removing my trig artery and replacing with a synthetic one  Cheesy and also ponder hard on my past thinking if there was a significant moment that would have lead me to becoming a clusterhead and if I could have avoided it. Like what if theres a special strain of mesquito that we all just happen to be so lucky to be bitten by. Oh the thoughts that cross the mind when we are so desperate. Thanks for your input.  Smiley

To Everyone - Luck may be on my side this time around. I have talked to a friend who has a little present for me. He made a batch of chocolates that has our little psychedelic friend in them. Today is my only day off and about to go pick them up. From what I have read about half the 'recreational' dose is what is needed and thats what he has. ( I guess thats why he hasn't used them himself. ) I have experimented with these little guys before so I am not necessarily a rookie but had a few questions for those who have had success aborting cycles.

A few notes for those who are just being informed on this homeopathic approach and for journal like reasons...

- I take no prescriptions and have avoided them my life so there is no need to detox from any drugs.

- I am a healthy 26 year old male who has suffered for 3 years.

- I am in week 4.5 of this cycle, typically cycles last 2-3 months for me. Start in march and end in may. So I guess you could say I am in mid-cycle, but I think my peak is in a week or two.

- I am going to bust this bitch!

Wish me luck and I will let you know how this goes! Thanks for everyones advice and support. You've already made it easier to deal with the demon.

Cheers, Beta.
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Good luck Beta!  Let us all know how well it goes for you!
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Reply #17 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 2:24am
 
Sounds FANTASTIC Beta...i get around a bit ...love utah. If you wanna hang up the sticks for a bit and catch a wave, I'm in Bali. Free barrel rides 7 days a week. The door's WIDE open anytime you like Bro.
@Glassman....ditto Pal...surf's up. Lotsa room for amazing people like you.

Take care everyone!
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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 10:05am
 
Way cool for the open invite Gruvedawg!  If for some reason you find a need to head to Central Ohio give me a heads up! (It's not so bad here in the Spring/Summer/Fall when the sun re-appears! Cool)
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Reply #19 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 2:24pm
 
FEELING GREAT!


So I took my littler experiment on Sunday and it is now Wednesday.

It was strange as I felt an almost draining feeling in my head during my 'medication'. My head had not felt that good in months.

I let my lady know what I was doing, asked her to to keep our daughter entertained for the next few hours, got us a nice lunch from Chipolte and then digested my little friends.

I spent the next few hours in my office with my sketchpad and headphones on. Though I produced no art I had a great afternoon. Smiley I turned my Last.fm station to classical and enjoyed some of the finest music I have heard in a while.

I really wanted to go lay in my backyard with my headphones on but my neighbor was out working in his yard and dreaded a conversation with him. Though I am sure he has done his fair share of LSD with his nappy gray ponytail that goes to his butt and cool American flag bandanna, but the social stigma of the shrooms kept me locked away in my office.

Since my dosing I have had a few shadows, and then last night I think I had what was a CH, but it was sooooo mild that it didn't stop me from going to sleep. The night before I took my medication I had what I would have considered a Kip 6.5. Definitely dancing, but last nights would have been a 1.5-2 on the kip scale.

I am planning on a second dose either this friday (if I can get the house to myself for the day, this all depends on the babysitter) and if not I may just take the trip to the mountains with me. I have done it before with snowboarding and there is nothing like spending half a day in the backcountry, not really snowboarding just wondering around, enjoying nature. I will take a 'babysitter' with me because its never safe to go back there alone. I am hoping this dose will abort the cycle for good, but either way I am in a MUCH better place than I was a week ago.

First I want to sake
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK
YOU to this site and all the links and information I have come across because of it. I will be donating some dinero and after my cycle is done for sure (may at the latest) I am going to be taking the clusterbusters survey and plan on being active in both communities.

A few questions to those have aborted or 'medicated' their cycles.

- Alcohol, when were you able to start having a few social drinks again? I am by no means an alcoholic, but did enjoy a fine German lager with dinner every now and then, not to mention my best friends birthday is coming soon and was hoping to partake in at least a beer and shot with him. Were you able to break you cycle and then go have a beer? ahh beer, it sounds so good when i haven't had a nice cold one in a few months...

-Inducing headaches. I read that some people induce their headaches when they 'medicate'. Is this necessary? Is there a larger chance of aborting a cycle if your currently having a trip from the demon when you take the hallucinogenic friend?

That is all, and I hope you all have similar experiences, there is HOPE! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

-Beta, enjoying sleep again...
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Reply #20 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 3:24pm
 
Hi to gruvedawg and Beta,
I will say a belated welcome to you, because it seems you are 'on the page'
and settling in nicely!

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This is Music to our ears here guys!
Positive attitude is half of our personal battle against the beast!

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Reply #21 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 4:25pm
 
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There are a few busters who hang out on this board, but you'll have a much better chance of experienced input if you repost this question on the clusterbusters board.

That being said, fantastic news, one person beats the beast down, we all win a little bit. Hoping your success continues!

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Reply #22 - Mar 17th, 2011 at 3:26am
 
Big congrats on the busting success so far Tyler!!

I think I can confidently say that inducing an attack when busting is fortunately NOT necessary.  Smiley

Sorry for the delayed response here about the welding 02 - the welding place won't have masks and you don't want to actually volunteer to them that you'll be using the O2 for something other than welding. The non rebreather type mask that we require for good CH aborts is hard to find locally. Folks have been ordering one online here:

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I'm sorry I don't know for absolute certain about welding O2 places and regulators. I think you'll likely need to order one of those too - hopefully someone definitively in the know will be along to advise about that.

Won't it be nice though if you won't even need any O2!  Grin
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CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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Reply #23 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 4:43pm
 
Hey I don't have a lot to add definitely more experience here than I have to offer as far as treatment.  Your the first person though who has mentioned the neck popping thing (that i have seen) there are a lot of posts on here .  I get the same feeling.  I think that that is the most frustrating feeling because it feels like it would be so easy to fix if I could just get it to pop!!!!!!!!!!!
but alas It never does........Glad to hear your making some progress I hope and pray it continues to work for you.

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I'm just trying to be a pain. But opium and morphine are completely natural. Morphine is  5-15% of what's in opium. Rhubarb leaves are very natural and very very poison. We sometimes get too hung up on "The natural" Man has made some great synthetic meds that save and extend countless lives. We use only materials that are on the earth and modify or mix them. All living organisms do this in there bodies. ie Snakes venom, Skunk Stink bombs etc/ Smoking anything is very very unnatural. You will never see an animal ever smoke anything even if it could. If "you need the weed" eat it. THC is absorbed in the stomach you just don't get a quick high or maybe just bit a high but if you use it for medicine that's not a bad thing ,is it? I'm just trying to give some info out. And just give you a bit of mind messing. I hope you don't take it too seriously, that's not how I mean it.   Just an FYI  MikeS
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