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MDMA and CH
Apr 4^th, 2011 at 1:24pm

Hey guys,
So it seems I only come here once a year when I am in my cluster. I feel like a bad board member and to those suffering more often than I, I can only offer you my love and support, so I will try and be more active here.

I had a question though. I've been in my cluster for about a week now. No drinking. Saturday night I went to a concert and took some MDMA (Molly..like ecstasy, but only the active ingredient). Everything went well and I had a great time, but in the morning I woke up with one of the worst Cluster Headaches I've ever had.

It stuck around about 4x longer too. Now I know the obvious answer is "you took drugs and you were hungover, duh", and that's valid. I'm wondering though about the connection between drugs that release a lot of serotonin and cluster headaches.

Was my headache worse because of the MDMA or was it just a particularly bad one for no reason?

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Re: MDMA and CH
Reply #1 - Apr 4^th, 2011 at 8:44pm

This is the second report in a month here where the use of MDMA was followed by severe headache. (The other report may or may not have been CH, since the individual had not been diagnosed.)

I realize this is not at all conclusive. After all--just because one thing happened before the other did, doesn't mean that they represent cause and effect.

Still... <shrug>

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Re: MDMA and CH
Reply #2 - Apr 5^th, 2011 at 4:10pm

I know MDMA has been implicated in lowering levels of serotonin in the brain of CHRONIC MDMA users...

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I don't know about a "one time use" type of thing, but I've always suspected that it would be a bad move for the clusters. Have you thought about trying some of the Tryptamine hallucinogens that have been known to help clusters, like psilocybin or LSD?

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warnberh CH.com Newbie Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 16 x0\|Long Island City\|USA\|\|0\|0\|NY,New_York	Re: MDMA and CH Reply #3 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 6:00pm Interesting. I've heard about LSD and mushrooms helping CH before, and a friend actually brought me some LSD the other day because she knew I was suffering. My concern though, is that I don't want to be on ACID while going through an attack...that would be too much to handle. So I should wait until I'm between attacks, right?
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Re: MDMA and CH
Reply #4 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 8:21pm

disclaimer, I dont not advocate the taking of drugs nor take them etc... yea yea

YES.......

Although... I feel like the vaso effects of LSD might actually relieve a hit, but from someoe who has been to 80 phish shows.... take it from me dont even try that....

if you are on prednisone or verapamil etc.... you should try to go 5 days without that before trying that

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Reply #6 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 2:10pm

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My concern though, is that I don't want to be on ACID while going through an attack...that would be too much to handle.

I have found that while under the effects of hallucinogens one is immune to CH for the most part. I have been hit while shrooming but did not freak out or die or anything. I just hit the 02 and hung on. Hurts just as bad. Still kickin Wink

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Re: MDMA and CH
Reply #7 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 2:03pm

It was LCD Soundsystem at Madison Square Garden...their last show ever. So epic!

Ok. I take Fioricet as an abortive when I get an attack and I take Propanolol at night so I can get through the night.

The LSD is sitting in my desk just waiting to be used, should I wait until the Fioricet and Propanolol have left my body before taking?

This video is where I got the idea, btw. Lets all go to Denmark and get some damned Bromo.

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chopmyheadoff CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Its only a headache, deal with it - SMACK Posts: 507 x1\|warrington\|United_Kingdom\|europe\|158\|187\| Gender:	Re: MDMA and CH Reply #9 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 8:40am fyi i have used mdma on and off and have been a cher for 7 years. Im pretty sure the two dont have any bearing on each other. iv been hit while using it - and iv used it without being hit. imho its just a coincidence mate pf days to you
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