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aj CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 54 Portland Oregon Gender:	Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Jun 17^th, 2011 at 3:32pm I'm a beer and wine fan; the sucky part of being in cluster now is I have to miss out on some of the beer festivals around here in the summer. It got me wondering, though: is there anyone on this board who can drink when in cluster? I know I can't get a sip down without getting hit; just curious if anyone CAN.
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Potter CH.com Alumnus Offline Team MOOSE DROOL Stinky Stuff on a Hook Prostaff Posts: 3600 Blgs.Mt. Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #1 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 3:39pm Sure there is we're not all the same. I used to stay bellied up to the bar and crank down PBR during the hit which lasted one hour. I knew I had four hours till the next one, and I'd get just shitfaced drunk. I haven't had a beer in fifteen years. Potter
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #2 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 3:58pm A few who are classified as chronic are not affected by alcohol. I've yet to meet an episodic who isn't triggered by booze while in cycle.
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Bob Johnson CH.com Alumnus Offline "Only the educated are free." -Epictetus Posts: 5965 Kennett Square, PA (USA) Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #3 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 4:00pm Over many years of watching I've only seen one decent article which gave some concrete response to the question: came from Europe and said-- red wines, no; white wine, o.k.; distilled spirits, no. But individual variation always rules. Run you own tests on your body and learn.....
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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #4 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 4:08pm

I've noticed the same thing as Brew - I've only seen a few chronics who are unaffected by alcohol, don't recall any episodics who can get away with boozin'.

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There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.

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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #5 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 4:31pm On cycle it's poison for me. Off cycle no problem, obviously episodic! Joe
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oxyrunner CH.com Junior Offline In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity Posts: 41 Kent UK Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #6 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 4:48pm Would usually trigger a full blown Ch within minutes of tasting alchohol but since I've been on Batches D3 regime, and as long as I stay on it, I'm ok with wine BUT if I miss one single dose of D3 and drink = ouch
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AussieBrian CH.com Hall of Famer Offline CH - It's all in your head! Posts: 3851 Cairns, Qld, Australia Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #7 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 8:05pm In cycle or out I can drink what I like, when I like, subject only to supply. Many's the time I've drunk the bastage into submission then peed on his grave. I've admitted this publicly before and only cried a little over the hate mail.
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Guiseppi CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011 Posts: 12063 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #8 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 8:42pm I don't know Brian, I'd have someone else start your car the next few days....I'm not sayin....just sayin....... Joe
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jmchris CH.com Newbie Offline Neoprene Fish Slayer Posts: 10 Seminole, FL Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #9 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 9:13pm That's one thing about an Aussie. They can drink!!! I can remember too many Guinness on more than a few occassions. Of course I learned the hard way about CH triggers. ha... Jeff
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #10 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 10:16pm Is there an easy way to learn?
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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #11 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:09pm

Once again what has been written above just shows that our commonality is only the pain.
In high cycles I can get hit just from smelling alcohol while in low cycles I can pretty much drink what I want except beer Cry

, I had been a beer drinker all my life until I went chronic & now even in low cycle I will get a raging shadow after just 1 beer.
What is weird is that I can drink stout (I make my own) but stout is basically beer, go figure. Roll Eyes

Been a tad cold around our way just lately & have had to resort to drinking a little red whine, last night I had the pleasure of an 11 year old bottle of Blues Point Shiraz Cabernet.

Cheers
Barry

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George CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Black-Billed Magpie Posts: 8126 Boise, Idaho USA Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 12:52am Typical episodic. Like Joe, I can't touch the stuff during a cycle. Out of cycle, however, I can have whatever I like--although I'm not much of a drinker anytime. Best, George
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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 2:31pm

I'm chronic, and I go back and forth with my ability to stand alcohol without getting hit. If I'm getting more than a shadow I usually stay away, but then again I know I've had times when my head had just been hurting low level for too long and I've ended up drinking for the hell of it, I guess I get to the point that I just don't care. The strangest thing is that when I get to this point, the alcohol many times seems like it gets RID of the headache. Only thing that makes sense to me is that I'm too stressed out and the alcohol chills me out. I also find that the home brews I make hit me a lot less then the junk I used to drink.

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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

It would appear...and I am one of them... that chronics can drink. I have no idea of why that is, but over the years here I've talked to a lot of chronics and they, too, can drink. It may be God's way of saying, "you suffer enough, go have a glass of wine"

I even did a un-scientific study of it on myself. I didn't drink anything alcoholic for 3 months and counted how many times I got hit. Then I drank as I usually do for another 3 months and counted how many times I got hit. The difference wasn't even worth mentioning. Go figure, huh? I'm sorry that because you're episodic you can't enjoy a glass of wine or a beer, but it probably isn't worth the pain for you. Wait til you're out of cycle.

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Mike NZ CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Oxygen rocks! D3 too! Posts: 3785 Auckland, New Zealand Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #15 - Jun 20^th, 2011 at 6:50am Another episodic here who isn't triggered by beer, wine or spirits. Although I was only a month off hitting the one year mark to be classed as chronic when my pf time started (93 days so far and continuing).
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BobG CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Posts: 6422 St. George, UT Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #16 - Jun 20^th, 2011 at 6:59pm jmchris wrote on Jun 17^th, 2011 at 9:13pm: That's one thing about an Aussie. They can drink!!! When I was in the army there was an Aussie company camped next to us. We shared an EM club. I learned the Aussies are like a cluster headache. You can not out-drink one! Don't even try.
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Skull Buster CH.com Junior Offline WARNING: Easily amused Posts: 59 birmingham AL Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #17 - Jun 20^th, 2011 at 7:05pm its odd, but i can drink vodka/ clear liquors while im in cycle, but I cant even finish one beer without getting hit. And the clear liquors are a crap shoot. id say 85% of the time i can drink it without a hit. But beer will give me one 100% of the time. That odd?
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gardengal CH.com Junior Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 55 x0\|oskaloosa\|USA\|\|0\|0\| Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #18 - Jun 25^th, 2011 at 5:56pm Has any one tried taking Relpax as a preventitive before drinking? I know, I know, you're supp to,but I have sat at home for 7 weeks and not gone and done anything. I have a wedding to go to and want to be able to have a few drinks.
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aj CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 54 Portland Oregon Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #19 - Jun 25^th, 2011 at 7:35pm The only thing I've heard is if lithium works for you as a preventative, it can also allow you to drink sometimes.
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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #20 - Jun 26^th, 2011 at 11:47am

I have completed extensive research into alcohol intake Grin

It may not be official but I tried really hard!!!! I have drank to excess on numerous occassions and have come to the conclusion ...I never learn!!!

Seriously..
When Im not in a cycle I can drink anything but in a cycle even the thought of alcohol triggers a hit.

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JustNotRight CH.com Sponsor Offline CH version 15.0.8 member since 2005 aka GingerS224 Posts: 1300 Wilkes-Barre, Pa (USA) Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #21 - Jun 26^th, 2011 at 2:19pm I am chronic and can't even drink a teaspoon of any alcohol without getting NAILED to the wall by the beast. I used to enjoy a good dark beer now and again and the occasional glass of vino, but not anymore My hats off to those who can and please enjoy a dark one for me!
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Granny Arizona CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 29 Hawarden, Iowa 51023	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #22 - Jun 26^th, 2011 at 6:41pm I'm wondering of non alcoholic beer would trigger a CH? Strange as it may seem... Propel (an enhanced nutritional water beverage) will trigger a cluster monster on me. I have tried several times and I never fail to awaken at 2:30 AM with a 7 or 8 KIP. Linda
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Cupper CH.com Junior Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 49 Seagrove Beach FL Gender:	Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster? Reply #23 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:19pm I can't do alcohol during a cycle. It makes it far worse. Hence, I've pretty much given up drinking. It's a terrible drug anyhow. I prefer the Cheeba.
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Re: Can anyone have alcohol in cluster?
Reply #24 - Jul 4^th, 2011 at 11:21am

Beer or wine has nailed me with a CH no question about it. I've had hardly any alcohol in the last 4 1/2 months. And I remember one time during cycle I had a few glasses of wine, and bang I got nailed. Even the O2 did'nt relieve it either after I got it. I've been feeling better lately, but now I'm afraid to have a drink just in case it bites me again.

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