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Welder's O2 - Detailed Instructions
Jun 21st, 2011 at 4:10pm
 
Hey everyone, I've been lurking this site for two years now - and I've read the O2 info on the left about a dozen times. 
   
Here is the deal:  Just got my doc to prescribe high-flow O2, but now my insurance company is going to spend several weeks adjudicating my claim to see whether or not they're going to pay for the treatment.  My cycle just started and I've been getting hit twice daily for the past week. 
 
Being a hardhead, I've decided not to wait 14 days for some bureaucrat to decide whether or not I'm allowed to receive my prescribed treatment - I'm going the welder's O2 route.  I just ordered a hi-flow CGA-540 regulator, the Optimask kit and I have sourced out a welding supply company locally that will do tank rentals for $6/mo.
 
Here is where I need some advice:  I have never worked with a welder's tank of O2 before, nor with any compressed gasses for that matter.  I've seen "Jaws" enough times to know that compressed gasses, when handled improperly, can be very dangerous.  Any tips on rigging this thing up that will keep me from blowing my face off? 
 
When I get the tank, do I just close the turn valve on the top and screw the regulator into place via the hex nut?  It can't be that simple, can it?
 
Thanks in advance,
Ken
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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2011 at 10:36pm
 
Ken,

Sorry no one has answered your question before now.

Yes, it is indeed simple - common sense will avoid a nasty accident. Welding rigs and large medical tanks are essentially the same. Attach your regulator after turning it "down" which is always counter-clockwise. Attach it to the tank, tighten well, then open the hand valve on the tank.

The regulator is designed to accurately control flow with small adjustments. The main valve on the tank was designed more as an open/close device so don't try to control flow rate from there - although some valves will.

Things to remember when using medical or welding O2:

- Oxygen itself doesn't actually burn, but it makes virtually everything else burn vigorously when saturated with it.

- Oxygen is colorless and odorless. It is easy for your clothing/blankets/upholstery to become saturated without you realizing it. A shirt that you couldn't start burning with a lighter, will burn fast and hot when saturated in O2.

- Oxygen under pressure can completely change the combustion properties of many materials. For example, common aluminum exposed to pure O2 at 1,200 PSI (look at your gauge) will burn like a flare.

- Same with oils. Look at the gauge on our regulator. It will say something like "use no oil" - they aren't kidding. Even a small residue of certain oils will burn rapidly when exposed to pure O2 at high pressure.

If you think about it, nothing I've said is worse than putting gasoline in your car. In fact, that is far more dangerous because gasoline does burn. Like fueling your car, a little common sense will suffice.

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Reply #2 - Jun 28th, 2011 at 3:20pm
 
Hey - I appreciate the reply, Marc. 
 
It was pretty easy to rig the thing up, once I had all the parts in front of me.  I did chain the tank up to a column post in my basement so I wouldn't have to worry about it accidentally falling over. 
 
In all, it was pretty inexpensive to obtain.  A new CGA540 regulator cost me $90, the 92 cf tank cost $43 to rent for the year (plus $5 for the initial fill) and the mask was $30 off of this here website. 

Frankly, if O2 saves me from having to drink even one more can of that vile Monster Energy crap, it'll all be worth it.

Thanks,
Ken
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Reply #3 - Jun 30th, 2011 at 11:41am
 
I've tried the O2 for two hits now and it doesn't seem to do anything to relieve the pain.  Here is exactly what I did:
   
-  I woke up with a moderate hit (K6/K7) around 1:10 AM.
 
-  I dialed my regulator all the way up to 25lpm.
 
-  Started with the mask, but it didn't feel like it was sealing around my goatee, so I switched to the plastic mouthpiece thing and plugged my nose with my free hand.
 
-  I took rapid, short breaths from the oxygen tube alone for about 10 minutes straight.  After the first 100 or so breaths, my arms started to tingle and I felt dizzy.
 
-  After 10 minutes, I felt no letup in the pain whatsoever and finally shut the tank off in frustration.
   
Can you guys tell me if I am doing something wrong here?   It just doesn't feel like the O2 is doing anything.  Should I be taking long, deep breaths instead of short, rapid ones?  Do you guys usually feel a letup in the pain as you use the O2, or does the pain just switch off after a certain point? 
   
Thanks in advance for your input.
-Ken
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Reply #4 - Jun 30th, 2011 at 2:05pm
 
Many here can abort hits without hyperventilating.  Begin first dialing to about 12Lpm, take in a long, slow breath of only pure oxygen, exhale easily off to the side, continue for eight to ten minutes.

After trying 10-15Lpm breathing and if the results are not useful, high flow and hyperventilating has been found to be a successful method for many who may have thought oxygen not effective enough as an abortive when used at 15Lpm and under.

First try what is comfortable for you, increased flow and breathing rate techniques can always be used when necessary.
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Reply #5 - Jun 30th, 2011 at 2:52pm
 
Kevin,
 
Thank you very much for the reply.  I will try what you suggested next time I get hit.  A couple of short follow-ups, though if you will:

1.  What happens if the lower flow rate isn't filling enough volume for me to breathe comfortably?  Even on 25 lpm, I was draining my 3L bag pretty frequently and having to wait (hold my breath) for it to refill.  I'm a rather large guy and I guess I have pretty big lungs.  On a lower flow rate, is it okay if I have to take a few breaths of regular room air if the bag isn't filling fast enough?  Or should I just get a bigger bag and wait for it to fill up completely before I start breathing?
 
2.  Should I feel the O2 gradually easing the pain of the hit, or should I just expect the attack to cease suddenly?  When I pound down an energy drink, for example, I can feel the pain above my eye diminish instantly after I get a couple of swallows down.  For those of you that use O2 regularly, does O2 normally affect the pain in this manner?
 
Thanks again for your guys' advice.  I really do appreciate it.
-Ken
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Re: Welder's O2 - Detailed Instructions
Reply #6 - Jun 30th, 2011 at 3:26pm
 
Ken_DFA wrote on Jun 30th, 2011 at 2:52pm:
What happens if the lower flow rate isn't filling enough volume for me to breathe comfortably?


On a lower flow rate I just breathe like I'm casually whistling backwards, taking in air, slow and gradual, breathing it out to the side even before full lung capacity, keeping a normal pace that can be maintained for 8-10 minutes.  Most will have their own technique, but ... 


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On a lower flow rate, is it okay if I have to take a few breaths of regular room air if the bag isn't filling fast enough?


It must be only pure oxygen you breathe,  


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Should I feel the O2 gradually easing the pain of the hit, or should I just expect the attack to cease suddenly?


It begins overtaking the hit when it stops getting worse.  This is the first few minutes, then a very short time later a diminishing of pain to its cessation with continued breathing.  And it feels so good to feel normal again.     Smiley
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