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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Smoking Jul 18^th, 2011 at 7:31pm Quote: Individuals With Cluster Headache Appear to Have a Reduced Risk of Developing Lung Cancer From Chronic Cigarette Smoking Todd D. Rozen MD, FAAN The article is in Headache Magazine. Anyone have access to it?
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Racer1_NC CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline "Well, let's go see." Posts: 4417 Lewisville, NC Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #1 - Jul 18^th, 2011 at 10:18pm I wish I did......although I can't imagine how clusters could be an influence on cancer of any type.......
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Reply #3 - Jul 19^th, 2011 at 3:57pm

Bob,

I found an article on smoking associated with Cranial Autonomic Symptoms in migraine where
he does mention cluster headache.

Probably not exactly what you were looking for but, it is all I have found...for now.

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A History of Cigarette Smoking Is Associated With the Development of Cranial Autonomic Symptoms With Migraine Headaches
Todd D. Rozen, MD, FAAN

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New research 460: Smoking and CAS in migraine
Headache: The Journal of Head and Face Pain
Published Online: 10 Jun 2010

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A History of Cigarette Smoking Is Associated With the Development of Cranial Autonomic Symptoms With Migraine Headaches
Todd D. Rozen, MD, FAAN

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Re: Smoking
Reply #4 - Jul 19^th, 2011 at 7:37pm

The article just came out this month:
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dividuals With Cluster Headache Appear to Have a Reduced Risk of Developing Lung Cancer From Chronic Cigarette Smoking (pages 1174–1176)
Todd D. Rozen
Article first published online: 18 JUL 2011 | DOI: 10.1111/j.1526-4610.2011.01949.x

There is usually an abstract of the article that is free to read but this article doesn't have one.

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AubanBird CH.com Old Timer Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 250 everywhere... Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #5 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:11pm excercise and coffee are thought to reduce risk of cancer... i imagine IF CH sufferers who smoke dont get lung cancer as often as non CH sufferers who smoke it is because of something related to what we do in response to the CH. then again, smoking reduces your chances of getting alzheimer's... fewer smokers live that long...
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Re: Smoking
Reply #6 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 5:02pm

Bob P wrote on Jul 19^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:

The article just came out this month:
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Individuals With Cluster Headache Appear to Have a Reduced Risk of Developing Lung Cancer From Chronic Cigarette Smoking (pages 1174–1176)
Todd D. Rozen
Article first published online: 18 JUL 2011 | DOI: 10.1111/j.1526-4610.2011.01949.x

There is usually an abstract of the article that is free to read but this article doesn't have one.

Bob,
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Rozen, T. D. (2011), Individuals With Cluster Headache Appear to Have a Reduced Risk of Developing Lung Cancer From Chronic Cigarette Smoking. Headache: The Journal of Head and Face Pain, 51: 1174–1176. doi: 10.1111/j.1526-4610.2011.01949.x

Author Information
Department of Neurology, Geisinger Wyoming Valley/Geisinger Health System, Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA

Funding: Study was supported by an unrestricted educational grant from Linde Healthcare, The Linde Group.
The author received no honoraria for this study.

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Article first published online: 18 JUL 2011
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Beli CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 5 OC, CA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #7 - Jul 31^st, 2011 at 8:41am My dad died of lung cancer and he was CHer for over 25 years. He stopped smoking about 7 years before he got his lung cancer. I didn't get my first CH until 2 years after I stopped smoking.
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #8 - Jul 31^st, 2011 at 10:01am It's different for everyone. I got my first CH when I was 16, the same year I started smoking. I've been quit for almost 8 years now, so who knows what will happen.
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Re: Smoking
Reply #9 - Jul 31^st, 2011 at 12:33pm

I quit smoking in 1980 at 34. 11 years on my CH went the way of the dodo. I was 45. I don't see a connection.

I still don't think CH and general health are related. I have no idea the effects of tobacco on other diseases, however.

There would have to be one helluva benefit for me to stand outside in a blizzard "grabbing a smoke" at $9 a pack.

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sleepwalker CH.com Newbie Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 3	Re: Smoking Reply #10 - Jul 31^st, 2011 at 12:52pm hello all this is the new guy and i smoke a lot espically durin an attack but i think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch its rubbish
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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #11 - Aug 1^st, 2011 at 8:08am Quote: it would not be wise to belive that reasearch its rubbish You know this how? Doc Rosen is a well known CH specialist and researcher. I imagine his article contains numbers to back up his statement. Where are yours?
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #12 - Aug 1^st, 2011 at 9:16pm Bob, if you read the sentence again, I believe sleepwalker means it wouldn't be wise to discount the research. Is this right?
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Brew CH.com Sponsor CH.com Alumnus Offline Posts: 14163	Re: Smoking Reply #13 - Aug 1^st, 2011 at 9:22pm sleepwalker wrote on Jul 31^st, 2011 at 12:52pm: hello all this is the new guy and i smoke a lot espically durin an attack but i think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch its rubbish The lack of punctuation allows one to interpret this several different ways. Perhaps you could explain a little more?
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Redd CH.com Sponsor Offline Posts: 8457 Stevens Point USA Wisconsin Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #14 - Aug 1^st, 2011 at 11:23pm Punctuation is your friend. Let's eat Grandma. or Let's eat, Grandma.
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Callico CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Author of "Stranded at Romson's Lodge Posts: 4916 Aurora IL Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #15 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 12:33am Or, "She has freckles on her but(t) she is pretty." Spelling is also helpful in this case. JC
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Bob P CH.com Hall of Famer Offline Shut up Bob! Posts: 4573 Clio,California Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #16 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 8:02am My take was: I think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch, its rubbish!
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Kevin_M CH.com Sponsor Offline withered branches grow green again. Posts: 8754 Michigan, USA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #17 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 9:58am Quote: sleepwalker My take was, a talking sleepwalker probably rambles.
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LadyLuv CH.com Alumnus Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1495 Champaign, IL Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #18 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 10:39am Bob P wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 8:02am: My take was: I think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch, its rubbish! My take is the same as Bob P
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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #19 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 10:58am My take is the same as Bob's also but where is sleepwalker, so he can explain what he meant? Chime in any time sleepwalker.
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #20 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 11:20am Quote: i think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch its rubbish Break it down! "I think"= he thinks "it would not"= it wouldn't "be wise to believe"= be smart to believe "that research its rubbish"= that research IS crap? or that research IT IS crap? or that research AND ITS crap? lol,
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Linda_Howell CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Do not feed the Moderators Posts: 11927 Santa Maria, Ca. Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #21 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 11:35am or... Quote: I think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch, its rubbish! I think it would not be wise to believe that research. It's rubbish!
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Melissa CH.com Moderator CH.com Alumnus Offline Don't give up! Posts: 7238 Central WI, USA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #22 - Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 12:19pm Linda_Howell wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2011 at 11:35am: or... Quote: I think it would not be wise to belive that reasearch, its rubbish! I think it would not be wise to believe that research. It's rubbish! Yeah, I see how you all read it now. BTW, wouldn't the OP's "belive" change the whole context of the sentence?
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Ricardo CH.com Veteran Offline I Love CH.com! Posts: 214 MA Gender:	Re: Smoking Reply #23 - Sep 18^th, 2011 at 11:27am This entire post is hilarious....I'll chime in my 2 cents of seriousness. My guess is that this study is pointing towards a genetic cause for clusters. Often times a genetic advantage also ends up having some sort of disadvantage...We get cancer prevention but we end up giving birth to a watermelon out our eye for it. Go figure.
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