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Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:38am
 
Hi I was told this week that the very bad headaches I have been having are cluster headaches, I have never heard of them and since been on the internet seeing what I can find out about them.  I have missed so much work this year because of the headaches,I dont know if I will keep my job.  Can people please tell me what triggers them, how I can prevent getting them (if I can) any information you can would be really good as I am frightened as to what I have read and also really do not want to loose my job because of them.  The doctor prescribed imigran for me this week but they didnt work when the headahce was really intense, any help would be really appreciated.
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Reply #1 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 3:16pm
 
First,
Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you.

Cluster Headache Help and Support › Getting to Know Ya › Newbies, Help us...help you

You can add your location by editing your profile. CP Member --> profile
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Doc isn't doing enough. Suggests he may not have the training/experience needed. If you have the option,seek a headache specialist--without delay.

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.

2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register; On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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Basic learning stuff:


A couple of sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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Cluster headache.
From: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Buttons, left, start with OUCH and its many internal links.
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Print out the PDF file, below and save it as a tool for discussion--either with the present doc (should you have to stay with him) or any new doc.

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Reply #2 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 9:09pm
 

Hello welsh.

Congratulations you've just found the best place to find out all you need to know about CH , which will quickly become more than your GP .

You said he gave you imigran , is it the pill form or the inject ables , the jabs work much better.

Some thing else that can help with milder hits are energy drinks like red bull etc. drink one down as quickly as possible right at the first sign of an attack , it might even reduce pain levels for high Kip hits (see kip scale to the left).

Read read and read some more , knowledge is power, this thing can be controlled , don't let it control you . feel free to ask all the questions you like ,or even just have a rant if you need to .

Good luck , I hope you find some thing that works for you soon.

God bless

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Reply #3 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 11:47pm
 
Yep the imigran (imitrex)  injectible and the inhaler are much more effective than the pills.

There are many like myself who have found quite  significant relief thanks to info and advice found here, not so much thanks to doctors, who are generally uninformed/misinformed about CH treatments.

High flow 100% oxygen (this is much more effective than the way doctors usually prescribe it) has been an absolute breakthrough abortive for so many here and is therefore wildly popular. Check out the oxygen info tab to the left of this page to read all about it.

A particular vitamin D3 regimen for prevention has been making a real stir lately - here's the original topic: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

For a good while now CH'ers have been embracing the clusterbusters approach, as it has the potential to knock out entire cycles for episodics, and send chronics into remission. Here's an article: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register and a video talk on the subject: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register

OK those are some highlights for starters. Stick around here and let's see if we can get you sending this beast packing.  Cool

As hard as it may be to imagine, it's possible to get CH under control enough that the terror becomes just a distant memory.
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« Last Edit: Jul 27th, 2011 at 11:50pm by bejeeber »  

CH according to Bejeeber:

Strictly relying on doctors for CH treatment is often a prescription that will keep you in a whole lot of PAIN. Doctors are WAY behind in many respects, and they are usually completely unaware of the benefits of high flow 100% O2.

There are lots of effective treatments documented at this site. Take matters into your own hands, learn as much as you can here and at clusterbusters.com, put it into practice, then tell this CH beast Jeebs said hello right before you bash him so hard with a swift uppercut knockout punch that his stupid horns go flinging right off.
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