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Just my humble opinion, but you are dead wrong.

What are bath salts?

wgardens wrote on Nov 26^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

You're basically talking about huffing paint or freon to relieve your cluster headache.  It's all the same type of shit.  This type of abortive therapy is absolutely and completely unacceptable!

If are looking for options to relieve your cluster headaches, this is NOT an option!

DJ

wgardens wrote on Nov 27^th, 2011 at 7:28am:

Actually what you see pushed here a lot is Oxygen at a high flow rate,

          Potter

In the interest of trying to keep people from turning into toothless, raving, possibly dead psychotic amphetamine junkies I decided to cut and paste my response to this same post that was put on clusterbusters....


The reason you haven't heard anyone talk about this as a "buster" is because no one knows what it is--Not even you...All you really know is that you smoke some sort of chemical that people have not been taking for longer than a few years.  No one has any clue what it is doing now, tomorrow, a week from now, or 10 years from now.  If you were lucky, and actually knew what the hell it was that you were smoking, it would probably be Mephedrone, M.D.P.V.(Methylenedioxypyrovalerone), or methylone--but you're not lucky.  The US Government (and a bunch of others) have banned these substances, and as you've said "I tried the new 'legal in 50 states' mix"--So...You have no idea at all what the hell you are taking.  In all liklelyhood it is an amphetamine (some of the most dangerous and addictive drugs known to man  -ever hear of "amphetamine psychosis"?)  I'm not surprised that it works for a cluster....I bet crystal meth would work too--and even save you the time and money that lots of people have wasted on having teeth pulled, cause they'll probably fall out...that's what smoking meth does, and it wouldn't surprise me to see that smoking unlicensed, untested tweaked out amphetamines would do the same.  Amphetamines can also send you into weeks of psychosis (even after you've stopped), lead you to very easily become physically addicted, get tolerance to the efffects leading you to need higher and higher doses, cause a neurotoxic reaction in your brain, do kidney damage, cause organ damage, increase your risk of stroke, and a host of other problems any speed freak can tell you.  Will that happen with your "bath salts"?  Who knows?  Nobody.  Cause there are very few people that actually know all the ingredients in it, and once you find out WHAT it is, it doesn't really matter--cause nobody's tested this stuff on anyone but YOU, and all the other crazy guinea pigs out there smoking this stuff.  I actually think Crystal Meth would be safer.(still not recommended )  Than you could actually know what to look out for and know reactions that are typical and when you have to go to the ER... 

The comparison with LSD, mushrooms or other tryptamines is complete nonsense.  Even if they are not legal, these are drugs that have been researched more than most OTC things on the market AND have a huge record of use.  Thousands and Thousands of people have taken LSD, may of them over 50 years ago--the natural hallucinogens have been around for longer than written history.  People know what these drugs are going to do....

Instant relief?  Oxygen, sumatriptan injections, and smoking DMT all work.  The DMT will even work, and then be over within 30 minutes.  Can't recommend it though, especially if it you are recreationally smoking meth like drugs....The DMT would open up a can of whoop ass on your brain like you've never experienced, and scare the fug out of you...Or at least that's been the experience with most people who are immersed in unhealthy behavior and smoke that stuff...It's kinda like holding up a mirror and seeing the truth, and some people REALLY don't like that.

You might think a lot of people have responded pretty negatively to you in this post--I hope you understand that although you did not come on here recommending that people do this, you did come on here, tempting people with the idea that they could have instant relief from a legal substance that they can get over the internet.  And not mentioning that it is a hallucinogenic amphetamine mixture (if you're lucky) that has not even been tested on rats.

wgardens wrote on Nov 27^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

  Yer pissin in the wind.  I have only seen one or two people post that weed alleviated their headache. The rest of us wouldn't touch the stuff in cycle.

    I perused all fourteen of your posts and this one pertains.

quote author=4B5458494B58490F4952484F4E3D0 link=1262829291/16#16 date=1262967432]wgardens wrote on Jan 8^th, 2010 at 9:34am:

  You obviously haven't done your homework.  Oxygen is cheap..........and safe.

             Potter [/quote]
Way cheaper than that white powder you're snorting.  Oh yeah it's safer to

      Potter
 

Welcome to the board Gardens. Please re-read both of the posts by Ricardo. I could not have said it better.

Joe

A day or two ago I posted here about something which had worked to stop my cluster pain within seconds - I was so elated at my 'miracle' that I came here to say 'hey! look what this does!' In hindsight, I should have worded the post much differently, as I know some people took great offense at what I had tried, and didn't want others doing it. I want to point out that I do not in anyway advocate the recreation use of any drug to any person. I believe they destroy lives. So I have edited this to remove the post in question, and thank the ones who (whether in a nice or not-so-nice way) pointed out that I should not be posting my experiences.

So now on to the DEA to find a way for them to allow some cluster-related studies!

No one said you couldn't post your experiences, but you shouldn't be surprised that many here were not receptive and tried to warn you of the dangers of your approach. That is what this site is for.  Exchange of ideas, support for those suffering, and much information.  I don't know what smoking pot has to do with anything, but if you read some of the posts from newbies, you will definetly see that no one reccomends it and in fact discourages it every single time.


DJ simply doesn't want the nastiness & name calling which he deleted.   That is all.

E-tanks of 02 cost me 10.00 per tank.  My welders tanks which are MUCH bigger cost me 26.00.  Most here will tell you the same.  Not expensive in my book and oh....does it work!!!!!!!!!! 

The 10.00 are for the refills. Non-rebreather masks and aregulator are extra, but those too, are inexpensive.  Lincare and Apria are 2 of the biggest suppliers in the nation and are everywhere.