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Nov 29th, 2011 at 5:48pm
 
Hello,

I have seen so many specialists over the years- many here in NYC, and today I had my first visit with Dr. Lawrence Newman. What an amazing guy! He was very personable, knowledgeable, thorough. He listened and was interested in all that I had to say. I really like him. I don't know how I have had the diagnosis of CH since 1998 and never done the indocin test, but since I have a condition that leaves me with a "headache" in my neck and down my arm that really never goes away, and for obvious reasons to rule out CH we are going to give it a try. First, I will be taking it to see if it has affect on the headache in my neck/arm.

But, if I continue to hold onto the diagnosis of CH I feel like there is hope. He rattled off so many things that we could try that I have never tried. Hope is so important as we know...

He mentioned that there were a couple Clusterheads in the waiting room on their way out when I was on my way in...maybe YOU! Smiley

Wishing all a pain free always...or at least today.

Tate! Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #1 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:45pm
 
What time was your appointment? It may very well have been me, since Dr. Newman and I spent plenty of my appointment today discussing the board so it was probably fresh in his head.

He is an absolute lifesaver. Every appointment you have with him will make you feel better, if not always physically, then emotionally. I did the Indocin test too and it was not that effective for me, but your description of your pain is slightly different from what I experience.

Dr. Newman is a fantastic guy, both personally and professionally. He will get you feeling better if it's the last thing he does. I'm glad for your sake you found him!
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Reply #2 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 9:53pm
 
Hi

It was at 3pm. I had a white coat, jeans and was sitting next to the entry door to the offices...

I am kind of blonde ish 39...boots Smiley

He was great. Made me laugh a lot.
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Reply #3 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 10:47pm
 
I believe I did see you, perhaps filling out the whole first appointment information? I was wearing a striped sweater and was with both of my parents since it was an extremely important appointment and desperately trying to schedule my next one... I'm in a really rough high cycle again.

Yes, he will always make you laugh, no matter how bad you may be feeling. Once again, I'm glad you found him and hope you find some success with the Indocin. Even though I said the Indocin was not that effective for me (and it wasn't), I did find SOME relief... so maybe it will be magic for you, or at the very least help a bit.

I'm always available via PM if I can help in some way. Best of luck! You are in very, very good hands.
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Reply #4 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 11:32pm
 
Where is this doctor located and how can I get an appointment for my wonderful husband who is suffering through an episode right now.  we are desperate to get him some relief.  Is this doctor with the NY Headache center?  I thinking about trying to take him there. 
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Reply #5 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 11:36pm
 
Yes! And you and your mom were overhead discussing people coming into town and where you should have your follow up appt. (couldn't help it, small space)

Smiley it's a small big world we have here!

You too. I have had Cluster Headaches since I was 20... Maybe not up on all the meds and such, but can certainly empathize. Here if you need me!

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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 11:43pm
 
Hi, I just saw the other post re husband who needs attention. Yes. Dr. Lawrence Newman. I only waited two weeks for my appt, but said I was not in a huge rush since not in cycle...so when you call mention that your husband is a CH patient currently in cycle and I think they will try and work you in ASAP. Good Luck!!!! I am sorry about your husband, but thankful that he has YOU! Smiley

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Reply #7 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 1:26am
 
Thank you.  I am in tears right now.  I need to help him. I am going to call Dr. Newman.  Has anyone tried a drug called methysigride?  I know it is no longer available in U.S., but was thinking of taking my husband to Canada and getting a script?
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Reply #8 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 9:24am
 
Welcome to the board Bonds, several people have posted of using that medication, but I don't see it mentioned much these days. Not sure if its because it got too hard to get in the states or they found a better option, I've never used it.

Thanks for doing the footwork for your husband, he's damned lucky to have a supporter like you. You sound like my wife who found the original streaming CH board for me and changed my life forever. Try and nudge your hubby into joining us here, nothing compares to talking to other CH'ers who get it.

And take some time to visit the supporters section. Lord knows our supporters need all the support they can get. Good luck with getting in to see Newman, guy sounds like a serious class act. Smiley

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Reply #9 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 3:34pm
 
Bonds, I just want to add that I've been with Dr. Newman for almost a year now and he has  been the most compassionate, caring, and helpful doctor I've ever worked with. He has told me on more than one occasion that he will "get me feeling better whether I like it or not." He's great for a laugh, even when your husband is at his worst. No matter how overwhelmed I'm feeling in the face of my condition, seeing him makes everything better. I hope you're able to get an appointment soon and things look a little brighter for your husband. Dr. Newman is, without a shadow of a doubt, the way to go. He'll get your hubby feeling well.

Is there a specific reason you mentioned methysigride? By that I mean, has your husband used it before or is it just something you've read about? There's no harm in discussing it with Dr. Newman when you go in; if he feels like it's a worthwhile treatment to pursue I'm sure he can find something similar to put your husband on that's still available in the US.

After scheduling my next appointment yesterday (which Tate overheard  Tongue), it seems like Dr. Newman is pretty busy the next little while. You may very well be able to get a pretty quick appointment in anyway, but if you can't I really don't think you can go wrong with any of the four doctors there at the headache institute. They all have excellent qualifications and I'm of the mindset that if they work with Newman, they must be good. By all means, shoot for that appointment with Dr. Newman, but don't rule out the others.

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Reply #10 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 8:54pm
 
As far as the indocin goes...after reading about HC the research mentions that HC is not responsive to triptans, and I imitrex injections absolutely work for me and my cluster attacks.

That said, I started the indocin today and the pain in my neck and down my arm is gone...at least for now. Which is awesome!

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Reply #11 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 8:16am
 
Hey ALL
I too see Dr Newman!! He is an amazing doctor for sure! I have complicated head stuff cluster/hc mix . I went the indo route and it worked for awhile but stopped i also had a cluster cycle that "endedish" back in may2010 but was left with constant shadows evr since (i was living in florida then) and was diagnosedby a great doc there( dr steven wheeler) who diagnosed me with hc. I was put on indo then and helped some. When i moved back to ny i met with dr Newman and he respected Dr wheeler's diagnosis and i stayed on indo and it stoped working, and working with Newman to figure out the best line of defense has been challenging since i am a complicated case but I have ALL the faith in the world in Dr Newman and feel blessed to live in Nyc and have him here.
So any of u guy's live in nyc?
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Reply #12 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 6:30pm
 
Hi Anthony,

We traded messages a while back when I first joined and I made my first appt with Dr. Newman. You sent me a couple of PM's...not sure if you recall. Anyway, I live in NYC on the Upper West Side. I also used to live in Florida. Miami. You?

I really like Dr. Newman. Not sure about the indocin. On my second day now, and while I do feel better in the head...where I have a daily eye/neck/arm pain...it is not completely gone and I am suffering the same feeling I had while on verapamil. I feel like someone is sitting on my chest. Not sure about why that is, but don't like it. Also, while on my daily walk today about the third mile in I felt a little like I was going to pass out. I never feel that way. Meds??

Anyway, yes, I live in NYC. Around if you want to chat. Hope you are feeling better.

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Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 8:30pm
 
Tate, do you mind if I ask what dose you're on now? To the best of my knowledge, it will take the indocin a bit to build up in your system so don't write it off yet! As I mentioned, I found at least some relief from it when I was on it even though I definitely have clusters. "Some relief" isn't enough for it to be sustainable, but there's a chance it'll make some sort of difference. Of course, there's also a chance it won't.

Also, there is no reason I can think of that the indocin should have caused you to be woozy on your walk. It's way more likely verap would do that! There's certainly a possibility it's just the way you're reacting, but I don't know why that would be...
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Reply #14 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 9:06pm
 
Hey Zac,

I am currently taking 25mg 3x a day with zantac which I need since I really messed up my insides with prednisone the last few cycles.

I think I might have been feeling "woozy" Smiley due to the affects on my stomach...the indo, coupled with the onslaught of vitamins I have added over the past week...I added Batch's regimen and a few other things...I recently became a vegetarian and have had to take protein powder and all sorts of things I am not used to...but I did switch to a liquid form of calcium since it is especially hard on the gut and mine just cant take it. So, I think that since indo is known to affect the tummy, it just gave me the heartburn sort of heaviness kind of feeling...or it could have been completely unrelated. Who knows?!

What about you? What works for you? Does oxygen work for you?

Thanks for watching out for me! All advice and thoughts appreciated. Smiley

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Reply #15 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 10:01pm
 
Tate,

I started with 3x 25mg too and eventually went up to 3x 50mg. May I recommend you ask Dr. Newman about taking Protonix? I was supposed to be taking it with the Indocin to help protect my stomach and I was not nearly as judicious about it as I should have been. Towards the end of my Indocin run I found blood in my stool and had to stop the Indocin IMMEDIATELY following. Fortunately, my insides were ok but that was a scary few days waiting for scans and going to get a colonoscopy to make sure I didn't have an internal bleed. Between you having a hard time with the prednisone, the new liquid calcium that you say isn't so easy on the gut and the fact you're on the Indocin now I would call the office ASAP to ask about Protonix or something similar. Just a suggestion, though. (Also, forgive me if you've already discussed this with him yourself... just sounds like your stomach is handling a lot right now!)

Does Dr. Newman know you're on Batch's regimen, too? If not, make sure you tell him. My last appointment he specifically told me not to add it because I'm changing preventatives and he said it would be too difficult for him to know what's doing what. He obviously has no problem with it in principle, but I can imagine it can get confusing.

As for me, I'm complicated. I have found very few things that do much good. I had some success with verap over the summer but starting about 4 weeks ago now I went into a wicked high cycle (I'm chronic) despite still being on 720mg. I can't go any higher on that because my BP is getting wonky and I get ED from the extra high dose so I'm trying to cut down on the verap or cut it out entirely anyway... especially since it's not helping anymore. He put me on 3x 300mg Neurontin about three weeks ago (and kept the verap the same), but there's been no change. Tuesday he upped it to 3x 600mg and I'm waiting to see if it makes any difference. If not, I believe he said I can go up to 3600mg/day. (I'm not sure if that's 3x 1200 or something different.) If the Neurontin helps, he's going to start getting me off the verap. I'm not sure if his plan is to just lower the dose take me off entirely, though I do need to be on a BP medication one way or another because mine's on the high side. Up until now, O2 has done no good for me despite following all the tips on here. I'm hoping if I get on a better preventative it will be more effective? I'm not even sure if that's a thing, just grasping at straws....

Does immitrex work for you? Or other triptans?
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Reply #16 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 10:36pm
 
Hmmm....there was so much being covered as it was my first appt with him, but I did tell him about the vitamins I was taking and the dosages, as well as tell him how my gut had been affected by my prednisone OVERusage. He did not originally prescribe anything at all for me to take along side the indocin, I emailed after reading about how hard it is on the stomach and remembering something my other neuro had mentioned re the drug. Dr Newman then told me to take Zantac. I switched to the liquid calcium as the pill form (at 4 times daily) was way too harsh. I really need to see a gastro guy. Or gal. Smiley

Since I don't currently have the cluster headaches maybe I should just wait?? I would rather have my daily headache than make my insides worse...if it "works" for my daily headache I have to stay on it and continue taking some kind of stomach prevent, correct?

I am fearful I will be one of the ones that oxygen doesnt work for either. Years ago I had a tank and a regular mask and it was of no relief to me. I am hopeful that the new mask and a higher flow will be the trick, but I read about so many getting even partial relief with the old style and I got nuthin. I tried and tried...

Chronic? Ugh. I feel for you. When did this start? Sorry! You seem in good spirits. Good for you!!

Thanks again for all your help!

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Reply #17 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 10:43pm
 
Zac,

Oh, yes, imitrex does work in the injectible form, but I have as many as 8 headaches a day and just can't take that many shots... And then if I don't take the meds my headaches usually last around 3 hours... And then the imitrex ends up giving me wicked rebound headaches that I can't even describe... So, I end up being in constant pain. It becomes a situation where I cannot function at all, cannot leave my bedroom. I just pace around from icing myself to the hot shower to thinking I'm going to die or jump out the window. Depression sets in...sucks. Hoping the oxygen works! Smiley
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Reply #18 - Dec 4th, 2011 at 1:06pm
 
Zac,

Today is the last day at 3 x 25mg and then I am supposed to call Dr. Newman tomorrow and double for an additional 5 days if no relief. I am still experiencing the pain and wishing I could take the Tylenol 3 I normally take when things get really bad, but as you know I can't take anything on top of the indocin. Also, I am way bloated on this drug...just like prednisone...I know the T3 isnt good for my stomach either. I got the name of a gastro dr and will be calling tomorrow for an appt, as I think it is time to have that checked out.

I really don't want to double the dosage as I really don't think that indocin is going to work for this pain...while it is possible...I say possible because I think it is a long shot, that it will "work" for my clusters giving me the HC diagnosis, but I doubt it. I just think if the dr's rationale was that my year round pain was related to HC and it isn't working now...and the imitrex works for me...I have cluster headaches.

Dr. N had written on a paper that if the indocin worked this week for me then I could consider myself as having a diagnosis of hemacrania continua...I don't know how that could be possible when I am not in cycle and some people with other type headaches (icepick, etc) experience relief with the indocin but still carry the cluster headache diagnosis...am I making sense at all???

Anyway, the drug is way too harsh on my stomach and my head pain is a "known" that is painful, but I can deal with it, but messing up my insides further is an unknown that I really don't want.

I don't want to have to take any more daily meds if I don't have to...(I am on topamax.)

I will give the Dr a call...hear his thoughts.

Hope you are feeling good!

Enjoy your weekend!

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Reply #19 - Dec 4th, 2011 at 3:00pm
 
jwdbonds wrote on Nov 30th, 2011 at 1:26am:
Thank you.  I am in tears right now.  I need to help him. I am going to call Dr. Newman.  Has anyone tried a drug called methysigride?  I know it is no longer available in U.S., but was thinking of taking my husband to Canada and getting a script?

I tried methysigride many years ago. Somewhere around 1985. Didn't do anything but make my wife nervous. It is a form, very weak form, of LSD. AKA Sansert.
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