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i dont know if anyone will ever read this but i suffer with ch and have just found this site. i have it really bad with up to 6 attacks in a day . the only thing that makes any difference is 20MG IMIGRAN NASAL SPRAY! im telling you this stuff is amazing!!!! 5 mins and im bk to normal

now the down side.....no not side effects! the doctors hate giving it out cos its not cheap! without this drug life is not worth living for the weeks/months i have ch ....the max dose is 2 sprays per day so i try save that relief for work and sleep so i only suffer with the pain in my own time not work time!....

i have found this drug for sale on drfox.com its not cheap but i can not survive without it!!! if it cost everything i owned i would still pay it!!! no pills work for me and they only kick in after i am banging my head off the end of the bed sooooo please go and beg your doc for this drug . if one person manages to get this from the doc please send me a message to say thanks so i know i didnt waste my time writing this post!.........i promise you it is a wonder drug and doesnt mask the pain it solves it and helps dissrupt the clusters till they go away!!!

more people must know about this the price should never be a doctors first concern it makes me sick i suffer so badly with this illness i want to die and i have had it for many years on and off so please make that appointment!!!! and trust meeeee!!!! .......thank me later ., dont forget!!! Smiley

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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 8:18am
 
Many of us are fans and devotees of sumatriptan. Some of us use the tabs, although these are generally too slow. Some of us use the nasal spray and as you have discovered, it can be very effective. The rest of use an injectable form, like me. The imitrex tip at the left is aimed at this last group. I'm glad you are getting relief, but if this is all you are taking, then you are selling yourself short on managing the Beast. I would recommend you explore preventatives and O2. Coupled with 'trex, it is the best way to attack the pain. Blessings. lance
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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 1:35pm
 
thank you very much i am off to the docs tomorrow to see about o2 cant wait to give it a try . it seems the docs over here in london dont seem to know much about ch i really have to fight for help .....brain scan, eye test ,given up many foods and drinks b4 they told me what i had and now they dont seem to understand how important imigran is to the pain they just think im a silly bloke with a headache that wont stop moaning
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:02pm
 
Hi MrBen

I see you're in the UK like me. Have a look at the OuchUK site. They have a helpline you can call and they will be able to fill you in on the various medications available in the UK and what your doctor should give you, for examples the Imigran shots are the only licensed treatment for cluster headaches in the UK, so that's what they should give you as a minimum. They're really helpful nice people (all sufferers themselves) and will jelp you to get sorted x
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Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:16pm
 
Imitrex nasal spray comes in 10 mg and 20 mg dosages here in the US.  I have found that I can either take 2 20mg nasal sprays a day or 4 10 mg nasal sprays a day.  For me the 10mg works just as well as the 40mg so I go that route.  I understand very well about frequent hits  I used to get hit 8 times a day each lasting 1 1/2 hours long.  The bad thing to this is that the insurance companies like to regulate how much imitrex you can use during a month.  My dr was willing to write out a script for unlimited trex not to exceed 4 doses at 10mg a day.  The insurance company would only give me two small boxes of imitrex that did not come close to lasting a week much less a month.  Oxygen is a life saver check it out.
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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:57pm
 
cheers kitty i have found the site the doc has put me on everything over the years im off to beg for some o2 tomorrow its gota be worth a go.....there never used to be any info on the net when i was 20 but now there seems to be loads im in south london so u would think the docs would have a clue but some actually have to read up on it b4 i go for an appointment and try and pretend they know more than i do ! meh !! they couldnt cure a cold!!! lol x
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Reply #6 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:02pm
 
karla i didnt know they did it in 10ml nasal sprays and ur rite i do need more sprays than im allowed to take in 24 hours but i had such trouble getting them off the doc i dont wana rock the boat .....we have nhs over here so dont need to worry about insurance its the docs that wont give it out cos they dont hit there monthly targets if they give out 2 many meds !! they are private enterprise these days ruled by nhs guidelines sad but true god forbid they loose there yearly bonus !! lol
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Reply #7 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 4:09am
 
Have a chat to the Ouch people about getting a referral to a neurologist. Your GP should refer you anyway, and when it comes to these type of referrals you can actually choose to go anywhere in the country (although for most things you would tend to go to your nearest hospital), anyway as you're in London you should be able to get a referral to Queens Square which is literally the best place in the UK for dealing with CH with the most knowledgeable consultants. Someone on the Ouch site will be able to give you the exact details regarding how to go about getting a referral. As for limiting how much Imigran you can have, i don't think that GPs are actually allowed to refuse you the meds you need based on cost, again the Ouch peeps are fully clued up on this and will be able to give you all the facts etc to arm yourself with ready for when you next see your doctor x
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Reply #8 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 2:39pm
 
oh they dont tell you they wont give it u cos of the cost they arnt stupid they say that its not ment for regular use on a daily bases! lol.... just got bk from the doc they have refered me to a neurologist .....again and say they cant give me o2 as they cant prescribe it these days and also told me 100% o2 can make u blind! ......i have now got a prescription for a weeks worth of imigran 10ml nasal spray and if they work i can take 4 per day so thats a start untill a month later when i go see the neurologist when my clusters are already gone anyway !!! grrrrr x
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Reply #9 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 4:52pm
 
We have many Brits that have gotten a script for O2.  Hopefully one will be along shortly with some help for you.

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Reply #10 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 5:51pm
 
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also told me 100% o2 can make u blind!

That's f'd up, and borders on malpractice.
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Reply #11 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 6:13pm
 
is it the 100% stuff i need? they wont give it to me i did fight my corner and she rang another doc to check in front of me who said it can not be given by them it has to be from the neurologist ?!?! so probably wait a month for that appointment!! .....is it defo the 100% 02 i need or is it less than %100? .... cos her words were its a huge fire risk and can cause you to go blind! am i missing something here ?
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Reply #12 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 7:21pm
 
mrben1230 wrote on Mar 13th, 2012 at 6:13pm:
am i missing something here ?

Hi Mr Ben

No your not missing anything the GPs are ill informed.
It may be that in the UK only the Nuros can give out scripts for o2 but as far as going blind, well I should be getting around with a white cane after the length of time I have used o2.

The furfy about o2 being a fire risk is also a bit skewed; you cant actually get oxygen alone to burn, I've tried it but if you mix it with another flammable gas it will go up like the 4 th of July, it's a bit like trying to light a piece of wet wood it wont burn for zip but throw some petrol on it & away you go.

Hopefully someone from the UK can come in shortly & fill you in on a quicker way of getting the o2.

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Reply #13 - Mar 13th, 2012 at 8:10pm
 
Brew wrote on Mar 13th, 2012 at 5:51pm:
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also told me 100% o2 can make u blind!

That's f'd up, and borders on malpractice.


How old is this (loosely defined) doctor? Where trained?
In my opinion, this is malpractice and WAY beyond ...it's supreme ignorance, laziness, incompetence, illiteracy, unwillingness to learn or PROVIDE....and TOTALLY unacceptable. A GOOD doc knows what they don't know and is WILLING to learn...a BAD doc thinks they already know everything they need to know. RUN brother...run away from this troglodyte....she don't know shite and appears not to care. What else doesn't she know????

I've been using O2 since 1985...of the 8 or more physicians I have sought treatment from....NOT ONE denied an O2 script. It literally saved my sanity and possibly my life. Several didn't know of the particular therapy...but IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE LITERATURE...anyone can research and see that...as several did. There are resources here that describe and reference literature acceptable in ANY modern medical practice.

O2 is the LEAST expensive, least offensive to the body, most widely accepted treatment ever discovered for ch. It doesn't work for all...but should be one of the FIRST attempted!

Get thee to "ouch"...PLEASE...sorry if this is harsh...I am frustrated beyond belief...thought this kind of thinking was WAY in the past...not your fault at all...you don't need this nightmare on top of the nightmare ch already is....

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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 8:16am
 
I believe England has an air force? Or Navy pilots? What do your doctors think they breathe while flying? How many English pilots are flying blind, so to speak? Blessings. lance
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Reply #15 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:12pm
 
lol at all of the above i know it seems so silly but if ur told that by a doc u tend to belive it it was 100% o2 she said it about is that what you are all taking or is it 50% or 75% i really dont understand to much about why they wont give it to me the doc was actually quite nice and she did make lots of phone calls in front of me and i heard others telling her they can not give it to me on prescription including another doc and a chemist !! ........dont really know who i am ment to ask for o2 now as the doctor would be my first port of call maybe i will try the vet or the air force! who knows !!.....any one from the uk tell me how they got theres as it seems going to a neurologist again will take far to long to get an appointment just to be told go back to the doctors .......yawn !!! this is what happens when they privatise the doctors !!
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Reply #16 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
Start a new thread asking for O2 help from our Limey members.  Your IMIGRAN NASAL SPRAY!!!.....WONDER DRUG!!! ain't gonna get many views.

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Reply #17 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:28pm
 
Premature babies can lose their eyesight when given too much o2 in an incubator.  Maybe this is where they are getting this  crazy idea that we'll go blind from pure o2.
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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:46pm
 
I'd have been permanently blind years ago if I DIDN'T have O2 (e.g., pushing up daisies).
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239 view so far thanks pot head!......

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Reply #20 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:45pm
 
the docs dont know much but ive been on the case tonight it turns out the chemist dont have it anymore its all been made private by the government !! have to see neurologist who then tells the doctor they can prescribe it to me or not cos the doc can only give it to people with breathing problems so there hands are tied......its taken 10 phone calls to find that out . the doc cant even ring the neurologist up and ask him it all has to be done by email these days this country is fucked!!!!
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Reply #21 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:50pm
 
if we can go blind from o2 this is one very lucky 30 year old cos ive been pushing my luck since i was born ......there has probably been one case of it reported since time began !!
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Reply #22 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:45pm
 
Have you called the OUCH helpline yet?
Your doctor is telling you a load of bollocks.He can prescribe you O2.

This is from the DOH website;

4.3.4 Short burst oxygen
4.3.4.1 Short burst oxygen therapy (SBOT) refers to oxygen provided for intermittent
breathlessness in those patients assessed as not requiring long term (LTOT)
or ambulatory oxygen.
4.3.4.2 Traditionally, SBOT has been prescribed to relieve breathlessness where a
patient is at rest or following exercise. A clinician may order SBOT for
episodic breathlessness that has not been relieved by other treatments for
patients with severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), lung
disease and heart failure. A clinician may also order SBOT as symptomatic
relief – for example, as part of palliative care or for those patients suffering
from migraine or cluster headaches. A clinician will indicate on the Home Oxygen Order where short burst oxygen is required usually providing this
information as a specific flow rate with an indication of intermittent need.


And ask him to look in hin BNF (the Dr's prescribing bible) 4.7.4.3 where it says the only 2 treatments for cluster headache are Imigran injections and O2.

Who in London is your Dr. making an appointment with - Does he specialise in headache conditions?

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Reply #23 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:15pm
 
mrben1230 wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:41pm:
239 view so far thanks pot head!......


Figgered ya needed help.  I was right.

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Reply #24 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 8:41pm
 
rod im guna forward that message on to my doctor tomorrow thats wicked thanks for that!  it seems you have to fight for any help in this country . i would love to let them live just one day with the pain that we go thro it might stop them thinking about money and more about their DUTY OF CARE!!!
i spoke to the hospital today who said the doc CAN give it to me and when the nhs neurologist finally sees me all he will do is tell the doc to give it to me!!!  ....that could take months on the nhs and i need it yesterday!!...but in his words they are scared to prescribe it cos they dont understand ch and the 2 main things that do help  (o2 and imigran!) he understood and told me the only way i can beat this red tape is to pay to see a private neurologist for one session and get him to tell my doc to give it to me the downside is it will cost a lot of money that i dont have as im self employed and havent been able to do half of the work i should be due to ch!! think i might stick it on the credit card it seems that is the only way to get what i need. it makes me sick!!!where does the tax i have paid non stop since i started work at 16 end up ?!?! i hate this country its in a mess!!!!!why will the doctors not just take a risk and learn about it rater than pass the buck
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