Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
Clusterheadaches.com
 
Search box updated Dec 3, 2011... Search ch.com with Google!
  HomeHelpSearchLoginRegisterEvent CalendarBirthday List  
 





Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
first attack (Read 1296 times)
DDavid
CH.com Newbie
*
Offline


I Love CH.com!


Posts: 3
first attack
Apr 17th, 2012 at 11:21pm
 
My wife was recently diagnosed with clusters after having her first attack this past January.  She's had  moderate health all her life, but after a very stressful death in the family, she had her first attack 3 days later. 

I've read several things from the book store and the web and we are getting her as much help as we can, but I'm wondering if something majorly stressful could trigger the onset of the clusters or is this purely coincidental?
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Bob Johnson
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


"Only the educated are
free." -Epictetus


Posts: 5965
Kennett Square, PA (USA)
Gender: male
Re: first attack
Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 6:37am
 
Stress is not recognized as a causal agent in Cluster. Present understanding is that it arises from a malfunction in the hypothalamus, tiggering a cascade of neurological activity which gives Cluster its distinctive symptoms.

Because the level of knowledge/research is low there are still many major questions yet to be resolved. But, we do have a good body of effective treatments for a what we accept as a long lived, chronic disorder (broadly recogized as covering 20s to 70s).

If at all possible, we urge working with a headache specialist for the general knowledge level among many docs, even neurologists, is not encouraging.
-----
LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Search the OUCH site (button on left) for a list of recommended M.D.s.


2. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

3.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register On-line screen to find a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

6. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
==========
Suggest:
MANAGEMENT OF HEADACHE AND HEADACHE MEDICATIONS, 2nd ed. Lawrence D. Robbins, M.D.; pub. by Springer. $50 at Amazon.Com.  It covers all types of headache and is primarily focused on medications. While the two chapters on CH total 42-pages, the actual relevant material is longer because of multiple references to material in chapters on migraine, reflecting the overlap in drugs used to treat. I'd suggest reading the chapters on migraine for three reasons: he makes references to CH & medications which are not in the index; there are "clinical pearls" about how to approach the treatment of headache; and, you gain better perspective on the nature of headache, in general, and the complexities of treatment (which need to be considered when we create expectations about what is possible). Finally, women will appreciate & benefit from his running information on hormones/menstrual cycles as they affect headache. Chapter on headache following head trauma, also. Obviously, I'm impressed with Robbins' work (even if the book needs the touch of a good editor!) (Somewhat longer review/content statement at 3/22/00, "Good book....")



HEADACHE HELP, Revised edition, 2000; Lawrence Robbins, M.D., Houghton Mifflin, $15. Written for a nonprofessional audience, it contains almost all the material in the preceding volume but it's much easier reading. Highly recommended.
======



Cluster headache.
From: Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases)
[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
===
See the PDF file, below, for the most current list of treatments & evaluations. Any doc should be working from this list in treating and it's a good tool to guide discussions with the doc.
=====
Explore the buttons, left, starting with the OUCH site.
===
If you decide to stay around:
Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you.

Cluster Headache Help and Support › Getting to Know Ya › Newbies, Help us...help you

You can add your location by editing your profile. CP Member --> profile
=====
If you read this site regularly, you'll se the types of information we can offer. Helps to have some specific questions/concerns to guide our responses.



Back to top
« Last Edit: Apr 18th, 2012 at 6:39am by Bob Johnson »  
Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register (96 KB | 16 )

Bob Johnson
 
IP Logged
 
wimsey1
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


I Love CH.com!


Posts: 2457
MA
Gender: male
Re: first attack
Reply #2 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 8:23am
 
Who diagnosed your wife and what treatment plan was she given? There are ways to manage this thing although there is no cure. They can just up and go away; but they're more likely to ramp up frequency and intensity. So...it isn't something to ignore but rather something to attack vigorously. Let us know what she's doing to prevent attacks, and to abort attacks. God bless. lance
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Guiseppi
CH.com Moderator
CH.com Alumnus
*****
Offline


San Diego to Florida 05-16-2011


Posts: 12063
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA
Gender: male
Re: first attack
Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 9:14am
 
What they said! Wink

Try and get a referral to a headache specialist neurologist. It's your best shot at an accurate diagnosis and an effective treatment plan. If it is CH, it never goes away and as Lance mentioned, tends to ramp UP in intensity as the years progress. Do your homework NOW, when she's not in crisis mode and getting slammed 2-6 times a day. It's legwork and research that will really pay off in the long run. Wishing you both speed on the journey.

Joe
Back to top
  

"Somebody had to say it" is usually a piss poor excuse to be mean.
 
IP Logged
 
Lenny
CH.com Alumnus
***
Offline


I love YaBB 1G - SP1!


Posts: 642
Los Angeles,CA
Gender: male
Re: first attack
Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 10:50am
 
David...you got some very good advice from all of the above...first of all,i am very sorry for your loss...to answer your question in regards of stress...if anything,stress has never  been a trigger "for-me"...if anything,the more stressed out i am the least amount of attacks i get per day...wishing you and yours nothing but the best.....Lenny
Back to top
  

yes a newbie,unfortunately not to the beast!!!Chronic - Clusterhead
 
IP Logged
 
japanzaman
CH.com Veteran
***
Offline


I Love CH.com!


Posts: 210
Fukuoka, JAPAN
Gender: male
Re: first attack
Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:59am
 
I find that clusters tend to give me stress, but not the other way around! Tongue
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
DDavid
CH.com Newbie
*
Offline


I Love CH.com!


Posts: 3
Re: first attack
Reply #6 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 3:38pm
 
Her head pains have pretty much tapered off for now and she hasn't had an attack in about 10 days which is good, but we are still following thru with the Dr to see what else can be done for maintenance while she's not doubled over and crying from the pain

thanks guys
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print

DISCLAIMER: All information contained on this web site is for informational purposes only.  It is in no way intended to be used as a replacement for professional medical treatment.   clusterheadaches.com makes no claims as to the scientific/clinical validity of the information on this site OR to that of the information linked to from this site.  All information taken from the internet should be discussed with a medical professional!