pattik wrote on Nov 27^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:



Lol, Patti are you episodic or chronic?

elliott wrote on Nov 27^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

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Neither, since I apparently only have migraine or a misdiagnosis.

Zeitgeist wrote on Nov 27^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

My point was that there are seemingly no volunteers to help further this cause.

Brew wrote on Nov 27^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:


No one wanting to risk life, no one wanting to stop watching porn or jerking off - what's the difference!

elliott - Isn't there some more viable way to experiment?

There have definitely been people saying that they do not masturbate and still get clusters bad.  On both this site and Clusterbusters.  The biggest question I have is- Why are you pressing on with this while completely ignoring these responses?

I myself have definitely gone much much longer than 5 days without masturbating and had absoloutly no increase or decrease in clusters. 

Clusters come and go.  If you didn't masturbate for a full year and had them go away, this thread might make sense...And I doubt anyone is going to take this seriously until a much much longer "testing period" happens for you.  You can keep arguing with people about why you are right, with absoloutely no evidence to back it up, or you could do your test and report back after a much longer amount of time.  Your first post on this was less than 2 weeks ago.  If you ask long time sufferers if they have amounts of time where things got better for some reason for different amounts of time the answer is almost always yes.  You can find all sorts of people who claim they figured out their cluster cure by mangosteen, jumping jacks, sex, masturbation, the list goes on and on.  Eventually it seems like 90% of those folks come back and say "I guess I was just having a lucky month/week/day."

All questions are worth asking, but I would say unless you have some sort of actual concrete evidence of some sort of long term change happening, it's probably not doing much good to just beat a subject to death.  (no pun intended)

Your idea that what happens in your brain when you watch porn is that dopamine is released is true, but very simplistic and not complete.   A hell of a lot more happens in your brain than just this one hormone being increased.  One big hole in the "too much dopamine" idea is that routinely people have found that cocaine IS effective for many peoples clusters.  Talk about dopamine overload.  LSD boosts dopamine too, and many people have found it to get rid of clusters for months at a time. 

Another thing to do research on--there is actually a condition called "dopamine syndrome"  It has nothing to do with masturbation or cluster headaches.

-Ricardo

ELLIOTT...STOP USING THIS LANGUAGE...WOMEN & CHILDREN READ THESE POSTS..HAVE RESPECT FOR OTHERS AT LEAST.

BobDeb wrote on Dec 4^th, 2012 at 11:55am:



Agreed!  Moderator Alert!

-Gregg in Las Vegas

I'm sorry, but unless Elliott is attacking another member, I cannot censor him due to vulgar language.

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Thank you and please try to remember to be respectful to others.

-Melissa

I'm not going to decide what words people can and can't use.  If someone wants to use vulgar language... that's on them.  Most people try to be respectful to the rest of the community... some don't care.

If you don't like the way someone is typing, use the "ignore" button.  If you don't want to do that, keep in mind the type of person you are dealing with when you interact with them and don't be surprised when they drop an "F" bomb.

If that type of language is directed towards someone, that is a completely different story.

So anyway...

UPDATE:  After my  "relapse" last week, I've gone on a steady diet of doing it every day (binging, is what they call it in the reboot community).  Every day except Sunday.  The shadows have been fleeting, but noticeable, whereas before I started binging they were gone completely. 

Sunday morning, I want to say, someone I contacted on a Cluster Headache Support Page on Facebook responded to my message.  He said it made sense and would be well on his way to undertake the task.  He is episodic and is in the middle of a cycle right now.  Will contact him today and see what's up with that.

jon019 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2012 at 12:04am:

Yer killin me.

          Potter