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Jan 24th, 2013 at 8:10pm
 
Hi All- I'm glad I was able to find this site and read more about CH. I have tentatively been diagnosed with them and have been using Sumatriptan nasal spray, which knocks the pain down a notch but they are still quite painful.  I am 37 years old and a first time sufferer; I've been having the headaches for about 2 weeks.  It's a drag but at least I'm not having an aneurysm.  My main triggers appear to be alcohol (easy to solve) and running (I am not giving it up). Any suggestions on helping with the running?  It happened in both mid-20s and mid-70s weather, so it's not just body temperature.

I have a referral to a neurologist, so I should have a less tentative diagnosis soon.

Wish everyone here lots of pain-free days.
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Reply #1 - Jan 24th, 2013 at 8:52pm
 
Welcome to the board Cinnabar. Glad to hear you have a referral to a specialist. If you have the option, shoot for a headache specialist neuro. CH isd an orphan disorder, very few neuros have the background and experience necassary to effectively treat it. You'll find by reading these boards, you'll soon know more then most neuros, what follows is your first reading assignment!!!

I’ve had CH for 36years, they haven’t killed me yet! You need an organized approach to managing them so they don’t manage your life. I use a 3 pronged approach, many use a similar approach:

1: A good prevent med. A med I take daily, while on cycle, to reduce the number and intensity of my attacks. I use lithium, it blocks 60-70% of my attack. Verapamil is the most common first line prevent, topomax also has a loyal following. Some have to combine lithium and verapamil together to get relief.

2: A transitional med. Most prevents will take up to 2 weeks to become effective. I go on a prednisone taper, from 80 mg to zero over a two week period to give me a break while my prevent builds up. Prednisone will provide up to 100% relief for many CH’ers but is harsh on the system and should only be used for short periods of time.

3: An abortive therapy, the attack starts, now what? Oxygen should be your first line abortive. Breathing pure 02 will abort an attack for me in less then 10 minutes, that’s completely pain free. Read this link as it must be used correctly or it will not work

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This link will show you how to get set up with welding oxygen:

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Imitrex nasal spray and injectables are very effective abortives. You apparentkly have the nasal spray, I've never tried it but many swear by them. I use the injectables, they’re expensive, and I rarely use them, mostly just when I get caught away from the oxygen. The pill form generally works too slow to be effective for CH’ers.

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It’s a vitamin/mineral/fish oil supplement, all over the counter stuff, that’s providing a lot of relief for people who have tried it, it’s healthy for you even without CH!

For now, get some energy drinks. Rock Star, Monster, any containing the combo of caffeine and taurine, chug it down as fast as you can when you feel an attack starting. Many can abort or at least really reduce an attack using these.

Finally, visit our sister board for “alternative” treatment methods outside of mainstream medicine. As you’ll see from all the success stories on this board, there is something to it.

clusterbusters.com

Excercise is a funny one. For some, like me, a good hard run will act as an abortive. For others, like you, it acts as a trigger! Get on that vitamin regimen I mentioned earlier. It's good for you even without CH, and may make all the other stuff unnecassary.


Read everything you can on this board, if you are a CH’er, knowledge is your best ally. We’ll help you all we can.

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Reply #2 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:32am
 
First, where are you?
Please tell us where you live. Follow the next line to a message which explains why knowing your location and your medical history will help us to help you.

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Since you have not yet had a good diagnostic workup, suggest you not start trying this and that treatment. Gets in the way of doing the diagnosis.

The nasal spray is not the best for Cluster and technique for using is important--so check directions and play with your technique.

Running, or any activity which raises body temp, can be a trigger for attacks. Until you are on some effective meds which can reduce/prevent attacks, you'll have to make a choice of running/pain.

If you have the option, working with a headache specialist is the best route. So many others docs have little effective training/experience in treating complex heacache disorders that many folks have wandered around for years until getting good care. So,

LOCATING HEADACHE SPECIALIST

1. Yellow Pages phone book: look for "Headache Clinics" in the M.D. section and look under "neurologist" where some docs will list speciality areas of practice.

2.  Call your hospital/medical center. They often have an office to assist in finding a physician. You may have to ask for the social worker/patient advocate.

3. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register On-line screen to find a physician.

4. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register Look for "Physician Finder" search box. They will send a list of M.D.s for your state.I suggest using this source for several reasons: first, we have read several messages from people who, even seeing neurologists, are unhappy with the quality of care and ATTITUDES they have encountered; second, the clinical director of the Jefferson (Philadelphia) Headache Clinic said, in late 1999, that upwards of 40%+ of U.S. doctors have poor training in treating headache and/or hold attitudes about headache ("hysterical female disorder") which block them from sympathetic and effective work with the patient; third, it's necessary to find a doctor who has experience, skill, and a set of attitudes which give hope of success. This is the best method I know of to find such a physician.

5. Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register NEW certification program for "Headache Medicine" by the United Council for Neurologic Subspecialties, an independent, non-profit, professional medical organization.
        Since this is a new program, the initial listing is limited and so it should be checked each time you have an interest in locating a headache doctor.
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Do some fast reading on Cluster.
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Cluster headache.
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[Easy to read; one of the better overview articles I've seen. Suggest printing the full length article--link, line above--if you are serious about keeping a good medical library on the subject.]

Leroux E, Ducros A.

ABSTRACT: Cluster headache (CH) is a primary headache disease characterized by recurrent short-lasting attacks (15 to 180 minutes) of excruciating unilateral periorbital pain accompanied by ipsilateral autonomic signs (lacrimation, nasal congestion, ptosis, miosis, lid edema, redness of the eye). It affects young adults, predominantly males. Prevalence is estimated at 0.5-1.0/1,000. CH has a circannual and circadian periodicity, attacks being clustered (hence the name) in bouts that can occur during specific months of the year. ALCOHOL IS THE ONLY DIETARY TRIGGER OF CH, STRONG ODORS (MAINLY SOLVENTS AND CIGARETTE SMOKE) AND NAPPING MAY ALSO TRIGGER CH ATTACKS. During bouts, attacks may happen at precise hours, especially during the night. During the attacks, patients tend to be restless. CH may be episodic or chronic, depending on the presence of remission periods. CH IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRIGEMINOVASCULAR ACTIVATION AND NEUROENDOCRINE AND VEGETATIVE DISTURBANCES, HOWEVER, THE PRECISE CAUSATIVE MECHANISMS REMAIN UNKNOWN. Involvement of the hypothalamus (a structure regulating endocrine function and sleep-wake rhythms) has been confirmed, explaining, at least in part, the cyclic aspects of CH. The disease is familial in about 10% of cases. Genetic factors play a role in CH susceptibility, and a causative role has been suggested for the hypocretin receptor gene. Diagnosis is clinical. Differential diagnoses include other primary headache diseases such as migraine, paroxysmal hemicrania and SUNCT syndrome. At present, there is no curative treatment. There are efficient treatments to shorten the painful attacks (acute treatments) and to reduce the number of daily attacks (prophylactic treatments). Acute treatment is based on subcutaneous administration of sumatriptan and high-flow oxygen. Verapamil, lithium, methysergide, prednisone, greater occipital nerve blocks and topiramate may be used for prophylaxis. In refractory cases, deep-brain stimulation of the hypothalamus and greater occipital nerve stimulators have been tried in experimental settings.THE DISEASE COURSE OVER A LIFETIME IS UNPREDICTABLE. Some patients have only one period of attacks, while in others the disease evolves from episodic to chronic form.

PMID: 18651939 [PubMed]
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Three sites which are worth your attention: medical literature, films, plus the expected information
about CH.

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  Full of articles, blogs, book: written by one of the best headache docs in the Chicago area.
  Worth exploring. The latest book is in e-book edition, $10; comprehensive and worth buying for
  a careful read.
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While this list (below) of meds is premature now, print and file. These are the main types treatments and any doc who is not working from this list is suspect, in my judgment. So it can be a tool to discuss options after you find a doc.
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Reply #3 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:42am
 
Thanks so much to both of you.  We'll see how things go with the neurologist, but I'll check into a headache specialist.

Good suggestions on mixing up my technique for the nasal spray.  Hadn't really thought about that.

In terms of preventative medicine, I was told that many of them are blood pressure medications.  As I tend on the low side of blood pressure, my regular doctor was hesitant about prescribing any of them. 

I'd really like to avoid caffeine as I don't drink it now, but I guess a caffeine addiction is much less to deal with than these headaches.

Anyway, I'll definitely check out the links soon.  I live in El Paso, Texas by the way (northern Chihuahuan Desert).
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